Mrs. Greenspan Didn't Seem Too Happy When The House Sgt. At Arms Backed Up Sheriff Dupnik

[JimGinPA]

Saying he was "Well respected in these parts" and agreed there was too much vitriol in politics lately. You could see it wasn't the answer she expected in response to her (leading) question saying he was being criticized for his remarks. That ended the interview.

Andrea Mitchell certainly doesn't have much of a poker face.

[RainDog]

1. and funny the media doesn't want to accept the position of law enforcement

when that law enforcement is pointing the finger at them.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Actually that does not surprise me

it is hard for the purveyors to accept they are part of the problem

[movonne]

8. The corporations are the ones supporting these tea bagger and

the media is one of the biggest corps...

[Zoeisright]

9. Law enforcement supports gun control too.

Right wing loonies only want to support people who support all of their idiotic beliefs.

[Cid_B]

13. Especially that part where he says that he has no evidence...

... and it's just what he thinks it is (or should be)

[RainDog]

16. well, would you like to see a study that illustrates the effect of violent political rhetoric?

if so, you can read this:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Fkhx1XcI1QIJ:sitemaker.umich.edu/kalmoe/files/kalmoe_-_political_violence.pdf+does+violent+political+rhetoric&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiwDAG3I-6UOJ7O83AGLLpTUkZ8xxjSzxi5-lY715OQVijprj7i4VYT7Jxd0tUFL-V525jazULAEKPbtYfdi5mCWBlXbgnwrBFrI0w1MC8QEffy4Hu1YvtmdMVE_Nu08EQ6Pe2s&sig=AHIEtbTd6eWhG_RxEeORRcSNVF0IHETLJA&pli=1

I know you have spent time on this site telling the Sheriff to shut up, but the reality is that there is data that indicates violent political rhetoric feeds political violence - from a study in Sept. 2010.

In addition, in lawless states, or states falling into anarchy, one of the prescriptions to deal with things like the genocide in Rwanda is to take eliminationist rhetoric spewing political agitators off the air.

but you go right ahead and continue to defend the right wing - that's what freedom of speech is about - it's NOT about lawmakers having to shut up when there is ample reason for them to note the level of vitriol from the right wing has crossed the boundaries of common decency.

have a great day!

[FogerRox]

19. There is a reason that the phrase "Agent Provocateur" exists

For some reason I think Niccolo Machiavelli would agree.

[Cid_B]

22. That's just jingles...

... but the difference is that I can see the other side of the coin.

I see that as soon as the cry goes up to tramp down speech because of its possible inflammatory content the floodgates open and everything that someone doesn't like becomes "dangerous." The best case scenario is all we get is vanilla plain crap where everyone hugs and agrees and even that is unwanted and unrealistic.

I also have a problem with a Sheriff spouting his own beliefs in a manner that can degrade an investigation, divert attention away from true causes and possibly hurt a prosecution. I have a problem with a LEO taking the national stage to fan a fire instead of putting it out. That's because I am a professional and that is something the good Sheriff knows nothing about.

[RainDog]

23. A study from a public ivy league university is "just jingles"

Is evolution also "just a theory?"

...and are you claiming this sheriff is not a professional - that his job is not also to help to "keep the peace?"

you're claiming you are better qualified to determine what is good for his county - you know more about the rhetoric from the tea party in his state than he does?

I would really like to understand the rationale that allows the leap of logic from calling for greater public civility in a time of national crisis to something that "degrades" an investigation.

In the context of this event - Giffords was on record talking about the the way in which violent political rhetoric had gone too far. Her opponent, with whom the sheriff is most certainly familiar, used a fundraiser that framed defeat of Gifford with shooting an M-16 for target practice.

For you to try to make a claim the sheriff is fanning the fire begs credulity. If someone speaks out to tell rabble rousers to tone it down- that's fanning flames? In a right wing upside down universe, I suppose it is.

[Enthusiast]

26. Dang, what a post! Plus one!

Yup, in a bizarro world the sheriff is fanning the flames. Up is down.

[bettyellen]

29. Thank you for calling out this bullshit

[bettyellen]

28. ha ha ha , the Sherrif was fanning a fire. LOL. CRAZY TALK

[EV_Ares]

2. Yeah, it is really interesting why the media including some on MSNBC are working

so hard to say this act was not political (which may be true) but also, saying the rhetoric by Beck, Palin, Limbaugh & other right-wing extremists had nothing at all to do with this act. What is their game?

[FrenchieCat]

3. The answer to your question can be found

Here:
A media that knows what it doesn’t know, and doesn’t know what it chooses
http://www.democratsforprogress.com/2011/01/10/a-media-that-knows-what-it-doesn’t-know-and-doesn’t-know-what-it-chooses/

[EV_Ares]

15. Thanks FrenchieCat, appreciate it & will save that forum. eom.

[Poll_Blind]

25. +1 for the question. n/t

PB

[malaise]

5. Sheriff Dupnik has stolen the meme

M$Greedia can't handle this.

[movonne]

10. They will vilify sheriff dupnik as the real Villon in this story...wait

and see..

[Supersedeas]

18. Funny how consistent and how quickly Ms. Greenspan and the other networks have

turned on the Sheriff.

Yes, they know who to blame.

[pacalo]

6. His common-sense remarks are at odds with the corporate hacks who lie.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

7. I disagree vehemently!

She has a poker face!



Andrea Mitchell c.2002-AP/Reuters

[Octafish]

27. LOLOL!

Terry Gilliam is better than money.

[charlie]

11. Married to a Randroid

she's probably internalized the regard of community-minded rabble as "parasites." Dupnik is upsetting the Proper Order by humanizing vermin.

[Tsiyu]

12. Sorry Andrea

Didn't work for you this time.

the true question for you is: Why do you people hate law enforcement so much that you want to demonize this sheriff?

Huh?

[asjr]

14. Years ago I thought Andrea was a mediocre

reporter. I never thought of her as a journalist. But in the last few years I have noticed unless she has a script she can't seem to get it together. I've also noticed when she is interviewing someone on her hourly sojourn she seems to be hesitating a great deal. As if she is floored by someone actually replying to her query. It is almost as if she fears she might say the wrong thing. Maybe I'm just being paranoid again, but that seems to be my lot in life these days.

[lpbk2713]

17. Blow it out your dainty little ass Andrea.

Isn't it time for her to retire?

[Motown_Johnny]

20. Why does that woman still have air time?

She is an embarrassment

[Supersedeas]

21. Beltway Cocktail circuit connections -- political assassination can be so 'quaint'

[Enthusiast]

24. That damn liberal MSNBC! nt