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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:07 PM Original message |
Jon Stewart talking liberals down from blaming right wing on Arizona shooting. Says you can't |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Shame on and DUer who slams Stewart. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 03:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
68. A Liberal By The Classic Definition, Sir, 'A Man Who Won't Even Take His Own Side In A Fight'. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 03:46 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. What a splendid response and post, Sir! You've still got it. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. It's not about taking sides. |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. NOT blaming them on THIS shooting.. just saying THE COFFEE IS PERCULATING |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Epic fail. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. He's wrong on this. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Yes he is |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
77. Me, too. He's wrong. The Right set the moral acceptance |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
107. Indeed. |
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kimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. I thought what he said was very on point, IMO |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Sounds like must see tv. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Good for him. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
96. In good company with Barbara Walters, Candy Crowley, and Ms. Greenspan |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yeah. NO ONE could have predicted that some RW nut would shoot |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Beyond the imagination, really. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
80. you craaazy liberals with your wild and craaaazy speculations about political assassination |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I still haven't seen evidence that he is right wing. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Listen and learn |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
63. I have seen nothing that suggests his writings were coherent or |
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anAustralianobserver (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
101. Thanks, very clarifying interview about some obvious influences. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. Well, no, there is plenty of evidence out there that he is RW and nothing credible |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. No, I have seen a lot of cherry picking on both sides. nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. +1 |
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PDittie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
9. So what did he say? |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
54. Basically that you cannot blame any party for the incident. Bullshit. nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. Oh right. More of Jon Stewart's War Against High Toned Rhetoric. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Isnt that what we are all bitching about? |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. But you can certainly stoke the fires and blow some oxygen on the embers. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
82. but it's good for ratings....the ember blowers make for great interviews |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. I hope that was satire. n/t |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
88. Jon is in lock-step with the Media's castigation of the passions of the left |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
15. I think he was talking down both sides... |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Sure. Olbermann has inspired so many assassins |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I'm no appeaser...I stated what I thought Stewart was doing. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. The RW have always attracted crazies like..... |
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HR_Pufnstuf (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. A registered independent (with mental issues) shot a centrist. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Nice insight. |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Well, you could say it was politicized because |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. a political asaisnation can be any more ploiticized, crazy or not, the man was an anti- govt gun nut |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
94. seems to me the Media is running with the 'registered' Indepedent, she was a moderate |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
95. He is anti-government because he believes that it controls minds... |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
97. Gun nut? He recently bought the guns, hadn't even shot guns much |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
64. +10000 nt |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. Good for him. Rec'd. n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. jon is wrong headed about quite a few things |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
27. Let's see, ratchet up the rhetoric |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. what gratuitous said |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 03:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
71. Not a nitiwt, but is not Stewart a millionaire receiving a paycheck for the Corporate System? |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. Not until Palin/McCain/Rush apologize to the victims, JON!! |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. Actually, the argument is somewhat more nuanced than Stewart seems to understand |
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Chorophyll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Yep. Exactly. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Exactly. n/t |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I posted this as an OP because, to me, this is what the left is responding to nt |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 03:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
70. CORRECT |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:35 AM Original message |
Thanks. n/t |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
78. Thanks. n/t |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
32. Jon is clearly wrong about this. Millions of us predicted this "crazy". |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Yep. |
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Mink2 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. We predicted it. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
52. How are you going to shut them up? |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 04:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
72. A healthy societal mainstream would reject such incoherent madness by itself |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
81. See? I don't get that... |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
35. Stewart has become a tool ever since that rally he had last year. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Go Watch it for yourself. |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
36. That is why he is a comedian. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
38. Thanks for the warning. Won't be watching tonite. |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
39. Here on the West Coast....we wait. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
40. If the reverse happen would the right resist the urge to blame the left? |
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Lifelong Protester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. Had to turn away from the TV, I think he is off on this one. |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
47. Man, he is a piece of work |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:31 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I don't care for him myself. He seems disengenuous to me. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I won't go anywhere near that far but his Wolf Blitzer impression is lame |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. What heaping pile of BS this post is. |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Yes you already posted your preemptive shaming |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I hate that piece of shit. How DARE he?! How DARE he say something I don't agree with |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Yeah, that's right, how DARE he |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. He did a lot more to hurt them than he did to help them ALOT more |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:30 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. It didn't amount to much though, did it? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. You obvioulsy dont know what a false equivalency is. |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. LOL |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Equivalent means equal. Never did Stewart say the Left and Right were equal |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
90. You are misrepresenting Stewart's claims. Whether or not you actually know you are doing this is |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. only his barely coherent backpedaling after the fact... |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 03:29 AM Response to Reply #47 |
67. I agree. What the hell was so liberal about tonight's program? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
89. Stewarts mistake at the rally was assuming people were trained in classical debate. |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. LOL - yeah, it was over my head... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Yes, what he was saying was over your head, but it is not that complicated. |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. A minimal ability to spot sophistry and equivocation |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. I haven't hurled any insults. Nobody is familiar with every subject. |
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CrawlingChaos (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. condescension fail |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. I have not failed at being condescending because I have not attempted to be condescending. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
106. Used to love him, now... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
48. He is entitled to be wrong occasionally. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
65. I've been skeptical of him every since he went after KO |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 03:01 AM Response to Original message |
66. I watched both Stewart and Colbert |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
73. One cannot predict the date, time, and location, of crazy |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
74. good for Jon |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
76. lets see, stewart has rally, tone down rhetoric cause could cause this. this happens. conclusion? |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
79. then why was it predicted so clearly, fuck stewart. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
83. Remember that DHS report that everyone slammed? |
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WestSeattle2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
84. I beg to differ. We know there are mentally unstable people; we |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. i think that is what stewart said at rally and why he wanted toned down. nt |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
86. You can't always predict Which crazy but you could predict there would be crazy |
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trayNTP (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
87. Jon Stewart is a *COINCIDENCE THEORIST*, therefore he's an apologist for agitators. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
91. I like Jon, but he's wrong. You can certainly predict crazy, when prominent public voices |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
99. Jon attacks a strawman, liberals blame the tone and atmosphere |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
102. What do you expect from a very rich white dude? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
103. Not all right wingers are crazy, but most crazy people are right wing! |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
104. The reason you're not suppose to speak such hateful bullshit for one |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
109. So all that stuff about "restoring sanity" really isn't important? |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
111. THIS is why I watch Colbert |
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