Jesus... I Can't Believe This Is Even Necessary...

[WillyT]

Poll question: Jesus... I Can't Believe This Is Even Necessary...

Won't refer to the post that caused this disruption.

Do you think the comments by Teamster Union President James Hoffa Were Inappropriate ?

No "Obligatory Other"... choose a fucking side!

:mad:

[Skittles]

1. NO

Jimmy knows how to treat RABID DOGS

[WillyT]

4. If I Told You How Much I Love You...

Would you still kick my ass?

:hide::evilgrin::hide:

:loveya:

:hi:

[Skittles]

6. YOU'D PROBABLY PAY ME, WILLYT!

yes INDEED! :D

[WillyT]

7. Shh...

Ix-nay on the Payme-ay, OK ???

:hide:

:pals:

[pintobean]

8. I can kick in a 20

[WillyT]

10. Ok... THAT... Was Funny !!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

And hey... thanks for doing a solid.

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[HappyMe]

2. No, not at all. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Nope

[libodem]

5. When

Cheney apologizes for water boarding, secret renditions, wire tapping the whole country, starting wars of aggression for profit and for that sneer. Then....

[socialist_n_TN]

9. Guess how I voted?

:rofl:

[WillyT]

11. That Is Why You Are Absolutely Awesome !!!

:toast::woohoo::toast:

:yourock:

:hi:

[Jack Rabbit]

12. Advice to Mr. Hoffa:

Don't retreat. Reload.

[6000eliot]

13. DON'T KEEP LETTING THOSE IDIOTS SET THE TERMS OF THE DEBATE!

FUCK THEM! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! THEY GET TO DO THIS EVERY TIME!

[one_voice]

14. NO!

[William769]

15. People in our party should lead by his example.

[saras]

16. Need a link to the original comments, not at DU

Is it http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003">this speech/quote?

Or http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/quote/teamsters-boss-james-hoffa/">this surprisingly straight-up one from a Fox blog?

or are they part of the same speech?


For myself, I have no problem separating someone using language others find inappropriate in the heat of anger - it's hard to find language that makes your opponent as angry, fearful, and rightly shamed as is necessary sometimes without offending third parties, and it doesn't necessarily reflect on the quality of the argument. When referring to the Tea Party, my own preference would be that he used language that offended every living being on the planet - at least that way he could plead equal opportunity.

So my vote is +100 to Hoffa for saying the right thing, -2 for saying it poorly, and -100 for the poll setting up a binary opposition as a legitimate political position.

[sabrina 1]

17. No, and not only that, he should give classes to spineless Democrats

on how to deal with rightwing lunatics who are destroying this country.

AND he should repeat what he said over and over again every time they whine about it.

[Chorophyll]

18. Hellz no! nt

[Tiggeroshii]

19. "Sons of bitches" was being nice.

But what they really are cannot be explained in words.

Just a simple, impulsive bodily action.

:puke:

[Raine]

20. NO ... and I would LOVE to hear this kind of thing from every Democrat! nt

[Motown_Johnny]

21. I was in the crowd, there was no sense that any of that was a call for violence

to us it seemed perfectly clear that he was talking about voting them out.



This is Detroit we are talking about, if there were a call for violence we would have known it.

[durablend]

22. Four 'yes' already

Ah some more pearl clutching...just like Democrats do! At least some of you don't disappoint!

[Lyric]

23. Of course not.

The whole thing is just stupid.

[Autumn]

24. No

"Sons of bitches" are the perfect words to describe the republican and teabag party.

[workinclasszero]

25. HELL NO!

I applaud Mr Hoffa for his honesty but his comments were too mild if anything!

Right wing fascist New Apostolic Reformation people, a group of self-named “apostles” who plan to take dominion over the Tea Party Movement and eventually the world are plotting the death of freedom in the USA and we are upset that James Hoffa said lets take these teabag SOB's out!?

What the fuck is wrong with this country? Is everybody brainwashed by Fox and Rush Limpballs??:crazy:

[HappyMe]

26. 6 yes votes? Oy. nt

[pintobean]

27. Might have something to do with

the attitude of the OP and the thinly veiled call-out.

[H2O Man]

28. "Other"

I don't see anything wrong with the comment. It wasn't a threat in a bad way. But, if it really offends the Tea Party, I like it even more.

[LWolf]

29. The real question is

WHO THE FUCK on DU would vote yes?

Edited to add:

Don't answer that. :(

[pintobean]

30. Maybe it's a matter of timing

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=217187&mesg_id=217406

[Ganja Ninja]

31. I wish I could say I can't believe this is even happening.

But such is the pitiful state of the democratic party. No name calling = No fighting back! I don't know how to explain it any simpler than that. If a little tough language is to much for you to bear than you should leave the Democratic party and sit on the sidelines with the independents. If fighting back bothers you and is something you think is inappropriate than just give up, turn in your voter ID and stay home on election day.

[Javaman]

32. no, of course not, but 9 apologists in your poll apparently do. nt