I feel bad.

[socialshockwave]

I was speaking to a friend of mine who lives in the U.S - she has tumours she thinks are benign and cannot get health care, even though she works for a city government.

She posted this on her Facebook wall. A kind of weird nursery rhyme political talking point:

I do not like this Uncle Sam, I do not like his health care scam.
I do not like these dirty crooks, or how they lie and cook the books.
I do not like when Congress steals,
I do not like their secret deals.
I do not like this speaker, Nan ,
I do not like this ‘YES WE CAN’.
I do not like this spending spree,
I’m smart, I know that nothing’s free,
I do not like your smug replies, when I complain about your lies.
I do not like this kind of hope.
I do not like it. nope, nope, nope!

And her rationale was that because the unemployed are getting free health care, it is driving HER premiums up so high that she cannot get health care to be seen for her illnesses.

I - really don't know what to say to her. :(

[Broderick]

1. Is this real?

[socialshockwave]

2. I've seen it over the 'net

It's some kind of right-wing nursery rhyme against Obama's health care.

[Broderick]

7. fitting for anti-Americans.

[petronius]

3. Bummer. If you ignore the idiocy, that's actually quite good

I guess even clever people aren't necessarily smart...

[kentuck]

4. Tell her you will read up on it and get back to her...

What else can one say??

[socialshockwave]

5. I'm not sure.

I don't know how the health care bill in the States works.

If what she says is true - that it's driving premiums up so high she cannot get health care, making her angry against it - then it's bad.

But if it's not true...I dunno.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. What is driving her premiums up

is ER care. People who have no choice go to the ER for all kinds of health care and it has to be picked up somehow.

Of course it would not be an issue if we had something like oh Health Canada.

But in a nutshell that is the problem.

As to her particular problem... the insurance companies have been raising rates well beyond inflation. Several state governments, see California for example, took them to court to prevent this. We are talking of 60-70% rate hikes here... and it has zero to do with Obama or the Health Caer bill. In Cali it was taken on by the INSURANCE COMMISSIONER.

There a little more bone to the complexity.

Problem is that most people in this country are blaming the state for not being able t control the private sector, which was deregulated by the usual suspects.

[onethatcares]

6. ask her how she's gonna pay for her "tumours" without healthcare

and who the hell is the Speaker Nan? Did boner go tranny on us?

[socialshockwave]

8. I think this was written back when the Dems controlled Congress.

I mean, I know that sometimes she spews right-wing talking points like they're going out of style - but she's a dear friend and I don't like seeing her so upset.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. well thank you for coming here and sharing her right wing talking points

really, very helpful of you.

[socialshockwave]

16. ???

I'm not sharing anything. I honest to God didn't know how to respond.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. If she can't afford health insurance, that's the GOP's fault.

Two words. Single Payer.

[lunatica]

9. No one gets free healthcare in the US

That happens in your country, maybe.

It might be a cute poem, but it's not based in reality.

[socialshockwave]

11. Well, she said to me

that "when unemployed people are getting free health care while I work my ass off and can't get my own health care it's not right".

[lunatica]

13. She's full of shit

They may have to go to the emergency room, but even then they're being turned away.

[Ineeda]

20. She's wrong on this.

One of the primary freak-outs about being unemployed (other than paying your bills and, well, surviving) is losing health care insurance. Again, she's WRONG!!

[patrice]

10. Unemployed getting free health care? Where do I sign up?

[FarLeftFist]

15. Maybe we should have YOUR healthcare.

[socialshockwave]

18. Hey, I'd be in favor

of Canadian style health care in the US - but there'd be too much backlash.

It's worked here but that's cause we've had it for decades.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. If it works because it is decades old, it follows that when it was

new, it worked because it was good. Citing the age of the program as the reason it works is illogical, to say the least.

[patrice]

17. I do not like those who make everything about what they don't like. Where's her rational

facts that validate something objective? Or are all of us supposed to kow-tow to the emotional tantrums of a someone who appears to be about 6 years old?

[XanaDUer]

19. I'm sorry she has tumors

Are they on her brain?

[Ineeda]

22. You're bad!

[XanaDUer]

24. Well, they could be

:shrug:

I cannot account for the free-health-insurance-for-the-unemployed-here-in-Our-Great-Country line, otherwise.

[Ineeda]

26. I'm going to laugh about your question all night!

But it could explain all the RW lunacy. An epidemic.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. tell her to get a fucking grip.

the crooks stealing her $ were the ones who funneled a trillion dollars in no-bid contracts into the sinkhole of Iraq.

[patrice]

27. GUARANTEED cost + 15%, no bid contracts in Iraq. Spend WHATEVER & we'll cut you a check for that

plus 15%.

:grr:

[patrice]

28. Speaking of an OFF BUDGET 8 year spending spree on top of Tax Cuts.

The effect of Tax Cuts is like "Oh, we are just not going to make our full monthly payments on our credit cards."

Then add to that, "We are going to pretend that we are NOT charging 8 years worth of war."

IN-FUCKING-SANE!

[housewolf]

25. "Unemployed gettig free health care"????

My unemployment insurance just ran out last month and I never got "free health care" while I was on it. Yes, I did have some help with my Cobra payment for a while but I still had all the deductables, co-pays, etc that all other insured people get. I've never gotten free healthcare. If she's referring to uninsured folks having getting care in the emergency room, that's "emergency treatment" and not by any stretch of the imagination comprehensive "free healthcare". It doesn't cover any preventative treatment, for example. If she's talking about Medicaid , you have to go through an extensive application process and actually be destitute in order to be approved. It's because we decided as a nation that we wanted to protect vulnerable individuals from suffering from treatable diseases and the society at large from things like contagious diseases, which the Medicaid folks can receive vaccines for. That protects all of us. It's still not comprehensive health care.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. it comes with the free bon-bons, vodka, and late term abortions.

PARTY!!! :party:

[patrice]

29. Ask her what she knows about the WARS spending spreed. nt

[southernyankeebelle]

31. Like most its a daily struggle. This america is not the america I remember as a child. Maybe

god is punishing us because some don't want to help others. You see republicans and baggers do not think health insurance is a right. We are in deep trouble. We have a good president but he isn't a fighter. I don't know when he is going to show a spine. The working poor are in trouble. I see no one help them.

[Bluenorthwest]

33. The tumors must be from being so full of retained shit

The unemployed do not get any health care here if they can not pay for it. She's an insane liar, basically. Please tell her so. Also, the Speaker of the House is Republican John Boehner. Her 'work' needs an update.