Angry House Dems Request Pre-Speech Meeting With Obama

[neoconn]

Source: TPM

The chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and of the three caucuses of black, Hispanic and Asian members of the House would like a word with President Obama before his Thursday jobs address.

In a Tuesday letter provided by a source, the leaders, who speak for a majority of House Dems, sought to make sure that Obama keeps his eye on the jobs crisis, which has disproportionately hit minority groups.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/angry-house-dems-request-pre-speech-meeting-with-obama.php?ref=fpb

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Stick it to him.....

[Skittles]

1. he won't listen to them any more than he listens to us

[JoePhilly]

9. Yes, he hates them.

spare us.

[trueblue2007]

18. Your remark is STUPID. not even based on fact.

prove your statement. Where is documentation that President Obama hates minorites?

THERE IS NONE BECAUSE YOUR STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE.

[Skittles]

25. I believe it is sarcasm

and no, Obama doesn't hate them, but he doesn't give a fuck what they think either

[Whisp]

65. and what gives you that special insight

jeesus.

[Lorien]

69. Open eyes, I suspect. nt

[Name removed]

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[dennis4868]

79. Insight, facts?

NOT NEEDED HERE BROTHER! you are in DU...we live on HYPERSPECULATION 24/7

[Bake]

70. Le's see ... taking money and marching orders from Wall Street?

Yeah, that pretty much equates to it.

Bake

[swilton]

59. But, but...

80% of Dems support President Obama :sarcasm:

[closeupready]

61. I'd heard it was more like 370%.

Maybe the truth lies somewhere in the middle? :sarcasm:

[Lorien]

67. Nope, he won't. They don't have millions to spend on his next campaign

the only people he listens to are wealthy corporations.

[julian09]

71. They have the votes he needs

[RBInMaine]

82. More tripe from the fringe. Yawn.

[Name removed]

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[Enrique]

3. interesting about the letter

but where did Beutler get "angry?" That seems especially out of place with the picture they used of Rep. Grijalva. :rofl:

[Fumesucker]

4. The Angry Progressives Request A Meeting..

:rofl:

:cry:

[jberryhill]

6. It was a firmly stated request

[TwilightGardener]

5. "Angry" sounds like creative license by the writer.

[Major Hogwash]

20. Then you haven't seen Representative Maxine Waters lately.

She's not a happy camper by any means.
She said last month that the tea party can go to hell.

[TwilightGardener]

22. Right. I'd heard that. But the headline implies they are angry at Obama

and are requesting a meeting because they are angry with him. The text does not indicate that.

[Major Hogwash]

24. They are.

Doesn't matter how you parse that headline, some of them are plenty pissed off at Obama for backing away from fighting the right on several dozen issues that they are actively engaged in in their own districts.
Maxine said a lot about the 40% unemployment in her district amongst blacks and she wasn't knitting booties for anyone's grandkids when she sounded off about that this weekend on Meet the Press.

[TwilightGardener]

26. OK, again, I thought they had some immediate and specific reason

to be pissed and wanted to see the President about it. I understand they may be pissed in general, but the headline implied that they were suddenly angry about something.

[Bluebear]

50. It implied nothing sudden in the least

[coalition_unwilling]

31. I watched Waters on local news here in LA and believe she

said (at least on the local news I saw) that the unemployment rate in Watts was 40%. She made no claim at all about the overall black unemployment rate.

N.B. That rate as of the end of August stood at some 16.2%, as calculated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. I don't mean to diminish the severity of the economic crisis for the nation's blacks: the 16.2% national unemployment rate for black Americans is almost twice what it is for the nation as a whole (9.1%).

[Major Hogwash]

46. Yes, that's what Waters said about it.

She wasn't talking about the OVERALL BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE -- which is TWICE as high as it is for WHITE PEOPLE!!

She was talking about the BLACKS IN HER DISTRICT, THE ONE THAT SHE REPRESENTS.

Maybe enlarging the words will help, I don't know.

[coalition_unwilling]

52. Oops, sorry, missed your mention of her district on my first pass. Think

I must be getting tired, as it seems my eyes skipped right over the words :)

I remember being struck enough by Waters' forthrightness that I posted an OP about it here on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1769647

I live next door in the district Dianne Watson used to represent and Karen Bass now represents (the 33rd). Bass is simply awesome - could not ask for a better Rep.

[Claudia Jones]

28. no it doesn't

For example, a headline could read "joyous athletes meet with mayor" and that would not necessarily mean that the athletes are joyous about the mayor.

[Number23]

42. I was just about to say that same thing. There is absolutely nothing angry in this article

or in the PDF letter from the caucuses. They are respectful and rather polite actually.

Unrec

[Major Hogwash]

44. Oh, so being blind has enhanced your ability to not see.

Interesting.

[Number23]

45. Is this supposed to be deep or witty?

[Major Hogwash]

47. Damn, you sure are smart.

You figured it out in just 1 night!!

[Number23]

48. I haven't figure out anything that you've written

And it's afternoon where I am.

[Supersedeas]

68. creativity is only part of it

[jaxx]

7. Stick it to who?

[Riley18]

8. Where does it say "angry" house dems? Those congressional

representatives have a duty to communicate with the president.

[Bluebear]

10. Right in the headline

[Bluebear]

11. .

[Bluebear]

57. .

[kenny blankenship]

12. They must want President Palin!

Why can't they learn to participate vicariously in Obama's personal success and let that be good enough for them and the folks back home?

[ClarkUSA]

13. House Dems have yet to attack their GOP colleagues. They'd much rather whine about this President.

Same with firebaggers.

[RandomKoolzip]

14. Prove it.

[ClarkUSA]

15. Google is your friend. Start with Dennis Kucinich aka. St. Dennis of Syria.

Then go read Firedoglake.

[RandomKoolzip]

16. Jane Hamsher is a House Dem?

Prove it.

[ClarkUSA]

17. Um, no. Reread what I said in Reply #42.

Note the phrase ---> "Same with firebaggers."

[DisgustipatedinCA]

19. I need to see a link for your Prove It quote.

Otherwise, you've got nothing, and you're just trying to get President JD Hayworth elected so he can put Darryl Issa and Sharon Angle on the Supreme Court.

;)

[RandomKoolzip]

56. Prove it.

;)

[Major Hogwash]

21. Sure they did. Pelosi reprimanded some of them for speaking out.

She wants a nice quiet coup.

[Claudia Jones]

29. are you kidding??

"House Dems have yet to attack their GOP colleagues??" You need to pay closer attention. Need we post links to videos of the hundreds of scathing attacks on the Republicans from the House floor over the last few years?

[ClarkUSA]

30. When have they attacked GOPers at press conferences or in press releases or to the media?

They sure whine all the time about what President Obama isn't doing when they can't even get any liberal legislation past the House!

[Claudia Jones]

32. just about every day

You are embarrassing yourself.

[ClarkUSA]

33. Prove it. Quotes from credible sources from the past 365 days?

[Claudia Jones]

34. ok

First Congressperson I checked, first page of press releases at his site:

Nadler Blasts Republican Deficit Hysteria, Will Introduce Legislation to Repeal Debt Ceiling

Today, Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) denounced the current GOP-driven deficit obsession and its preclusion of government action to lift the nation out of the ongoing recession. He proposed legislation, which he will introduce soon, to repeal the federal debt ceiling.

http://nadler.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1705&Itemid=132

As I said, there are hundreds more like this.

[ClarkUSA]

36. That's pretty wimped out. Where are the daily red meat press soundbites to the media?

Why aren't House Dems always taking it directly to their Teabagger Republican colleagues?

[Name removed]

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[Marr]

66. What the hell are you talking about? They do it all the time.

That comment was just absurd.

[unkachuck]

23. I would think....

....the Prez would welcome the opportunity to speak with his Base, especially on important issues that concern jobs....after all, we will be the people re-electing him.

[spanone]

27. 'stick it to him' ?

[scentopine]

35. Best way to get representation from Obama is to be a republican or tea bagger, he'll

even adjust his schedule to talk when it is most convenient for you.

The Democratic Party Leadership is chasing Republicans like sailors on shore leave after two three years lost at sea.

But, whatever you do, don't mention the 'L' words. You'll be tossed overboard.

[WillyT]

37. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[RetroLounge]

38. Everyone chill the fuck out

Obama has got this...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

:puke:

RL

[QC]

39. They are all fringe leftists who want President Perry. n/t

[Bluebear]

40. I thought it was president Palin!

Or bachmann!!!

:cry:

[QC]

58. It depends on who is scariest at any given moment. n/t

[Lunabelle]

74. Bachman always gets the scariest vote.

She's just creepy.

[QC]

77. I agree. Perhaps it's the eyes, but she is far and away the creepiest. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

41. Get a clue, House Dems! "Obama, Romney jobs plans reveal deep philosophical divide"

Source: CBS News

"The Obama administration has severely restricted domestic energy production," wrote Romney. The Chamber agrees, saying that "almost 190,000 new jobs could be created by 2013 if permitting in the Gulf of Mexico for offshore development returned to pre-moratorium levels."

The administration has also focused on domestic energy production, but has focused its efforts on alternative sources of energy. While the administration has been slow to re-open drilling permits it issued before the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, it has been fervent in pushing for green energy, pushing for the expansion of solar and wind energy technology in the U.S., what they call the energy of the 21st century.

* * *

Where the big differences lie are in the role of government and regulation.

* * *

Additionally, the Romney campaign said in a fact sheet put out today that the candidate would go even further. "Mitt Romney will act swiftly to tear down the vast edifice of regulations the Obama Administration has imposed on the economy," it said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4986857

[Number23]

43. Clark, you know that I've got your back

but on this, I think you should step back and actually read what the caucuses are saying.

Here's the PDF - http://talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2011/09/progressives-minority-members-push-obama-to-demand-real-jobs-plan.php?page=1

These are legitimate issues that they are raising. Their letter is respectful and actually, quite polite! I unrec'd this OP because the idiot who wrote this editorialized the word "angry." We've all seen the news lately. If these folks are angry at anyone it's the Tea Party and the republicans, not the president. Contrary to the moist dreams of far too many on DU, the CBC and even the progressive caucus are not on a tear to take down this president. They are not overly critical.

The vast majority of the time, members of the CBC state unequivocally that they have this president's back. Even when they are critical of him, their comments are always tempered with much respect as well as an acknowledgement of what this president has done and what he is up against. They're not the enemy here.

[ClarkUSA]

49. Thanks for your perspective. You know I value your opinion, Number23.

<< The vast majority of the time, members of the CBC state unequivocally that they have this president's back. Even when they are critical of him, their comments are always tempered with much respect as well as an acknowledgement of what this president has done and what he is up against. >>

John Conyers being the exception, I take it? Dennis Kucinich being the other exception.

<< These are legitimate issues that they are raising. >>

I do stand by my view that House Dems have been largely useless in getting legislation passed, so their "concerns" about President Obama's plan seem to be a bit of self-serving media grandstanding. Why is a letter even necessary? Do they not think Pres. Obama is quite cognizant of the facts re: minority unemployment already?

You can PM me if you want... I am going to :boring: now. Nice to hear from you!

[Major Hogwash]

51. Well, that makes 2 of you.

Not exactly a consensus, huh?

:rofl:

[Number23]

54. Seriously, are your posts supposed to mean anything?

[Number23]

55. Conyers ain't so bad

And even much of his feistiest criticism acknowledged the president's successes and obstacles. None of the CBC has pulled a Cornel... yet. And it's probably because they know that the president is far more popular amongst their constituents than they are.

And it's great to see you too!

[Inuca]

64. For what it's worth, COnyers was by Obama's side

in Detroit on MOnday.

[Number23]

84. I didn't know that! Thanks for the heads up

Though I'm not the slightest bit surprised. The man is not stupid.

Like I said, there is a large contingent in GD that pray every night that the CBC turns on Obama the way that Cornel and Tavis have. It ain't gonna happen.

[Lost-in-FL]

53. Thanks you for this link and your willingness to help cool things down.

Some people can't help themselves and tend to act hysterically.

:thumbsup:

[Inuca]

62. I just finished reading the letter

and I completely agree with your post (and with what the letter says).

[swilton]

60. K&R

[Lunabelle]

73. He will lose all of his corporate donations if he listens to the people.

Follow the money.

[Politicalboi]

75. I forget the man's name

He was on Rachel's show last night. He said Obama's jobs outlook didn't have a big enough bang. So maybe they are going to help bring a bang into it.

[Turbineguy]

76. No, let's see what for surprise is in store for us.

Who knows, maybe the GOP will be declared a terrorist organization.

[Jakes Progress]

78. It is a simple story.

The OP is a story about some concerned lawmakers.

But Obama has some out really tarring him by calling these people names and damning them for doing their jobs. These acolytes are not doing Obama any good. Their posts are damning Obama by trying to link their prejudice and stupidity to the president. I'm sure he would rather embrace Hoffa's words than the crap that is in this tread trying to "defend" the president.

[McCamy Taylor]

80. "Dem" plus "Angry" in a title is standard MSM propo designed to make Dems look unstable.

Surprised to see a headline like this one celebrated at DU.

Maybe I need to write a guide to the propaganda used by the corporate media.

[Bluebear]

81. Or maybe they're just angry. Not that we don't appreciate your offer to guide us.

[Number23]

85. Exactly. It doesn't even have to be well-written propaganda for it to be swallowed whole here

If it can be construed in any was as "Obama BAD," it'll get tons of recs here. The new DU and all.

Surprised to see a headline like this one celebrated at DU.

I don't know why anyone would be surprised by anything here anymore.

[pscot]

83. Mother Fucker!I just read throught this thread.

You folks need to step back and listen to yourselves; both sides. Holy shit. people! Take a deep breath and count to 10!

[Bluebear]

86. "Mother Fucker!"...well, them's some healing words

[pscot]

87. I meant to say

can't we all just get along?