On language...

[nadinbrzezinski]

We know the push-back from the RW. It is not an accident. No, this kid was not taking orders from Wasilla, or Rush, or Glen (though we have another shooter that was directly inspired by Glen)... Language of violence is in the air. You just have to turn to RW radio... they like to tell us that it is just entertainment. But, let's be honest... if I went on the air... and had an audience of 12 million, average for Rush... yes that many listen to El Rushbo... and I keep saying day after day, year after year... "the problem in the country are liberals. They are coming after our freedoms folks. They want to kill the American dream. Conservatives only want to preserve the American Way, and they are enemies of the People..." that drum beat will have an effect on the culture.

We have evidence from other places in history where that language (that kind of elininationist language) has led, in time, to civil wars and genocides. Rwanda was not an accident.

Now do me a favor. All of you. Turn on your AM dial. Except for some places, tell me HOW MANY stations on the talky side are running this crap day in and day out? How many are running lefty talk? How many are just running talk? (WINS radio news comes to mind)

Yes, it is that bad. And yes, in a sane country, we are not... this should have been a wake up moment. We have not. If anything Rush and ilk are in full offense mode, since the best defense is offense. So I expect more, not less... "lone wolfs" to go off. I expect more violence... and at this point... we are committed for something ugly...

And no, they are NOT going to stop... not until this explosion finally goes off. Hell, not even then. And if this goes to my worst Kafkaesque nightmares... all bets are off. Oh and for all who are going... but, but a revolution would be good... (the violent kind) go over to BBC, and watch the video of them taking gurneys to choppers... burn that image into your mind. That is what that looks like. And that... is a mild version, with an EMS system that still works.

Oh and here is one of those images



And another



and a last one, from the mess left over.



This is with a functioning society.

[Ruby the Liberal]

1. With all of the blather the last 4 days about this, I have to wonder

why no one has brought up the Tides Foundation would-be assassin as you noted?

Do they not see a connection, or are they all in the same club of meaningless bleating for viewers? That connection (as well as Ailes telling his people to tone it down) speaks volumes and could end this "debate" in a hurry.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. because I don;t think many people

want to remember that one. And since nobody died. it was easier to ... push under the rug.

[tblue37]

5. I had a highly recommended thread about the CEO of TIDES writing to

FOX that they'd have blood on their hands if they didn't rein in Beck. So the TIDES thing was brought up.

[Ruby the Liberal]

8. I read and rec'd that

Was referring to the MSM. They act like this is a first where it is clearly NOT.

[tblue37]

9. Ah, yes. TIDES has gone down the MSM memory hole. nt

[HuckleB]

3. Kick.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. kick

[HopeHoops]

6. Even "good" stations can be a RW problem. Take our local classic rock station - Clear Channel.

Normally, the commercials are what you get from any other station (loud, obnoxious Toyota blather, etc.)

Before the 2004 election, and again before the 2008 election, all of these sappy "public service announcements" started replacing commercial time in increasing quantities. Of course they were all patriotic "protect Amurka" type messages with a clear echo of the GOP theme. But hey, Clear Channel got to air them as FREE GOP ads because they called them "public service announcements". I didn't feel serviced by them.

[reformist2]

7. It's brainwashing, plain and simple.

Reinstating the Fairness Doctrine is the only antidote I can think of.