Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The "memorial" has become a pep rally

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:43 PM
Original message
The "memorial" has become a pep rally
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 09:06 PM by bbinacan
for Tucson and the University of Arizona. Please.:eyes:

on edit: The speakers are more concerned with promoting Tucson, U of A and Arizona.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:44 PM
Response to Original message
1. It was never billed as a funeral.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:45 PM
Response to Original message
2. For a somber event, there's a lot of cheering.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Agreed. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
30. Yeah, not a fan of that really. Wish people would show a bit more respect and decorum.
It's just the way I was brought up. 6 people are dead here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #30
50. What a bunch of pissy pants there are around here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #50
68. Ignoring that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
56. "It's just the way I was brought up." Me, too. I hear you. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
3. Your concern is noted.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
Original message
Bwahahaha. Haven't used that response in a while. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #3
59. Your concern of
my concern is noted.:evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #59
66. I am not concerned with your concern. I merely noted it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
5. It's just college kids making the cheers. Cut them some slack. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #5
69. No. They should be smart enough to know better.
Spoiled little fucks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sylvi Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #69
74. Yep n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
6. Not Many Memorials Have 15,000 People...
To those who want to find something wrong here, they're going to find it. Totally missing the messages being said on stage. But then they weren't paying attention anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. and on a college campus while classes are still in session. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
7. Sister and I just switched to DVR. Frankly these two Democrats are appalled....n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #7
18. sounds like a tent revival.
Came in from the laundry room w/ Napalitano quotin' scripture, then Holder evoking Jay-sis - little out of step for a Congressperson w/ Jewish heritage.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
37. It is not just about
Congresswoman Giffords. It is just as much, if not ,more, a memorial for the dead, and it appears at least most of them were Christians.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #18
40. I agree. This is just weird.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
8. Memorials are a celebration of life as much as they are of the lives that have been lost.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. same here..and it's disrupting Obama's speech too
It;s too bad that someone at the university did not tell the students that this was not a basketball game or pep rally & that they need not whoop & holler..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. You've never been to an Irish wake, I'm guessing?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #23
64. My mother's family name is O'Shea
no wakes in this Irish family..just a High Mass..no cheering clapping
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #64
75. When my Irish mother died, the family spent a lot of time celebrating the life she led.
And, since she was a happy, loving, outgoing person, that celebration was full of happiness, love & hope. Sure we were saddened by her passing, it was more than made up for in the joy we felt in knowing her.

I can't remember Mom feeling tears, but I can't remember her without feel laughter, either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #8
28. Yes memorials are are a celebration
of life. I don't need a commercial for Tucson, U of A, or Arizona.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
9. Judging by what I'm hearing, more like a revival meeting.
Holder and Obama both waxing religious.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
10. I find the outburst as inappropriate. Maybe it's me. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tveil Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #10
36. You can tell The President was uncomfortable with it
Very ignorant crowd
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
11. These children have not been taught the etiquette of memorial services
As was said above, cut them some slack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
12. Please slap me if I ever criticize people for grieving wrong. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. Me too. and TY n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. exactly. trauma and horror.... so they are doing it the way some want. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #12
26. Thank you for the most sensible post on this thread. (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #12
31. Yep, and me, too.
Be sure it's hard enough to remove the stick from my ass when you do it, too.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #12
46. And me. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #12
65. Word, tisha. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
76. Thank you. DU finds exciting ways to sink to new lows at just about every turn.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
14. I remember fans cheering Elton John at Princess Di's funeral
He acted pretty grossed out by it. I don't mind the celebratory applause for statements about unity and transcendance, but howling like it's the Duke basketball game that I'm turning to in 11 minutes? Bleech.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:50 PM
Response to Original message
16. What's the problem?
Do you think the families and dead would object to celebration of life??

I am quite thankful my mother's memorial was joyful, had singing, laughter, cheering, clapping and back-slapping.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. +1000 n.t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
29. Yep.
I hope I get a memorial like that when my time comes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #29
44. I should be so lucky...
and it would definitely bless my family and friends. ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #16
34. I don't know about these particular families, but if someone had
laughed, cheered, clapped, or back-slapped at my dad's memorial, my mother would have been extremely offended. Not all people grieve the same way.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #34
45. Well, that's too bad.
What are you going to do, stand there and scold them??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #45
52. My mom was in a state of grief and shock. It's a year and a half
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 09:03 PM by LibDemAlways
later and she's still consumed by grief. Yes, she would have reamed someone she thought was making light of the situation up and down through the tears. Sorry, but that's just how it is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #52
58. How are they making light of it?
But remember, this isn't your family member's memorial. If you don't want cheering don't have a ceremony in a college auditorium, stay in a cold dark church.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. If this is ok with those families, fine. I wouldn't be
Edited on Wed Jan-12-11 09:15 PM by LibDemAlways
so quick to pass judgment on people you don't know. Who said anything about a cold dark church?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. It seems to me that YOU are the one passing judgement.
But hey, this isn't about me or you--it's about the families and friends there in Tucson.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #16
48. +1000 again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:51 PM
Response to Original message
17. they actually cheered when brewer said "and of course we lost christina green"
it was weird.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. They were cheering for her life, not her death.
And they were trying to support her family in whatever way they could.

I agree that it was awkward.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
22. What Obama is doing now is truly healing. Finally, making it personal re all the victims.
He has created an appropriate tone now. This is why I am proud that he is our president.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
25. You are now officially univited to my wake, where there better be
laughter, dancing, clapping, drinking, and lots of stories about all the shit I said and did while I was alive. I don't want tears, I don't want sorrow, I want those who knew me to say they were glad they knew me. Please don't come and spoil my party!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #25
43. You missed the point.
At my wake, I want a keg of beer. What I don't want is a sales pitch about Tucson, U of A, or Arizona.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #43
53. Oh, you can do that too at my memorial. I am a native of Arizona!
And one keg won't be enough at my wake. I don't feel I have the right to tell others they must grieve, or celebrate those they've lost. You clearly feel differently.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #25
47. +10000
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
27. Maybe that's what they need. Catharsis.
They play music and dance at New Orleans funerals to celebrate the life that was lived.

They are applauding and celebrating who the honorees WERE as living people. I don't see a problem with that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #27
38. yes. this is what i was trying to think of. four days of the horror. saying no hate
diversity in a time of them against us. letting pres know he is welcome....

i can see it
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
32. It is NOT a funeral. They are honoring the victims.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
Response to Original message
33. It's a celebration of life and remembrance
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:56 PM
Response to Original message
35. Not since the President began speaking....
He got the mood back to the right place.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 PM
Response to Original message
39. Cannot watch.
Too much political promotion.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #39
57. Where?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:57 PM
Response to Original message
41. You do realize that among the vicitims there are survivors too, don't you?
This is not a funeral.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #41
49. I know it's not a funeral.
I just don't need a commercial right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #49
67. This wasn't about you. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 08:58 PM
Response to Original message
42. been a long, dark week in tucson
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #42
55. this is how i see it. may look imappropriate, but these people have been living in it. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:02 PM
Response to Original message
51. I disagree
strongly! It opened with "Fanfare for the Common Man" this should be a fanfare for hope and spirit. The cheering is totally appropriate. Fanfare, celebration of life, praising of hero's. It is as it should be.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:05 PM
Response to Original message
54. So I'm old fashioned, but I don't like all of the applauding and cheering at a memorial service.
As my grandmother would say, "It ain't fittin'".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #54
62. Your grandmother had a lot of common sense.
Something that seems to be in short supply these days.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #54
71. My grandma would have said the same thing.
She was the "lace curtain Irish" form of hypocrite.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tveil Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:09 PM
Response to Original message
60. Great speech in spite of the audience nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #60
72. I agree. i think he gave a very good speech. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
70. Concern noted...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sylvi Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-11 09:40 PM
Response to Original message
73. Perhaps they should've hired the Blue Man Group, too
Maybe booked Gallagher to bust a few watermelons onstage
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 07:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC