Bernie Sanders probably won't win the primary if 83% of liberal Democrats like President Obama.

[LoZoccolo]

[pnwmom]

1. Good guess. n/t

[SugarShack]

27. Don't worry, they don't. Liberals are seething...Soc. Sec. and Medicare know no party line.

[ClarkUSA]

2. Especially since he's a Socialist. But he did "embrace... Mitch McConnell's proposal." Touching.

[AlabamaLibrul]

5. Bipartisanship...

:shrug:

[Armstead]

6. Put that one to bed...It's a misquote of what he meant

[Capn Sunshine]

13. so is practically everything attributed to Obama here at DU

but IOKIYHO.

[ClarkUSA]

26. That's a false statement. Prove it. It's right off his Senate website.

[Armstead]

35. You're right. Sanders is really a Republican and supports McConnell on all things

Actually he's really a teabagger. Justcread his website. It looks like it was written by McConnell or maybe Rand Paul.

[Historic NY]

3. yeah and if he wasn't a registered Democrat he wouldn't either.

[Armstead]

4. Bernie Sanders would not win the primary if 40 of liberal Dems liked Obama

What's your point?

Sanders isn't a Democrat anyway, and I seriously doubt he's thinking of becoming one to run a futile primary bid.

[Forkboy]

7. In the news tomorrow: Sun is still hot.

[gateley]

8. Most people I know consider themselves Liberal Democrats,

and view Obama the same way. We're off the charts compared to them so yeah, most probably wouldn't vote for Bernie. Although I keep saying, I think his message would reach across all lines, but maybe I just think that because I agree with him so much. :shrug:

[City Lights]

9. Auto unrec. eom

[Capn Sunshine]

22. lol

that's how we get things done, all right.
Forget about the republicans, primary Obama.

The left? You can't handle the left.

[polmaven]

44. Of course...

We mustn't ever not praise St. Bernard.....um.....I mean Bernie!

[xfundy]

10. Unrec for idiocy.

[Lasher]

11. That 83% won't hold up after the stupid ass faction of liberal Democrats realize what just went down

I thought you were going to use my Loco Zolo label. Did you forget about me?

[LoZoccolo]

14. This is a Loco Zolo thread.

[Lasher]

42. Hee hee

This is fun.

[JI7]

12. there is already a poll showing he is behind Obama by double digits in his own state

[cherokeeprogressive]

15. 83% of 25% of the populace...

Funny math.

[LoZoccolo]

17. I'm not sure if his numbers would get better amongst moderate and conservative Democrats.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. It's not lookin' good, Bro.

Really. It's not.

[ClarkUSA]

31. Is that why President Obama regularly beats every GOP candidate in head-to-heads?

Your rhetoric is not lookin' good. Then again, it never has.

[Forkboy]

34. Obama losing to Romney in Pennsylvania, poll says

Republican candidate Mitt Romney leads Obama 44%-42% in a new Quinnipiac University poll, well within the margin of error but less than comfortable for an incumbent president.

Obama's approval rating among Pennsylvanians is 43%, with 51% disapproving of his performance in office.

"If it's any consolation to the White House, voters say Obama acted more responsibly than Republicans during the debt ceiling debate, and approval ratings for Congress are just plain miserable," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
--

Pennsylvania voters say 52%-42% that Obama does not deserve to be re-elected, the poll said.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/08/obama-losing-to-romney-in-pennsylvania-poll-says/1

Of course, one poll does not a trend make, but the luster is no longer on Obama, and Pennsylvania has always been seen as a bell weather state. As the article states, Obama is doing a Midwest tour for a few days in the middle of August, so he must be aware that he now has a fight on his hands. Like it or not, 2012 will not be the cake walk it should have been. Two months ago I would have laughed at the idea of Obama losing to any GOP candidate. Now I think the chances are around 60-40. The fact that the GOP is completely insane is the best thing he has to his advantage right now, but he has work to do nonetheless.

[Creideiki]

41. Clark, I'm offended! Don't say that Obama is a GOP Candidate!

He only accedes to their every whim. That's different.

[quaker bill]

16. Bernie Sanders

might win Vermont. I would give him 50:50 there.

[DFLforever]

19. Obama beats Bernie by 19 points in VT,

Don't ask for a link... it's somewhere here on DU,

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. If Bernie said he was actually running against Obama, those numbers would be reversed. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

32. lol! Prove it.

[quaker bill]

38. If he were actually running

I would give him the benefit of the doubt and raise it to 50:50. I think he gets Kucinich/Nader numbers everywhere else (2 to 3 percent). Since some states are not "winner take all" for delegates, Bernie could probably collect up a mini van load before the convention.

Don't get me wrong. I like Bernie alot and would love to live in a Country where he would be the obvious choice for President, I am just pretty sure that I don't.

[PoliticAverse]

18. Obama will be the nominee. Any primary challenge would be only to make a point. n/t

[SugarShack]

28. Bernie is an Independent. He does not pose a primary challenge, He goes ALL THE WAY BABY!

[unkachuck]

20. I disagree....

....the brilliance of Bernie Sanders articulating from a podium next to President Obama caving and waffling, will be stark and dramatic....I feel huge voters shifts could occur overnight....keep the faith!

[MadHound]

23. Well, sense 83% of liberal Democrats are dissatisfied with the job Obama's doing,

I guess Sanders's primary bid is in business, eh?

"The Post-ABC poll found that the number of liberal Democrats who strongly support Obama’s record on jobs plunged 22 points from 53 percent last year to 31 percent."
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/more-americans-unhappy-with-obama-on-economy-jobs/2011/07/25/gIQABJ9sZI_story.html>

I think you need to start reading polls that are more up to date. This ain't 2009 anymore.

[ClarkUSA]

29. What proof do you have of that? Your source doesn't say anything of the sort.

[LoZoccolo]

33. That is his approval on a single issue.

[mmonk]

25. Wait til 2012.

[ClarkUSA]

30. Wishful thinking again?

[demosincebirth]

36. The other 13%, who don't, are here on DU.

[JoseGaspar]

37. This last thing was called "winning"?

No shit.

[Courtesy Flush]

39. I don't think that was the point.

I think he wants to run to shake up the president and get him back on track. He needs to know our support is dependent on him maintaining to the values that he ran on in 2008.

[LaydeeBug]

40. but maybe Obama will start to act like a DEMOCRAT, instead of a folding like a newspaper.

He seems unable or unwilling to fight.

[dionysus]

43. will you cut the shit already. jesus christ you're trying to drive people away from Obama.

[LoZoccolo]

45. I'm not sure how this is any worse than your sarcastic retorts to others' posts.

[SugarShack]

46. BS...he would cause the biggest upset, then you all will see the game of the "super delegates"

Like the super committee....they upsurp everyone else!

Obama cannot be primaried....but Bernie is an Indy and will go all of the way!!!