I just hate asking this, but I really want to know...

[AsahinaKimi]

Poll question: I just hate asking this, but I really want to know...

September 11th is soon approaching. Do you think we could have another "event" in the United States?
It seems September 11th has always been the day things have been targeted by terrorist groups.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. other...

there is always a threat from out there... but we over reacted and truly cannot defeat a TACTIC... which is what terrorism is.

But yes, it is always possible. Regardless the response has been such that Al Qaida did more damage than their wildest dreams.

[markpkessinger]

22. +1 K&R!

[hifiguy]

34. Declaring war on "terrorism"

was always stupid as it is a tactic. It's like declaring "war" on the blitzkrieg rather than Nazi Germany. There will always be crazies - often motivated by one crackpot fundy religion or another - and the thing to do is determine who the crazies are and work to undermine them or infiltrate them. There is no such thing as a zero-risk world.

And "terrorism" is a vastly remote threat to any given individual, like being hit on the head by a meteorite. Joblessness, illness and poverty are the real threats to ordinary people. But there's no money in those for the MIC.

[hlthe2b]

2. The economy & prospects of Rethugs back in WH scares me more

than the prospects of any terrorism.

Safer? It is all relative, so who knows... I don't believe that we --in the past ten years-- have done much more than send billions of dollars into the pockets of speculators and contractors, with little real justification/research going in to how they are spent.

[Electric Monk]

3. 9/11/01 was an inside job

nt

[ixion]

5. Indeed.

:applause:

[leftstreet]

7. +1

[shanti]

25. absolutely n/t

[rurallib]

4. If the incompetents in the republican party were in charge

I would be more concerned.

May be another hurricane, though.

[NYC_SKP]

6. Screw the Terrorists. I treat it like just another day. In fact, I'm flying to New Orleans on 9-11

Who wants to buy me a cocktail?

Or, hell, I'll buy you one!

:party:

[LWolf]

8. Other.

I'm sick of the U.S. obsession with 9/11. It gave the bogus Bush administration legitimacy. It created the opening that led to the current economic and social disasters.

It was terrible. It wasn't the only terrible thing that people have done to other people, and certainly not anywhere near the worst. More than double the number of American soldiers have died in Iraq and Afghanistan than died that day, and our casualties are small compared to the civilian deaths in the fucking "war on terror" and the numbers of those we've killed. Add our allies' deaths to that, and we've used 9/11 to cause destruction and death on a much larger scale than 9/11 did.

I'm not afraid. Not before, not during, not since, not now. I have spent not a single moment of my life afraid of terrorists, or worked up in determination to enact revenge, to establish what a bully the U.S. is, or in any other dramatic response.

On the other hand, I'm deeply worried about the damage we've done to the nation allowing election fraud, and allowing neo-liberals to control the Democratic Party. I think it's deeper and longer lasting than 9/11.

If I want to contemplate possible terrorist actions and targets, all I have to do is look at the domestic terrorists attacking civil rights, attacking labor, attacking education, attacking social and economic justice...

THOSE are the most dangerous terrorists out there.

[scarletwoman]

11. +1,000 Excellent post! I'm with you.

Our country is being destroyed from within. The damage is far worse and far more widespread and longlasting than anything any terrorist could possibly do.

[AsahinaKimi]

12. Thank you for that

excellent response.

[LWolf]

28. You're welcome, of course.

:hi:

[Poll_Blind]

14. +1

PB

[MrMickeysMom]

20. Respect...

[butterfly77]

30. My thoughts exactly..

[inna]

33. and... you forgot to mention the worst kind... profiteering homocidal megalomaniacs

waging wars (and killing people!) all over the globe.

of course, typically they are the same lovely people who terrorize us economically on the domestic front; but... at least, they are not hunting us down with drones... yet.

how we the people put up with this shit is beyond comprehension, really.

:nuke: :nuke:

[LWolf]

36. Them, too.

:grr:

[hifiguy]

35. Well said! nt

[PufPuf23]

39. Hell yeah! Thank you for the obvious. nt

[Dj13Francis]

9. The same assholes still are in charge...

I'm working on getting my new song ready by the 11th. Here are the lyrics:

We Want The Truth

It’s hard to wrap your head around the blackest kind of evil
That brought the towers down and murdered thousands of our people
The needed justice for the dead has been delayed for far too long
If they’re watching from above they’re singing along with this song
Listen to the architects and hear the words of engineers
They’ve been speaking truth to lies, been doing so for many years
I don’t know who is to blame but this will summarize it all
It wasn’t just two planes that day that made three towers fall

We want the truth – We won’t accept the lies (CHORUS)
Our people still seek reckoning for the reasons that they died
Thousands of people perished and millions of people cried
Justice after all this time somehow has been still denied
We know that implosion was more than just perhaps
The impetus and method that caused their sad collapse
They know, they know, but they’ll never tell
The real reasons why they made those towers fell

Neptune has drowned and Atlas just sighed
Truth has been smothered by all of the lies
This cognitive dissonance cannot be relieved
The evil we’re facing just can’t be believed
Do not join the madness, do not be their tool
Do not let them get away and play you for a fool
You know what makes all this just so damned insane?
It’s less about who is, than who is not to blame

(CHORUS)

The question ain’t so much why they’re such evil fuckers
Question is just how we let them play us all for suckers
Let’s stick Cheney with a dose of sodium pentothal
That’s the place to start at getting to the bottom of it all
Just wake up and cease to be intellectually lazy
Seeking truth is easy and it doesn’t make you crazy
How you react doesn’t matter – you can even taze me
All their lies and subterfuge, none of it will phase me.

(CHORUS)

www.davidjamesfrancis.com

[Mnemosyne]

16. I like your lyrics, thank you for sharing, David. n/t

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. Nope. Please, tell me of any other terror attacks linked to 9/11

other than THE 9/11.

It is a myth that Islamic terrorists focus on particular memorable dates - that is American conservative projection.

Americans, OTOH, have a history of terror attacks focused on April 19th (commemortive of Lexington/Concord battle) and April 20 (Hitler's B'day).

OTOH, if 9/11 WAS an inside job, yeah, we REALLY need to worry.

[AsahinaKimi]

13. I understood the first attempt on the twin towers

Was on 9/11. There is also a religious Islamic holiday that day..I don't recall what it is. But there have been other attacks on 9/11 before the one that brought down the twin towers. Its hard to google it now with all the current stuff on the last 911 event..

[RaleighNCDUer]

32. Huh uh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

The Islamic holiday of Eid CAN fall on 9/11, but being based on a lunar calendar that only happens occasionally. That's like saying the the American revolutionaries chose April 19th for the Battle Of Concord because it coincides with Easter.

OTOH, 9/11 IS the anniversary of the 1973 overthrow of Allende - by the American CIA and General Pinochet.

[H2O Man]

15. Other

"The future's uncertain, the end is always near."
-- James Douglas Morrison; Irish-American poet

[Electric Monk]

18. The blue bus is callin' us

Driver, where you taken' us

[EFerrari]

17. It's possible but you're more likely to find a parking space in the Haight at dinner time.

[unkachuck]

19. other....this year may be different....

....we have to ask ourselves, "On this tenth anniversary of 911, who would substantially benefit from another large-scale attack on US soil?"

....there are many international and domestic political players and groups that would love to harm the US and see Obama lose the 2012 election....

[Solly Mack]

21. 9-11-01 was tragic...but everything that happened after was far more damaging

to the nation as a whole.

Those deaths on September 11, 2001 were horrible...but look how America used those deaths to commit war crimes, erode civil liberties, and every other abuse and crime the Bush administrating engaged in...(and was enabled by Congress)

I was never someone who thought the US safe from attack...I still don't think the US safe from attack....but that doesn't keep me up at night and I don't go around fearful about it either.


Americans (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, etc./DOJ/DoD/CIA/members of Congress/Bush supporters and enablers) caused America's greatest damage over the last decade.

Americans did it.

[whatchamacallit]

23. Only if the government thinks the NWO is progressing too slowly.

But they got so much milage out of the last false flag attack, we're probably safe.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

24. The PNAC folks would be best queried over that possible outcome. n/t

[xiamiam]

26. i am more terrorized by the criminals on wall street that i am over a terrorist attack

they are the ones who brought us to our knees..together with never ending war and its waste

[classof56]

29. My thoughts exactly.

They have control over our lives, present and future, because they can destroy each of us financially with the stroke of an auto-pen and we have no recourse. They and Republicons in public office are the true terrorists. And yes, I do indeed fear them.

Tired Old Cynic

[butterfly77]

31. +1

[Shandris]

27. I was torn between a couple of choices.

I think it's always a possibility. However, I don't think it is any more (or less) likely on that day than any other.

[Shagbark Hickory]

37. It only takes one crazy phuck.

I thnk you know how I voted in the poll.

[Warren DeMontague]

38. if you need to fly, do it on Sept. 11.

apparently, tickets are cheap b/c no one wants to fly that day.

I don't think anything will happen. I think the Al Qaeda 'threat', while real, was always more hype than anything else.