Morning Joe Made An Amazing Point This Morning

[KingOfLostSouls]

on his show, joey scars made a point I don't think he meant to make. he was discussing the decade of rage.


he was listing all the people who were asssassinated politically


martin luther king jr

malcolm x

bobby kennedy

john f. kennedy



the rights been assassinating liberals for decades now.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Yes they have

Joey needs to face it. The right owns this one.

[freshwest]

8. Thanks for bringing that graphic to those who didn't know.

The John Birch Society and KKK were calling for his death before it happened.

The Koch family who founded the John Birch Society funded the Tea Party.

They won't change their tactics, which have effectively suppressed and traumatized the world for generations.

Domestic terrorism in the USA has the same face, hidden under new masks and under new brands.

[Trey9007]

39. Wow... If what you say is true......

I would love to see Maddow do a piece on this connection.

[molly77]

44. Reagan was the only republican who had an attempt made on his

life. George bush would have been president if the plan had worked.

[elehhhhna]

58. and, like the Bin Ladens, the Hinckley's were good friends of the Bush family.

coincidence?

[csziggy]

69. Gerald Ford had two attempts on his life

One, by a Manson follower, the other was also a woman. I always thought it was odd that few women have attempted assassinations, and that two women tried to kill the same President.

Ford faced two assassination attempts during his presidency, occurring within three weeks of each other: while in Sacramento, California on September 5, 1975, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme, a follower of Charles Manson, pointed a Colt .45-caliber handgun at Ford.<117> As Fromme pulled the trigger, Larry Buendorf,<118> a Secret Service agent, grabbed the gun and managed to insert the webbing of his thumb under the hammer, preventing the gun from firing. It was later found that, although the semi-automatic pistol had four cartridges in the magazine, the slide had not been pulled to place a round in the firing chamber, making it impossible for the gun to fire. Fromme was taken into custody; she was later convicted of attempted assassination of the President and was sentenced to life in prison, but was paroled on August 14, 2009.<119>

In reaction to this attempt, the Secret Service began keeping Ford at a more secure distance from anonymous crowds, a strategy that may have saved his life seventeen days later: as he left the St. Francis Hotel in downtown San Francisco, Sara Jane Moore, standing in a crowd of onlookers across the street, pointed her .38-caliber revolver at him.<120> Just before she fired, former Marine Oliver Sipple grabbed at the gun and deflected her shot; the bullet struck a wall about six inches above and to the right of Ford's head, then ricocheted and hit a taxi driver, who was marginally wounded. Moore was later sentenced to life in prison. She was paroled from prison on December 31, 2007, having served 32 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford#Assassination_attempts

[rateyes]

78. And, Gerald Ford, and George Wallace.

[BrklynLiberal]

87. hmmmm Makes one wonder who was REALLY behind the attempt...

:shrug:

[66 dmhlt]

89. Don't forget the last time a prominent Republican was shot ...

Dick Cheney was doing the shooting.

[freshwest]

57. What I say is true only in the context of a politically active teenager in those days.

IDK what their OFFICIAL position was. But I knew what their followers were spewing.

People were more plain speaking back then and they'd tell you in your face. JFK was labeled a traitor deserving of death, just as FDR was. My middle school had different political groups, including the Young Americans for Freedom. For my two cents to get the feeling of these people, think of Niedermeyer in the movie Animal House.

Here is some of what I remembered and stumbled on while looking for anything to verify the general atmosphere:

'YAF faced opposition from groups like the American Nazi Party because of the presence of Jews in the organization and its close relationship with Marvin Liebman. Most members also kept their distance from segregationists such as George Wallace and conspiracy theorists such as the John Birch Society.

However, YAF did honor staunch segregationist and Senator from South Carolina Strom Thurmond with its Freedom Award in 1962.<4> Some of its members were also behind the 'Welcome Mr. Kennedy to Dallas' ad placed in the Dallas Morning News (coincidentally on the morning of JFK's assassination), which implied Kennedy was Communist and accused him of ignoring the constitution. <5>'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Americans_for_Freedom

Note the part or that reference that says 'Most members also kept their distance...' The ones I talked to didn't keep their distance in our arguments at school. I won't claim that they had anything to do with it; the RW at this point will claim they had nothing to do with the Gifford attempt. We've got threads here on DU that explain connections better than I ever could.

At that time, the KKK, John Birch Society and Nazis had their phone numbers in the white pages in my city. You could call them up to hear their recorded views. Generally ranting about Jews, blacks, liberals, homosexuals, communists, etc.

If you stayed on the line, you could talk to them personally. I know, a friend of mine liked to do prank calls. She called them up late one night and teased them on my speaker phone. She stayed on the line and woke up some character who answered as 'Storm-trooper Greg.' She told him we were with the ADL and he blew a gasket.

They were also on public access radio call-in shows. I called and pranked the guy on the air. Later a crowd of protesters got into the lobby of the radio station and that was the end of that.

These views weren't mainstream, they were fringe. If people had them, they didn't say it on public venues, they'd be shunned. They certainly weren't on cable 'news' network and 24/7 on talk radio and there was no internet. No, there really wasn't.

Back then, we may have thought we having fun with these people. But that was in the days following the passage of the voting rights act, the creation of the EEOC and other liberal ideals were riding high and we thought the nation would never go backwards again.

Of that, we've been proven wrong. I'm amazed that young people are falling for this.

Maddow could easily find the connection between the John Birch Society and the Tea Party, even the Ron Paul people. A couple of years I did my research by listening to a lot of internet radio websites, especially those about conspiracies. Really, it seemed that the Bush Reich was unstoppable, nothing affected them.

I heard the spokesperson for the John Birch Society on the Alex Jones Show at least once. My ears pricked up at this voice from the past. And now that we know who began the John Birch Society, the Koch family who funded the Tea Party, we've come full circle. The code words took the place of the direct kind of talk I mentioned, but the meanings were the same.

Will anyone on MSM like Maddow be permitted to really speak out against the Koch family and the Birchers, or will she have to sacrifice going after the big players in order to stay on the air and cover lesser issues? IDK.

[Doctor_J]

59. That poster was on display in Dallas on Nov 21, 1963

righties are murderous sociopaths

[Archae]

2. Except three of the people on that list were not killed by "the right."

JFK was killed by a guy so far-left even Russia didn't like him.

Bobby Kennedy was killed by a guy who thought he was too pro-Israel and too anti-Arab.

Malcolm X was killed by a radical Muslim.

(And spare me the wild conspiracy tales.)

[DainBramaged]

6. Who on the Right has been assassinated over the same time frame?

the sound of crickets

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. The leader if the American Nazi Party at the time, plus

George Wallace got shot but not killed. That's about it I think.

[Archae]

14. Don't forget General Walker.

The far-right Bircher former General who Oswald took a shot at and missed.

[rateyes]

76. There were assassination attempts on Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford, too.

[RZM]

11. That's not the point of the OP

The point is to show that these figures were killed by the right, which in the case of three of them, is demonstrably false.

Unless of course you believe the conspiracies, in which case there's not much point in arguing.

[DainBramaged]

13. When those of little physical strength, the Limbaugh's, Kristols, Hannity's

Can inflame their audience to unspeakable acts, I'd call that relevant......

[RZM]

22. LOL, Bill Kristol?

Are you serious? I wonder how many people who aren't political nerds have even heard of him.

[DainBramaged]

28. His thin lips are all over FAUX every week

Sarah Palin's real father.....

[RZM]

29. I'm aware of that

Special Report is very much 'inside baseball,' however. I don't think it appeals much to people who aren't very interested in following politics. He's not Hannity or Limbaugh, who offer a much broader worldview-based appeal and are far angrier and more bombastic. Kristol's a political guy on the right and not much more than that.

[sabrina 1]

36. Wow! 'not much more than that'?

He's a member of the neo-con PNAC which has caused so much damage to this and other countries, I would hardly call it 'not much'. Unless a million dead people and more to come, is 'not much'.

He's not Hannity or Limbaugh, who offer a much broader worldview-based appeal and are far angrier and more bombastic.

I admit, I laughed out loud when I read that. I don't think it even needs to be commented on :rofl:

[RZM]

40. Why woulnd't it need to be commented on?

If you want to connect PNAC to the Tuscon shooting, then you should do so and we can evaluate your argument on its merits, but I'll bet even less people have heard of PNAC than have heard of Bill Kristol. My point is that he's not a Hannity or Limbaugh, but rather an 'inside politics' guy. He doesn't do what they do at all -- all three are on the right, of course, but Kristol is much different type of commentator.

[grahamhgreen]

48. Conspiracy theories: "there are WMD's in Iraq"; "magic bullet"; "war on terror".

[Still a Democrat]

77. Reagan was shot, Ford shot at

They weren't killed, but the idea only leaders on the left are attacked isn't accurate.

[Ken Burch]

9. I'll spare you "the wild conspiracy tales"...let's talk bullet trajectory

Every bullet that hit Bobby Kennedy was fired from BEHIND him and from below(according to the autopsy report by Dr. Noguchi, the Los Angeles County coroner). The bullet that hit Bobby in the head was fired from point blank range(this was proven by the presense of powder burns around the wound).

Sirhan Sirhan was in front of Bobby Kennedy and his gun was at least three feet away.

Thane Cesar, a rent-a-cop and George Wallace supporter, was right behind Bobby and to his right.

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Is there a REASON you believe the official versions of these killings, when the investigations that produced them were all led by right-of-center people who had everything to gain from these men being killed?

[BlueJac]

20. Yep

[MessiahRp]

66. +1

Great point. There are blatant falsehoods about the Oswald claims and the James Earl Ray claims as well that make it clear that in all three cases, the Government was covering up for the real killers and all three were serious threats to the right and had right wingers plotting against them.

Rp

[keepCAblue]

75. Nixon/Poppy Bush connection is very telling. Were it not for RFK's assassination...

...Nixon would never have been elected, and Nixon knew that.

[bongbong]

80. another factoid

It was physically impossible for Oswald to have killed JFK.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-belzer/defaming-history-or-who-d_b_60188.html

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[slackmaster]

16. So was Gerald Ford, both non-fatally

Leftists can't shoot straight.

[Gormy Cuss]

32. By someone who wanted to date Jodie Foster.

That's hardly a political motive.

[Ken Burch]

90. There was also this, though:

John Hinckley's parents were Bush supporters.

[Horse with no Name]

18. Easy when you brand the truth as wild conspiracy tales

:eyes:

[RZM]

41. I think the opposite is done a lot more often n/t

[eowyn_of_rohan]

19. Why is the truth dismissed as conspiracy theory

while the cover-ups and lies are accepted as truth?

[provis99]

27. JFK was killed by a far-right CIA operative, Oswald.

Bobby Kennedy was killed by a right-wing Arab Nationalist
Malcolm X was killed by three CIA employees.
your facts are wrong.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

33. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

lol

[truebrit71]

34. Your first point is completely off the mark IMO...

..by at least a couple of million miles..

[chowhound]

37. (And spare me the wild conspiracy tales.)

that's right spare us cause there never are conspiracies. everything is always as our trusty government says it is. problem solved just go back to sleep .

[JDPriestly]

42. There is a huge question about Oswald's politics. That is in dispute.

Sirhan-Sirhan was anti-Israel -- which especially then was a part of the anti-semitic right-wing rhetoric. He was not a leftist peacenik.

I would not view Malcolm X as particularly left-wing. Neither radical Muslims nor radical Christians are left-wing.

Face it. People on the American left are not radical about much of anything other than peace and non-violence.

The American left is about Martin Luther King, Ghandi and their legacies. We just are not a radical movement.

There is a group of people who claim to be Democrats but are not really a part of the Democratic movement. They have some strange leader who, I believe, is in jail on tax charges. They turn up at meetings and activities of the local Democratic Club every once in a while. But they are not part of the American left or the Democratic Party or movement because the left defines itself as non-radical.

That is the problem with the right. They have incorporated radical right-wingers into the Republican Party. And those radicals have become so loud and so powerful that the traditional Republicans are afraid of them.

Crazy radicals on the left get put in their place pretty quickly. Crazy radicals on the right are taking over the traditionally conservative movement.

And by the way, I doubt that Loughner was actually a part of the crazy radicals on the right that I am talking about. He was way beyond that -- probably schizophrenic and living in a totally different world than we do. It's just that the violent rhetoric that his insanity could grasp was on the right. If it exists on the left, it is not given any airtime by anyone, left or right.

[molly77]

46. Conspiracy is where two or more get together to commit a crime.

If you look at the condition our country is in, it does not mean you are a conspiracy theorist to suspect an underlying plan. It means that you are a realist.

Waay to many unusual and unexplained deaths for progressive leaders and too few conservatives to not think other wise. Read foreign newspapers. The whole world thinks there is a conspiracy going on in the US.

[girl gone mad]

54. Oswald a leftist?

Yeah, right. That's why the CIA spent decades lying about their involvement with him.

[Number23]

55. Interesting points. And Malcolm X was not a liberal. He was a black separatist

who for many years believed that blacks had been so oppressed and mistreated by whites that they had the right to violence as retribution.

He eventually changed this opinion but not until relatively soon before his murder.

[Wednesdays]

72. "JFK was killed by a guy so far-left even Russia didn't like him."

But, for some reason, was quite cozy with anti-Castro and CIA folks.

Indeed, the media's blurring of left-right lines regarding Laughner is eerily reminiscent of that of Lee Harvey Oswald. Let's not become patsies for the RW noise machine, shall we?

[Taverner]

86. There are a lot of wild goose chases in the whole JFK murder

He was cozy with anti-Castro folks, but was he cozy with them because he wanted to infiltrate them? Or did he want to kill JFK so bad that he didn't care who did it? Or was he a spy (for either the US, USSR or Cuba)?

I apply Occam's razor to this and the answer is Oswald acted alone. However the razor isn't always right. Dr. Richard Kimble killed his wife, if you apply the razor to it - yet we know now he was innocent.

So let's say I think Oswald was the most probable killer, but most probable doesn't always point to the truth.

[AnneD]

79. There are plenty of folks......

that think JFK was not killed by a lone assassin. The FRW (far right wing) has always had more motive-even the Mafia, who by the way would not have minded waxing BK (though there has never been any proof of mob involvement like JFK). BK's pro Israel probably protected him a bit as far as the mob was concerned.

Malcom X and MLK came to the same POV but from different starting points. Sadly, the only way some can keep their power is by fomenting fear and hatred.

[Taverner]

81. Owsald was a strange duck indeed

In all likelihood, he was JFKs killer. Hard to say if he was RW, LW, Communist or a lone nut

The problem with the JFK killing has been too much information, giving ways to wild goose chases. Any sane person would discount the Warren Report, but occams razor points to Oswald

[benld74]

3. yup yup yup

[Supersedeas]

4. Ok City, the Anthrax attacks, the assassination of doctors

[aquart]

5. You want fun, make a list of small plane crashes of politically-connected figures.

I did it once, and I'm sure it was incomplete because all I had was the internet and it wasn't nearly as complete as now. It was the damnedest thing. Must have been inaccurate. Must have. Because on my list only Democrats went down in flames except for one single four-year period in which Republicans went down and no Democrats. Truly odd. The four year period that was fatal to Republicans was the term of GHW Bush. After that, everything went back to normal with only Dems crashing.

Like I said, my list must have been inaccurate and I wish someone else would do a better job and prove me wrong. Because it was just odd.

[KingOfLostSouls]

7. lol the four year term of george h.w. bush

the former head of the CIA, a man who knows where millions of bodies are buried, was the cleaner

had to make sure no one who knew about iran-contra was ever going to talk about it.

[aquart]

56. It was so weird. All Dem deaths except for that 4 years.

I wish, I wish someone more knowledgeable would really do the research. I just don't know enough about politics in any local area to be sure what I was seeing.

And I could have missed some that would have changed the whole configuration.

[Frustratedlady]

49. I wish I'd seen the list.

What about the programmer/computer tech whose plane crashed around Christmas...the person who was going to testify or give a deposition. Also, the mysterious deaths during the 8 years previous.

[freshwest]

60. During Bush the Younger's reign, Steve Kangas had a great liberal web page.

Actually, the page is still there, being kept up by someone. He ended up dying under mysterious circumstances. Jim Hatfield who wrote Fortunate Son also died under suspicious circumstances. Of course we will never know, but some say neither of these men had reasons to kill themselves. There used to be a horrifying website called Bush Body Count.

The Steve Kangas website, Liberalism Resurgent, is a great reference although now it's rather dated:

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/LiberalFAQ.htm

No, I don't want to google them, it was all horrible enough when it was going on and they probably have been scrubbed. There was the Carnahan crash, JFK Jr.'s, and the Wellstones. Took out the whole family there, made sure his wife couldn't carry on like Carnahan's.

It's not like assassinations are ancient history. And they do change things tremendously, they perform their job very well. I still hold, even though some may feel the assassination attempt on Reagan was against a RW, that it's almost always a lefty in the gun sights.

P. S. While stumbling around I found a link that goes into proving what Steve Kangas says in Liberal Resurgent.

http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/08/steve-kangas-it-was-liberals-and.html

[Manifestor_of_Light]

62. Sen. Heinz & Senator Tower both died within a week of each other.

In mysterious plane crashes. I think it was because they were investigating Iran-Contra.

[karynnj]

65. They were not investigating Iran - Contra

Senator Heinz's plane crash was not mysterious. His plane colided with another plane (helicopter) that was trying to see if the Heinz plane's landing gear was ok before he landed. I know nothing of Tower's - a PA paper put out lots of information in 2004.

As to investigating Iran/Contra the only US Senator who did that was Senator Kerry - and that was in the late 1985 - 1986 time frame. Heinz and Tower died in 1991 - after Iran Contra investigations were over.

[goforit]

12. WOW.....Amazing!!!....

[eowyn_of_rohan]

17. Exactly

The only repubs I can think of are reagan and ford. And neither of them died.

[slackmaster]

21. Maybe you're too young to remember...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/sept98/wallace051672.htm

[eowyn_of_rohan]

23. I remember that, but wasn't Wallace a Dem?

I remember people cheered and laughed over it - c'est la vie in 1972, Madison Wis.

[slackmaster]

24. Actually no, and there's no way anyone could have labelled him a "liberal"

He was far right and racist at the time, and his candidacy was in the newly formed American Independent Party.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

25. that is for sure! But he was an "Alabama Dem" - DINO extreme.

Seem to recall he repented in his later years

[slackmaster]

26. He did indeed renounce racism after he recovered from the shooting.

His transformation was epic.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

30. Yes, and I admired him for that.

I was thinking about the shooter... Arthur Bremer. In later years George Wallace believed that Nixon was somehow behind the assassination attempt, and that his aides may have paid Bremer to do this. Due to this incident and the Kennedy assassinations, I always wonder if others are involved when there are assassinations and attempts..

[eowyn_of_rohan]

53. want to add - the ONLY thing I admired him for

[JDPriestly]

45. He was definitely American Independent Party.

George Corley Wallace, Jr. (August 25, 1919 – September 13, 1998) was the 45th Governor of Alabama, serving four terms: 1963–1967, 1971–1979 and 1983–1987. "The most influential loser" in 20th-century U.S. politics, according to biographers Dan T. Carter<1> and Stephan Lesher,<2> he ran for U.S. president four times, running officially as a Democrat three times and in the American Independent Party once. A 1972 assassination attempt left him paralyzed; he used a wheelchair for the rest of his life. He is best known for his Southern populist,<3> pro-segregation attitudes during the American desegregation period, convictions he renounced later in life.<4>

. . . .
For the next four months, Wallace's campaign went extremely well. However, Wallace was shot five times by Arthur Bremer while campaigning in Laurel, Maryland, on May 15, 1972, at a time when he was receiving high ratings in the opinion polls. Bremer was seen at a Wallace rally in Wheaton, Maryland, earlier that day and two days earlier at a rally in Dearborn, Michigan. As one of the bullets lodged in Wallace's spinal column, Wallace was left paralyzed from the waist down. Three others were wounded in the shooting and also survived. Bremer's diary, An Assassin's Diary, published after his arrest shows the assassination attempt was motivated by a desire for fame, not by politics, and that President Nixon had been an earlier target. Bremer was sentenced to sixty-three years in prison on August 4, 1972, later reduced to fifty-three years two months later. Bremer served thirty-five years and was released on parole on November 9, 2007. Wallace forgave Bremer 23 years later, in August 1995, and wrote to him, but Bremer never replied. Bremer's actions inspired the screenplay (1972)<34> for the 1976 movie Taxi Driver which in turn inspired the assassination attempt on the life of President Ronald Reagan by John Hinckley, Jr. in 1981.

Following the assassination attempt, Wallace was visited at the hospital by Democratic Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm,<35> a representative from Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn who at the time was the nation's only African American female member of Congress. Despite their ideological differences and the opposition of Chisholm's constituents, Chisholm visited Wallace as she felt it was the humane thing to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

On March 1, 1972, Bremer began his diary with the words, "It is my personal plan to assassinate by pistol either Richard Nixon or George Wallace. I intend to shoot one or the other while he attends a campaign rally for the Wisconsin Primary". Bremer's purpose was "to do SOMETHING BOLD AND DRAMATIC, FORCEFUL & DYNAMIC, A STATEMENT of my manhood for the world to see".<12> The following evening, Bremer attended an organizational meeting for Wallace at the Pfister Hotel in Milwaukee.

Although Bremer's main aim was to assassinate then-President Richard Nixon, on March 23, Bremer attended a Wallace dinner and rally at Milwaukee's Red Carpet Airport Inn. During the next two months, Bremer would trail Wallace, across the USA, travelling by car, plane, ferry and bus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bremer

Wallace's assassin, Bremer, was, as some right-wing female candidates might put it, just "manning up."

Let's end that kind of simplistic rhetoric in our political discussion and talk about facts and issues.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

50. He entered Presidential race as a DEMOCRATIC candidate 3 Times!

..and Independant once

* delegate to the 1948 Democratic National Convention
* Wallace ran for U.S. President in the November 1964 election and won a third of the vote in Wisconsin, Maryland and Indiana. (wikipidia)
* 1968 Wallace ran for President in the 1968 election as the American Independent Party candidate
* 1972 Wallace declared himself a Democratic candidate,& entered the field with George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, and nine other Democratic opponents. The assassination attempt ended his run.
* also announced he would run as Dem in 1976

Your own post states, "he ran for U.S. president four times, running officially as a Democrat three times and in the American Independent Party once"

You want to talk about facts and end "simplisic rhetoric"? What's this: "Wallace's assassin, Bremer, was, as some right-wing female candidates might put it, just "manning up."

[JDPriestly]

43. Wallace was American Independent Party (or something like that.)

[eowyn_of_rohan]

51. He was considered an "Alabama Democrat" ~ Dixiecrat

Only time he ran as an Independant - for Pres., at least, was in 1968.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace#Democratic_presidential_primaries_of_1964

1948 Delegate to the Democratic Convention
1962 Democratic Party nominee for Governor of Alabama (won)
1964 Democratic Candidtate for President (lost)
1968 American Independent Party presidential nominee (3rd)
1970 Democratic Party nominee for Governor of Alabama (won)
1972 Democratic candidate for US President (assassination attempt ended his run)
1974 Democratic Party nominee for Governor of Alabama (won)
1976 Announced he would run as Democratic for US President
1982 Democratic Party nominee for Governor of Alabama (won)

[woo me with science]

31. And people say our education system doesn't need help.

:banghead: :scared:

[jwirr]

35. Those they could not involve in scandals they killed.

[lapislzi]

38. He forgot Medgar Evers

And four little girls in an Atlanta church. Then again, he's probably never *heard* of Medgar Evers.

[TroglodyteScholar]

61. Those four little girls were killed in Birmingham, not Atlanta. n/t

[lapislzi]

63. My bad. Sorry.

You are, of course, right. By St. Alzheima's "to do" list, I will remember better next time. Thanks.

[Change Happens]

47. All HATE crimes against gays, blacks, latinos, women...etc. have always been committed by the R-wing

[RZM]

52. It's usually a bad idea to say 'all'

The world doesn't work like that

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/nyregion/26arrest.html

[howaboutme]

64. Also the attempted anthrax assassinations

of Daschle and Leahy and others who were killed.

[delightfulstar]

67. And that's just here in the U.S.

There have been countless others around the world who have given their lives for social justice. The hate and violence needs to stop.

[begin_within]

68. And don't forget Character Assassination.

How many victims of the right: Thomas Eagleton, Rose Bird, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and on and on.

[newtothegame]

70. My reply is short, as it's already been pointed out multiple times, but OP is full of inaccuracies.

3/4 of that last was not killed by the "right" at all.

There's no doubt that the conservative side of the political spectrum is significantly more militant and violent, but if we're going to try to change minds, let's at least get our facts straight so we're making a sound argument that can't be picked apart.

[ItNerd4life]

71. True. People also forget about the attempt on Reagan. nt

[wisteria]

73. I have to disagree. Just to drop a couple of Republicans,Lincoln, Ford and Reagan.

Ford and Reagan survived, but there were attempts made on their lives.

[valerief]

74. George Wallace wasn't liberal. Of course, most targets are liberal, because

being liberal means sharing (or being liberal with) money. Conservatives want to keep (or conserve) money for themselves.

[James48]

82. Moscone–Milk assassinations

in San Frrancisco.

Don't forget Harvey Milk.

[patrice]

83. The Right fantasizes about violence for money. That's what made T. LaHaye a millionaire. nt

[bengalherder]

84. One thing that seems to be in common with all-

Violent imagery toward the targets involved.

From The Emotional Life of Nations by Lloyd deMause:

The Assasination of Leaders
http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/eln01_leader.html

Americans from all parties were furious with Kennedy for various pretexts. Many began calling for a new Cuban invasion, agreeing with Barry Goldwater's demand that Kennedy "do anything that needs to be done to get rid of that cancer. If it means war, let it mean war."20 Kennedy was accused of being soft on Communism for living up to his no-invasion pledge to the Soviets, and when he then proposed signing a Limited Nuclear Test Ban Treaty with them, his popularity dropped even further.21
The nation's columnists expressed their fury towards the president, and




1:2 America felt death wishes toward Kennedy for not starting a war with Cuba


political cartoonists pictured Kennedy with his head being chopped off by a guillotine (above). Richard Nixon warned, "There'll be...blood spilled before over,"22 and a cartoon in The Washington Post portrayed Nixon digging a grave. Many editorialists were even more blunt. The Delaware State News editorialized: "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. His name right now happens to be Kennedy let's shoot him, literally, before Christmas."23 Potential assassins all over the country-psychopaths who are always around looking for permission to kill-saw all these media death wishes as signals, as delegations to carry out a necessary task, and began to pick up these fantasies as permission to kill Kennedy.24

I don't agree with all of his conclusions, but there's some interesting stuff at his site vis a vis violence and culture.

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85. He also singled out Glen Beck and his black board rants

of diagrams and calling Obama a Marxist, Communist, etc. I almost choked on my Maxwellhouse Coffee.

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88. In a larger context,

The right is only able to gain political power through military coup, electoral fraud, or war. Once they gain power, they keep it through suppression of the opposition vote, electoral fraud, economic policies that weaken labor, and if all else fails, military force.