The reason the dems have a difficult time winning any debate or argument, you have people

[EV_Ares]

like Johnathon Alter & Howard Kurtz who are not right saying unfair to blame Palin. The other MSM & dems are talking about it is the left & right. All one has to do is look at those who have been murdered for political reasons in this country, look at where the rhetoric is coming from referencing or pushing violence. It is not equal among left & right. Beck is not left, Maulkin is not left, Limbaugh is not left, palin is not left, Hannity is not left, Fox is not left so it is quite obvious where the noise is coming from.

[AspenRose]

1. It is frustrating

[spanone]

2. i heard howard fineman on NPR saying 'i'm not ready to give palin a pass' go howard

[TheKentuckian]

3. Hence we need to flush all those turds and stop pretending they aren't part of the establishment

[SoCalDem]

4. Say nothing or no comment, but never appease by claiming blame as well

when there is none to be claimed:grr:

[EV_Ares]

5. I like that & so appropriate in this case because that is what the dems are

letting happen. The left does it too. BS. Sure those on the left may go over the top sometimes but you don't hear the hate, the violent talk that comes especially from RW radio 7 fox commentators.

Take a look at those political figures who have been murdered & you won't find any who were murdered by left wing extremists or dems.

[Zoeisright]

6. If people used logical reasoning, the left would win every debate.

Unfortunately, too many stupid people dismiss facts and think that beliefs are equal to facts.

[OHdem10]

7. The real resson Democrats loose is they are fighting about

one thing while the GOP is after bigger fish and on
an entirely different subject.

Here we are still trying to assign blame. Even the more
sophiticated Republicans in the country know who is to
blame.

Here is the problem with the present fight.

We keep yipping over the Shooter.

The Republicans are fighting tooth and nail along with
Fox to maintain their ability to use what some call hate
speech . This is their concern. This is the only reason
they have taken the position that the guy is deranged and
not attached to GOP.

When the fight is over--GOP wins because they continue
on their same path.

Not one person is arguing against stopping the speech.
Just fighting over the guy and who he is . Democrats
lose because they never see the real battle.

[EV_Ares]

8. You are so right. The dems let the media and the right set the debate. Was the

shooting politically motivated they ask. Next, they talk about if anything about palin's website had anything to actually do with the shooting along with the rhetoric from right-wing radio or talk radio. What the hell else do you have to know? All one has to do is look at history & the answer is there.