Tony Blankly just said our history is full of violent rhetoric and violent actions.

[dkf]

Dang I think he is right.

Michelle Bachman can use the language of the past and it is scary! Tea partiers too!

Is part of the problem that we have this schizophrenic idea of revering the actions of the past, but shunning the methods, language, and ideas in our own Democracy? And I definitely am not saying we should embrace the tactics of our forefathers. But how do we relegate them to the past and keep them there?

[jpgray]

1. We could start by recognizing there are epochal differences between different times

And that analogy between them is prone to error and without great care often leads one far from the object of one's inquiry.

[dkf]

2. Yet some of the values we still hold to also come from that time.

If you can say that times are different, where do these other rights stand?

In a way, we need to defend them by saying it was the way the founding fathers envisioned things.

[nolabear]

3. You mean like Henry VIII and Bloody Mary?

Everyone's history is full of violent rhetoric and actions. The idea is to evolve beyond such primitive ways of living and to see one another as co-citizens of a nation that, by our efforts, can do great things for humankind, and not as rivals for the hind teat.

But he wouldn't say that. Socialism, you know.