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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 02:37 AM
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Raising Medicare Age Will COST Money and It Is Bad for Health
Raising Medicare Age Will COST Money and It Is Bad for Health
http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/delaying-medicare-eligibility-is-bad-for-health/

By now most of the blogosphere has weighed in on Joe Lieberman’s idea of increasing Medicare eligibility from age 65 to 67 (see Frakt, Klein, Volsky, Drum, Krugman). Most of the focus has been on how the delayed eligibility will affect overall health costs. Though federal costs may go down, overall costs would not, because most would just be shifted to seniors themselves. Cost isn’t everything, though. There’s something else delay would do: harm health.

This is not guesswork on our part; there’s clear evidence in the literature. In several papers, Michael McWilliams and colleagues found that utilization, spending, and outcomes for age-eligible Medicare beneficiaries differed for those who had been uninsured prior to turning 65 vs. those who had been insured. Their work was based on survey data, sometimes merged with Medicare claims. This is a relatively strong analytic approach since it exploits a discontinuity in coverage that potentially applies to nearly all individuals: the vast majority of the population enrolls in Medicare at age 65.

The authors found that, relative to those with insurance before age 65, those without insurance prior to Medicare eligibility spent much more money on health care after they became Medicare eligible. In other words, people wait to get care until their Medicare kicks in. This is bad both for health and for the federal government’s bottom line.

Delaying Medicare even longer would likely make this worse. People would forego care longer, health would suffer, and Medicare would pay for the consequences later.

This shouldn’t surprise anyone. It makes sense. It’s hard to get affordable insurance as you approach age 65. If you’re lucky enough to have insurance, then you’re getting the care you need, so getting Medicare is nice, but not a huge change in your life. If you’re uninsured, though, then getting Medicare is a huge change. If you know you need care, and it’s expensive, then you will likely try and wait until the Medicare kicks in to get it. People do this all the time; the evidence above confirms it.

Raising the eligibility age will just force these people to wait longer. If this somehow saved us money, then we suppose you could have a debate about its benefits and harms. Knowing that it will likely cost Medicare more, however, means that it’s entirely possible that delaying Medicare eligibility will cost more and lead to worse outcomes. That’s the worst of both worlds.

Graphs and charts are available online.

References

<1> McWilliams JM, Meara E, Zaslavsky AM, Ayanian JZ. Health of previously uninsured adults after acquiring Medicare coverage. JAMA. 2007;298:2886-94.
<2> McWilliams JM, Meara E, Zaslavsky AM, Ayanian JZ. Use of health services by previously uninsured Medicare beneficiaries. N Engl J Med. 2007;357:143-53.



Raising the Age of Medicare Eligibility:
A Fresh Look Following Implementation of Health Reform

http://www.kff.org/medicare/8169.cfm


Several major deficit-reduction and entitlement reform proposals include raising Medicare's age of eligibility from 65 to 67 as a way of improving Medicare's solvency. This Kaiser Family Foundation report estimates the expected effects on such a change on the federal budget, as well as on affected seniors' out-of-pocket costs, employers, Medicaid and others in light of the major changes in coverage enacted under the 2010 health reform law.

The study estimates that raising Medicare’s eligibility to 67 in 2014 would generate an estimated $5.7 billion in net savings to the federal government, but also result in an estimated net increase of $3.7 billion in out-of-pocket costs for 65- and 66-year-olds, and $4.5 billion in employer retiree health-care costs. In addition, the study projects that the change would raise premiums by about 3 percent both for those who remain on Medicare and for those who obtain coverage through health reform's new insurance exchanges. The study assumes both full implementation of the health reform law and the higher eligibility age in 2014 in order to estimate the full effect of both the law and the policy proposal.

In the absence of the health reform law, raising Medicare's age of eligibility would result in an increase in the uninsured, according to other studies, as many older Americans would have difficulty finding affordable coverage in the individual market in the absence of Medicare. With health reform, virtually all 65- and 66-year-olds would be expected to obtain alternative sources of coverage.

The study is authored by researchers from the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Actuarial Research Corporation and is available online. It is the first in a new series of Kaiser Family Foundation studies examining the effects of proposed Medicare changes on the program’s beneficiaries, the federal budget and other stakeholders.

NOTE: Originally released in March 2011, this report and news release were updated in July 2011 to reflect additional provisions of the 2010 health reform law. These adjustments result in lower estimates of net federal savings and aggregate out of pocket spending attributable to raising the age of eligibility.

Despite the savings to the government, overall health care costs will INCREASE due to shifting them to employers and to sick people, by $2.5 billion dollars.


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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 03:40 AM
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1. "Make no mistake: both parties must give up their sacred cows, like
"Evidence" and "math", and embrace the new realities of a 21st-century America where we just make crap up."
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 03:46 AM
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2. What is this "evidence" of which you speak?
:sarcasm:
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 05:20 AM
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3. I laugh the laugh of a maniac.
This is so funny it hurts. No, really it hurts because this is the reality of what we are seeing now.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 06:37 AM
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6. Bravo! There is a future for you in DC!
:)
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:44 AM
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16. I am pretty sure that Manny was being ironical. n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 05:24 AM
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4. recommend
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 06:32 AM
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5. This is the biggest puzzler of all. The age for Medicare should be lowered, not raised.
I don't think human life should be considered a "sacred cow" when the other side's cow is tax cuts.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 10:26 AM
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7. WE should kick Lieberman out of our caucus....He is more evil than Rick Perry.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 12:41 AM
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10. We can't, he's too useful as a bogeyman to hide behind.
He trots out the really unpopular shit to shield others. Then six months down the road when the entire process has become a clusterfuck everyone can point the finger at him.

They're not fooling anyone.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 10:31 AM
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8. Furthermore, lowering the age for Medicare (say, to birth)
would actually put the program on a sounder footing, because the typical young person has fewer and less serious illnesses than the typical old person. There's just no comparison between the cost of treating an ear infection and the cost of treating a massive stroke.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-17-11 08:47 PM
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9. Stop making sense! n/t
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:01 AM
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11. +1000 nt
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anneboleyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:25 AM
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12. Exactly. It makes too much sense.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:07 AM
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13. exactly. we know this. but of course,
we have to keep the health insurance companies making money. :sarcasm:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:32 AM
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14. kr
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:42 AM
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15. The Powers that Be Don't really care about the costs.
This is Humanacide, pure and simple.

We have watched our jobs be outsourced, our homes foreclosed, our schools barely functinioning, and now Social Security and MediCare are going to get the axe.

And while this is happening, our liability is on the line for the Nine Trillions of dollars that Paulson/Bernanke offered to Wall Street.

Meanwhile, Corporate Monsanto and other Big Agro firms basically force the farmers to grow crops on soil so tainted with RoundUp and other pesticides that famine will be the result. Already, Dr Don Huber, an expert on Monsanto's Gm crops, has warned us that with the soil in such bad shape nutritionally, the wheat, corn and rice will be afflicted to the extent that Americans will get sick from this GM food.

The Powers that Be don't care.

The Powers that Be are pushing for expansion of nuclear power, despite the catastrophe that the Japanese are facing.

They got 150 plus billions of dollars from Obama last fall to help them build more nuke warheads, and Obama's excuse is that giving them this money will enable him to negotiate the SALT Treaty.

I don't think much of what we have will survive. As people in Baghdad have learned to say, "Today is better than tomorrow will be." I foresee Henry Kissinger's world of six hundred million people.



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 02:53 AM
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17. It's a disgrace to this nation that it has again been betrayed on universal health care ...
Edited on Thu Aug-18-11 02:54 AM by defendandprotect
and many still seem to be in shock over it --

This corruption will only continue to grow unless we begin to address it and

try to do something about stopping it --


Sen. Bernie Sanders -- 2012 for president!!


http://www.stophoping.org

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dash_bannon Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 04:30 AM
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18. It's a Ruse
This whole budget crisis is a ruse. It's all a ploy to get us used to living on less and having less so that the rich can have more.

There's no way a person is going to be able to afford private health insurance as they age. Can you imagine what the cost of private health insurance for a 65 year old would be, if they can get coverage?

Obama and the Republicans are damning future senior citizens, which we're all going to be at some point.

To even think about cutting Medicare is disgusting and immoral.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 11:01 AM
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19. Healthcare In General Is Badly Broken
When I turned 65 and continued to work my insurance was converted to Medicare for Part A (hospitalization) with my work related insurance covering everything else. There was no downward adjustment in my work insurance deduction even though they were no longer responsible for hospitalization.

Just yesterday I received a bill for tests and lab work that totalled $1,333. Insurance paid $31 of that amount. Yes, contractual adjustments reduced that by $790 but my out of pocket is still $511. That's right, insurance paid well under 10% of the final charges. That sucks!
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 05:51 PM
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20. Let's face facts.
Once you retire you are probably no longer profitable. You become a liability. When that happens you should die so government can funnel those funds to the "job creators" who can't work their economic magic becasue old and sick and poor people destroy their incentives by being alive and not being patriotic enough to just die. :patriot:
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