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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:50 AM
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Green Day Singer: "Just got kicked off a southwest flight because my pants sagged too low! WTF?"
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 10:52 AM by kpete
Green Day Singer Kicked Off Flight for Baggy Pants
BILLIE JOE ARMSTRONG REFUSES SOUTHWEST REQUEST TO PULL THEM UP

By John Johnson, Newser Staff
Posted Sep 3, 2011 6:12 AM CDT

NEWSER) – Green Day's Billie Joe Armstrong learned about airline security the hard way: He got booted off his Southwest Airlines flight this week because he refused to hike up his baggy pants, reports San Francisco's ABC 7. When a flight attendant asked him to comply before takeoff, he responded, "Don't you have better things to do than worry about that?" He and his traveling partner were eventually taken off the plane.

"Just got kicked off a southwest flight because my pants sagged too low! What the f**k? No joke!" Armstrong tweeted Thursday. Southwest followed up with an apologetic tweet to him, and Armstrong was able to catch the next flight to Burbank.

http://www.newser.com/story/127611/green-day-singer-billie-joe-armstrong-is-kicked-off-his-southwest-flight-for-baggy-pants.html
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/entertainment&id=8340307
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:52 AM
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1. "Rocker and regional airline combine forces to gain free publicity"
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:56 AM
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3. Maybe....
:shrug:

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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:58 AM
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4. During a weekend of supposedly record numbers of travellers DRIVING instead of flying, I'd say
the timing would seem to support your hypothesis.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 10:56 AM
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2. The only thing more stupid than sagging pants as a fad....
is kicking someone out because of wearing them. Lots of "fashion" trends don't appeal to me, but :wtf:

Rethug authoritarian control freaks at Southwestern?
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:03 PM
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31. This country is full of authoritarian control freaks. On the left and right. I pity them.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:01 AM
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5. Good grief!
What's next? :eyes:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:11 AM
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6. Is Billie having his mid-life Crisis?
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digitaln3rd Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:13 AM
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7. As much as I like Green Day..
Billie Joe is, what, 40 now?

The baggy pants phase was never cool.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:15 AM
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:45 PM
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25. Honestly. Who gives a fuck? It's a pair of pants. The guy likes them. It's still a free (almost)
country! Dammit. This country is in a Depression and people are worrying about what some guy wears? :( It's just ridiculous.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:00 PM
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27. Who cares?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:14 AM
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:33 AM
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10. I got kicked out of a restaurant once for hair over my ears.
I was nine. Owner said no long-haired boys allowed.

I hope he shuts Southwest down. Fucking fascists. And shame on anyone supporting the airline on this.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 04:57 PM
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46. Fascist? Shut down the airline?
Okay...
I just don't think it is that big a deal.
Either way.
Chill out, let him where his pants.
Or, pull your damn pants up, choose another airline next time.
Plenty of fascists in Washington doing real, permanent damage. The far right never runs out of them, constant supply.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:55 PM
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53. You don't think it's a big deal that a private company can discriminate based on appearance?
Sorry, I do. Very strongly.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:37 AM
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11. He "talked back"
TSA people seem to have mega-power when someone dares to confront them.. This is a lesson people have to learn in the current scheme of things.. If it's important to you to buck the "system" to say your piece, do so, but be aware that you may not be able to fly..

It sucks, but that seems to be the way things are now..
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:43 AM
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13. It wasn't TSA, it was the airline. Southwest has a habit of treating people like shit.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:40 AM
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12. I don't get it ....... was he being obscene and flashing his butt? It didn't
say he was. What business is it of anyone's if he chooses baggy pants?
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:46 AM
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14. "Don't you have something more important you should be doing?"
Good comeback Billie. That attendent was American Idiot redux.

Either she didn't know who he is, or maybe she did and doesn't appreciate his message during the Bush years. Perhaps that crewmember just helped write the next Green Day hit.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:11 PM
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38. Maybe HE could have been doing something important?
It seems SHE was doing her job. Maybe if people didn't have to bother with idiots making stupid stands over dumb things, more important things can be tended to?

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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 04:44 PM
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44. It seems management sided with Armstrong.
The attendant was likely chastized and reminded that first class seats are very expensive in such a competitive business.

If she was "just doing her job" as you say, I imagine she'll do it differently from now on.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 06:01 PM
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47. She shouldn't have to cater to rich, spoiled celebrities.
Still doesn't make it right.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:57 PM
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54. People hired to cater to customers don't have to cater to customers?
Hunh. I'd have thought they did.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:13 PM
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72. They have to do their jobs?
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 12:14 PM by Darth_Kitten
The customer is not always right? It DOES happen, you know?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:53 PM
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65. Since when does Southwest have first class seating?
:shrug:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:08 PM
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76. "didn't know who he is"? Your post implies the Green Day lead singer should be treated differently
than other people?

Fuck him. He's no one special. Who cares what he said during the bush years. Those years are over, or haven't you heard?

So the lead singer of a second-rate band gets special treatment because of who he dislikes? I find that laughable.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:46 AM
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15. Yes, they treat customers like shit and then apologize to celebrities.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:49 AM
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16.  I D I O T......



...When you board a commercial airlines you by the contract of your ticket are to comply with whatever reasonable directive that a company REP gives...even though you pay money to fly on their aircraft you still have to comply.

I hope he gets violated by the local authorities or TSA.

What an IDIOT.

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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:08 PM
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36. "I hope he gets violated by the local authorities or TSA." - just wow. beyond the pale.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 04:52 PM
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45. Agree. That was a disgusting thing to say. /nt
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:30 PM
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51. Violated...as in raped? Doesn't that seem like a severe reaction for not pulling up his pants?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:45 PM
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61. Hilarious. So once you pay for something you sign away all your
rights and become an instant slave of the 'business' you are a customer of? What if they didn't like the color of his skin? Should he stay home?

The idiot was the person who made a big deal over a pair of pants. An authoritarian. There seem to be an awful lot of them around these days.

Good that the company sided with him. I hope the authoritarian idiot who thought s/he had the right to tell people what to wear, learned to mind their own business regarding other people's choices of fashion.
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ProgressoDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:52 AM
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17. Just pull up your damn pants. n/t
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:08 PM
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35. +10000000000000
Exactly.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:20 PM
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41. uh.... his damn pants are none of your damn business.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 06:04 PM
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48. Apparently they were a major issue for the mouthy son of a bitch.
Geez, he needs to get over himself.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:47 PM
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62. Looks more like they were a major issue for the authoritarian idiot
who should have had other things to do. Looks like he was vindicated by the airline and got on the next plane with no problem.

No authoritarian idiot on plane = no problem with passengers' choice of clothing. Simple.
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ProgressoDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 11:53 PM
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67. Come on, they were only trying to avoid bad press.
Really. Forget if he had to get off the plane in a hurry --- the airline has a right to have a flight without everyone having to see Billie's ass cheeks.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:11 PM
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71. Uh, she's paid to do a job, how does that make the worker an idiot?
:eyes: She's not the mouthy idiot making a stand because he's too lazy to pull up his pants.

Authoritarian? :rofl: Get real.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:35 PM
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73. Looks like she didn't do her job very well since the Airline
took the side of the passenger. Hopefully she learned how to do her better as a result and to keep her own personaly fashion preferences out of her job.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:02 PM
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75. Authoritarian much? nt
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ProgressoDem Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:33 PM
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78. Yes. I'm a total authoritarian.
In fact, I love Kent State. THIS IS JUST LIKE THAT TO ME.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:17 PM
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18. IF IF IF for some reason I have to get off the plane in a damned hurry
the LAST thing I'd want in front of me is some guy whose saggy pants may fall around his ankles as 100 people behind him are trying to evacuate.

To me it's a safety issue, period.
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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:31 PM
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60. Thank you,. Voice of reason. nt
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 08:32 PM by cordelia
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:49 PM
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63. Did you forget a snark tag?
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:55 PM
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66.  it's a safety issue, period.
OMG!

:rofl:

RL
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:15 PM
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77. If he fell down in front of me in a life and death situation because of his baggy pants...
he'd die with one size 11 shoeprint on his ass, and another between his shoulder blades.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:25 PM
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19. I am so happy I don't have to fly on planes for my job!
Sounds like really shitty service.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:28 PM
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20. Why is he flying Southwest?
Is he broke?
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:31 PM
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52. I was kind of wondering the same thing...
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:51 PM
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64. Musicians often make very little money.
Especially if they're working for a major label. It's completely possible to sell a million records and owe the label thousands for the "privilege" of making them money.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:28 PM
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21. One stupid fad
I can't wait to see fade away.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:12 PM
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39. ditto -
one of the more ignorant and blindingly STUPID fads. Ranks up with birdcage hair. Probably the only fad worse, is foot-binding.

Sometimes, I just want to go yank their damn pants down, point and laugh. I told my boys if I ever saw them "sagging" - I would pull down their britches. Thank god they see the absolute moronic idiocy of it.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:15 PM
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49. Yeah really and it seems like that fad is on at least it's 16 minute.
I'll never understand why a young person wants to wear something big and baggy while they still have a good figure. Save the baggy till you're out of shape and need to hide the flab.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 12:33 PM
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:01 PM
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28. Wow. Is this free republic? Sounds like it to me.
Btw I can say it too.."dumb fuck". How far is that pole stuck up your ass? Lmao.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:33 PM
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34. I know.
People here are blaming Armstrong's archaic fashion choice instead of wondering why a flight attendent would refuse to swallow pride and deliver the kind of customer service that a competing airline would expect.

Regardless of the opinions posted here, since the airline appologised the flight attendent probably got an earful from corporate about how little they care about the manner of dress for first class passengers. It would appear most posters here would have kicked Armstrong off the plane and told him to not come back until he properly obtained a pair of khakis and Birkenstocks.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:28 PM
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42. First class passngers? Are you familiar with Southwest?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:05 PM
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59. First class? SWA doesn't have first class.
Cattle car all the way.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:09 PM
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37. haha! +10000000000
Thanks for the chuckle. :)
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:47 PM
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43. jeez, how old are YOU?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:19 PM
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23. I wouldn't kick his stupid ass off the plane, but
I'd be happy to lead the other passengers in the waiting area at the gate in a few choruses of "Pants on the Ground." A little public humiliation goes a long way toward people doing sensible things. People have the right to dress as they choose. Other people have the right to express their distaste for that manner of dress. Rights are super cool!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:02 PM
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29. Public humiliation, eh? Really?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:13 PM
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32. Sure. It's a much my right as it is his to wear his baggy pants low.
Everyone has rights. Whether you exercise them or not is a decision. I wouldn't really do that, but I could if I wished. It is my right.

You see my point? If not, there it is...
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:23 AM
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68. Ugh! Public humiliation?
And for the 'crime' of wearing something someone disapproves of?

I wonder what Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams might think of what they fought and nearly died for.

What is not sensible, in a supposedly free country about wearing the kind of clothes you feel most comfortable in?

So now, along with Rapiscans, we have Fashion Police deciding who can fly and who can not.

Who needs terrorists to 'take away our freedoms'?



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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 01:42 PM
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24. ...
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:03 PM
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30. HA!
:rofl:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:00 PM
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26. It's very sad. I don't care what someone wears. People in this country are just so uptight.
Can't stand uptight people.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 03:18 PM
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40. did you read some of the comments, even in this very thread?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-11 03:24 PM by inna
in-sane in the membrane. :wow:


it's not even about being uptight, it's about an authoritarian mindset, with all the repercussions.


ETA: i just read your other comment in this thread; had exactly the same reaction as you did - even though i didn't post anything.

oh well... as long as people care and are paying attention... not all is lost. :toast:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:59 PM
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55. It's the puritan thing -
this country was founded by them (some in my own family as well - much to my embarrassment!).

People need to lighten up a little.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 02:15 PM
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33. I looked up SWA's Contract of Carriage.
It says they can deny boarding to any passenger who presents a safety hazard, or whose clothing is "lewd, obscene, or patently offensive."

If the guy's butt crack was showing, or if his pants were so baggy they could have been unsafe in an evacuation, they were within their rights under the contract of carriage. However, they should have told the guy what the reason was. Doesn't sound like they did that. It does sound like an FA didn't like his fashion statement; SWA is rather infamous for being uptight about passengers' clothing.

I'm a bit curious about just exactly how droopy the pants really were.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:19 PM
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50. Baggy pants are butt-ugly
still if you removed everybody off a plane for their ugly fashions there probably wouldn't be anyone left on the plane. x(
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 07:59 PM
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56. GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!11
Time better spent looking for real threats.

If there is gonna be a 'Pants Police" there are a bunch more offenses that would have to be addressed.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:02 PM
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57. Obviously, it's a good thing "So Fine" jeans never really caught on...
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-11 08:03 PM
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58. Nobody wants to see your underwear, Billie Joe. nt
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 01:56 PM
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74. Speak for yourself!
He's got lots of fans who probably would and do pay to see it!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:27 AM
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69. Way to go Billie Joe
at least he wasn't flying first class.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:29 AM
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70. A 40 year old white male millionaire. Stick it to the man Billie!
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