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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:54 AM
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Win A Giffords County Glock
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/09/01-0

09.01.11 - 10:53 AM
Arizona Glock: Tickets Will Go Quickly For This Firearm!
by Abby Zimet

The competition was tough, but today's Tone-Deaf Award goes to Arizona's GOP, which is holding a fundraising raffle. First prize: a Glock handgun, like the one used to shoot Gabrielle Giffords in the head. The raffle is in Pima County, where the shooting took place.

The raffle gun comes preloaded with three 12-round magazines. Glock USA describes the model as "a slightly reduced size of a full-size handgun for easier concealment but still retains the performance of a serious big bore."



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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:13 AM
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1. Gee, they could of doubled the ticket sale if Jared Lee Loughner's autograph was on it
They could of also included a 'how to' video to help budding assassins. <./sarcasm>

This is an obvious boast these perps have no class, maturity or good taste. IT will come back to haunt them if anyone else is shot with one of thee handguns. These people are revolting.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:42 AM
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2. There'll be no shortage of idiots who will buy tickets
Guaranteed.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:50 AM
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3. This is about the 10th thread on this
most of them have been locked
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:53 AM
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4. :shrug:
Glocks are probably the single most popular handgun brand in the country. They're like the Toyota of handguns.

Having one for a raffle is hardly surprising. Hell, I've bought raffle tickets for one myself, at a fire-department fundraiser in Minnesota.

Didn't win, though.





(And yeah, it hurts a little to say that the most popular handgun in America is , headquartered, designed and made in Austria, and the most popular car brand in America is headquartered and designed in Japan and built in Japan and America) :-(
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:05 AM
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8. You'd think that the GOP would show a little "patriotism" and use a US built gun in their raffle.

But this isn't really about "patriotism" for them so much as it is sending an intimidating message to the opposition.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:20 AM
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9. You're probably reading too much into it.
Stuff like this will draw lots of people's money for a $10 ticket, that's all.


I agree that repubes tend to be giant assholes, but there are probably a dozen such raffles going on at any one time. This one is drawing attention because a) it's in Gifford's district, and b) it's the same model as the one that whats-his-face used.


If it was only a) or b) it would not have drawn any attention whatsoever.
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digitaln3rd Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:26 AM
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11. Yes, but a Toyota's sole purpose isn't to kill.
So there's really no comparison between the two.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:53 AM
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13. Then your issue is likely guns in general.
Which is a different topic for which DU has an entire forum for. Second most popular topic forum, too.


The OP is addressed the social panic of having a specific make and model of handgun being raffled off in a specific geographical territory, and I was addressing the OP on those lines.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:55 AM
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5. My son has a Glock 23. I think its junk, many plastic parts. He loves it though.
Compared to my Beretta, or my wife's, its real junk. To tell you the truth its sort of large and clunky too so its not much good for concealed carry. His came with the Brady-Bill 10-round magazines but I managed to find him a pair of 13-rounders and gave them to him for Christmas last year.

Anyway if you were thinking about buying one I'd recommend against it. For not much more money you can get a much better made pistol, one more likely to retain its value or even grow with time.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:53 AM
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10. I had a Beretta and a Glock 19... I ended up keeping the glock.
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 10:57 AM by OneTenthofOnePercent
The glock was MUCH better as a carry pistol.

Berettas are fatter, taller, wider, heavier, and have a shorter sight radius than a glock 19 - all while holding the same amount of rounds. I always thought that Berettas were heavy & oversized which was a big deal for me when choosing what pistol to carry. I eventually ended up never using or carrying the beretta and when I felt like carrying a big heavy pistol I just carried 45acp. Not to mention that Glock's popularity ensure a ton of spare & custom parts for people who like a little originality. Plus you can change calibers with a barrel change and you can step up capacity by just inserting a bigger mag.

I'm not saying beretta is bad... it was a nice gun (smoother slide action and nice trigger).
But for what i wanted I felt the glock was better. It's very utilitarian.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:02 AM
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6. In before somebody says that in Arizona you need a gun for protection from coyotes.

Because only the exact model of Glock .45 that shot Rep Giffords and about 2 dozen others will do and not a more traditional "varmint" gun like a .22 rifle.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 10:04 AM
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7. It's not the exact model..
Loughner used a Glock 19, the one being raffled off is a Glock 23..
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 11:28 AM
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12. A "Glock .45" is not what was used to shoot Rep Giffords
A Glock 19 (9mm) was used. And this auction is offerig a Glock 23 (.40s&w) which has nothing to do with either.

Glocks are very popular pistols. Its a good coice to attract more people to the auction.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:56 PM
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14. The early report I read said it was a .45 caliber Glock (which apparently is the 21). But it seems

you are correct that it was a 19/9mm. Ruger, Smith & Wesson, and Colt all offer very popular pistols too, made right here in the US of A.
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