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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:13 AM
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For those who think Texas should burn because of Rick Perry - post your 'Burn Baby Burn' here.....
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 09:26 AM by LynneSin
Because I want to know what kind of sick assholes would wish that upon ANYONE!!!!

I want to see what assholes would want Texas to burn and watch thousands of innocent children & babies suffer.

I want to see what assholes would want Texas to burn and watch animals suffer painful horrible deaths.

I want to see what assholes would have no problem saying a giant 'FUCK YOU' to the dozens of DUers who live in Texas and could be impacted by these fires.

I know that Rick Perry is a wretched fuck who was stupid enough to cut volunteer fire department by 75%. I know he's a big reason why Texas is burning. And I know that a large group of people in Texas voted to re-elect this dumb fuck TWICE (plus his former boss George W. Bush).

But I also know that we are DUers, we call ourselves words like 'liberal' and 'progressive' and we talk about how we fight to protect the working class.

Well guess who is mainly in the line of fire so to speak of these wildfires - that's the working class people.

When someone is down and out we, as a government, need to be there to help. Perhaps when this is over we'll remind the folks of Texas just who helped them out, which clearly is NOT Rick Perry.

Thank you!

Edit Note: This isn't just for the trolls that read DU but for the DUers that would suggest we not give any federal funds to Texas to help fight the fires.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:14 AM
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1. Thanks
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:15 AM
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2. You ok down there
:pals:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:25 AM
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12. I'm fine where I'm at
But several people I know had to evacuate and some of them still don't know if their houses are there.
Two got out with the clothes on their backs, what personal stuff they could grab, and their dog. About the time they got a quarter mile down the road, they heard their propane tank explode.
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susanr516 Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:00 PM
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73. Glad to hear you're safe
We could see the smoke and smell the fire here in Corpus Christi (over 200 miles away) this weekend. The smoke plume was picked up by our radar. What a tragedy.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:15 AM
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3. K&R - Let's see the people who put politics before life show themselves
:kick:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:18 AM
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4. DUers just want Republicons to shut up about "socialism" and all the rest
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 09:19 AM by SpiralHawk
Nobody wants any harm to come to Texas or Texans. Alas, the rank Republicon stooopidity & hypocrisy is -- inevitably -- galling to sensible and honorable citizens of these United States. Intemperate whackery thus ensues, sadly.

Screaming steenkin Republicon hypocrisy brings out the worst in some people.

I -- like the vast majority of DUers and Americans -- wish only the best for Texas (and for the Republicons to shut their hypocritcal, firefighter-gutting yaps).
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:19 AM
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5. I have a confession to make...
I actually like Texas very much and have been there 3x. (And I'm a NY'er!)

I judge people based on their own individual merits and just because their Governor is an asshole doesn't mean I wouldn't take the shirt off of my back to help an injured Texan.
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ellenrr Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:20 AM
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6. I don't think anyone would think that.
that would be idiotic and satanic.

This is from a good liberal tx blog:
"Where are the Tea Party firefighters?"

ie the people responsible for this catastrophe should be the ones countering it.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:22 AM
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8. Oh it's been said - it's been posted right here in DU too
Maybe not "Burn Baby Burn" but suggesting we not provide any funds to Texas to help fight the fires.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:25 AM
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13. That was appalling. I was really sad to see that here, on DU,
where we should know the hell better.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:50 PM
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72. Hmmm..looks like it was a good thing I was off DU all day
and missed whatever shit was being thrown around.

Kinda sad that any Dems talk like that...it's a sign of being shallow and uneducated. How embarassing on their part. And we wonder why the Texas electoral vote grand prize is never in the Blue column...the repukes have brainwashed the above Dems into thinking in a "us vs them" manner and Dems have written off Texas and, apparently, Texans.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:03 AM
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25. Oh, it's been said alright.
Same thing said about aid to Virginia for Hurricane Irene, because of our Governor - Bob McDonnell. :-(
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:09 AM
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81. Oh yes, they think it and they articulate it. nt
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kag Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:20 AM
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7. You want to know what kind of asshole would...?
Rick Perry! That's what kind of asshole.

There are fires surrounding many of my family and friends in Texas (I was born in Austin, raised in Longview). I desperately hope the weather changes, and some relief will help end these infernos. And I despise Rick Perry with every fiber of my being!
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:47 AM
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42. Thankfully, the weather has already changed (no gusting winds!)
and the firefighters are able to get some of the fires under control.

What made this situation so bad were two simultaneous weather events. Namely, Tropical Storm Lee, and a cold front blowing through Texas. Lee helped steer that dry-air front through the state. While it's not known what directly caused all of the fires (the Leander fire is now suspected to have been started by some teens seen fleeing a wooded area there) the dryer air and wind gusts of 50-mph made it all much worse.

The Houston Press has a good write-up on this today:

The Cool Fronts, The Wild Fires and the High Pressure Shuffle
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:23 AM
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9. Thank you! n/t
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:24 AM
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10. This 5th gen. Texan does get tired of the Texas bashing.
Seems to be getting worse with goodhair in the running. Sad.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:25 AM
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11. So painful to think of that level of callousness.
I feel so bad for the people and know that they must take priority... but my heart aches for all the wild and stray animals who will die horrific deaths as well. :cry:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:26 AM
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14. IMO Liberal/Democrat and Humanitarian are not mutually exclusive.



I think it is absurd to hold an entire population to blame for the words or deeds of their elected officials.

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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:27 AM
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15. The Gubner will regret cutting that $34 million from the Forest Service's budget.
He has to share some responsibility for 'Burn Baby Burn.'
But I agree with your premise. I am from the midwest. During a vacation to Austin I went to Bastrop State Forest for a day of fishing. It's a wonderful place full of sweet-smelling evergreen trees. It was 98 degrees in Austin but a cool 78 inside the park. I felt a sting of sadness when I read about the fire. I hope some of the forest survives.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:27 AM
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16. Wishing destruction on Texas is Pat Robertson behavior, hypocrisy at its worse.
Republican Governors are like getting atheletes foot with some care it can be cured. Right now Texas needs some care.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:32 AM
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17. I have no patience for such people so I won't say anything else
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:38 AM
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18. I would much rather see a large chunk of space junk
fall out of orbit and smash Perry while he's giving a speech on live TV. That would put the fear of god into these bastards.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:42 AM
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19. 3,521,164 Texans voted for Obama in 2008, nearly 44% of the votes.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:29 AM
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95. I was one. Voted for Bill White,too. I hate Perry.
x(
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 09:58 AM
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20. I live in Texas
I don't want it to burn, but I don't understand why the people in Texas keep voting against their interests, against their safety and against sanity, and against a better life and better education for their children. They rail against the evil socialists, so called "elitists" and progressives and want to take their country "back" but they have their hands out, just like our governor did for the stimulus funds (he used around $17 mil to repair the governor's mansion that was damaged by a fire). I hate this hypocrisy. They vote for this shit, until shit happens and then they want their shit taken care of. I guess I'm just tired of the State of Stupid that has been the direct result of the fake news from Fox and the religious cultists that have tried to suck all the intelligence out of this country. Ron White a comedian from Texas said it all....."you can't fix stupid" and Perry is the perfect example of Texas Stupid.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:01 AM
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22. Guns, Gods, Gays and Abortion
Four things republicans use to 'scare' the masses even though the scare is not real.
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:56 PM
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66. i can say the same for ohio
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #20
78. NJ, CA, FL all have Republican governors.
Why no hatred for them during times of disaster?
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Moses2SandyKoufax Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:05 AM
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83. California doesn't have a Republican governor. n/t
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:43 AM
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97. A little behind on their reading!
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:18 AM
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82. +1
wish no ill will on TX and am sad it got to the condition it's in.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:34 AM
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96. I wonder, too, Loki...

Maybe it's the education factor. I know that Texas ranks near the bottom of all states, when it comes to the level and quality of education.

I don't wish ill on anyone, ever, but in reality, Texans bring it on themselves. Hopefully this is a wake-up call; a very unpleasant reminder of what republican type of austerity will bring.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:00 AM
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21. Wow.
I was about to freak out ALL OVER YOU.

Good post.

:hug:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:08 AM
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27. Come on Will - we've known each other for about 10 years now
If you're gonna freak out at least bring some beer with you to share

:D
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:21 AM
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30. Promise
No, my computer is slowly dying, and the part of the screen where poster's names can be seen is obscured. I have to click threads to see who wrote them.

Beer is good. :)
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:02 AM
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23. Rec. nt
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:03 AM
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24. No true Progressive wants that. n/t
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:07 AM
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26. Thanks LynneSin, It does get old listening to the Texas bashing.
Texas Is Purple!

The Pubs control the vote counting and redistricting, so unfortunately our representation is disgustingly red despite our actual votes. Disenfranchisement is rampant.
Austin (Travis county) has been redistricted five ways. http://www.austinchronicle.com/blogs/news/2011-05-31/congressional-redistricting-map-released/ It is appalling to let this stand!

While this red cloak over our purple state is all very sad, it's even sadder to see what is happening to our beloved state with so many Republicans in charge.

Texas was the prototype for what they are trying to do all over the country.

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:15 AM
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28. Thanks
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:20 AM
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29. k&r
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:22 AM
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31. Thanks for that
We're OK here. Monday at 04:01 we got a call from the county's emergency management (kind of reverse 911) about a fire 3 miles to the south and east of us. The wind was blowing hard out of the north so we were relatively safe. The volunteer fire fighters (bless 'em) were unable to save the barn where it started but stopped it 50' from a home.

There are fires north, south, east and west of us, but so far we are in the clear.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:27 AM
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32. I don't want Texas to burn
However, the issue isn't me, a Nutmegger with a sodden basement because the pump in the driveway developed a problem last night and flooded the house.


The issue is, do TEXANS want Texas to burn?


And how do we judge that? By what they say, or what they do?


And will we as a nation be better off in the future if the Texas situation makes people think more about what they say vs. what they do?
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:38 AM
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33. pathetic that it even needs to be said
I'm disgusted how morally repugnant so many people have gotten here mocking victims of disaster just to get in a little twisted R v. D sport play.


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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 10:41 AM
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34. God is punishing Texas because of Rick Perry.
:sarcasm:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:02 AM
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35. I know this Texan really appreciates you posting this. :)
I notice there is a certain absence of a particular poster in this thread. Let's hope it stays that way.

BTW I just recently got back from Rehobeth Beach. Beautiful place. Dogfish Head Beer! Yummm!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:20 AM
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38. Delaware Beaches are so lovely
My friend has a house in Broadkill Beach which fortunately survived the storm.

BTW, I love Austin - I was at SXSW a few years back and hope to go again someday soon!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:03 AM
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36. This Texan appreciates the sentiment, LynneSin- well said!
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:03 AM
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37. I want to see that list too.
but have a pretty good idea who is on it.

fucking sickness!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:28 AM
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39. There is a LARGE "Hate The South/ Hate Texas" faction on DU.
That has been true since Day One.

My Populist Democratic Party roots are from rural NE Texas,
and some of my favorite "Democrats" are from Texas too.

LBJ
Bill Moyers
Jim Hightower
Anne Richards
Molly Ivans
My Pro-LABOR Working Class FDR/LBJ Parents
This Texan, whoever he is, standing outside the Governor's Mansion


I have found Texas Democrats to be courageous,
willing to stand-against-the-flow,
intelligent,
quick,
sharp tongued,
fighters.

My Wife & I are both Firefighters,
and our hearts & hopes go out to the Texans facing this threat.


We now live next door in Arkansas,
and are having our own fire problems.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #39
67. Add to the list of great Texan Democrats Barbara Jordan
She is my personal favorite Texas Democrat.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:32 AM
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40. Jesus, drop the over the top drama! Fuck quit wasting time on this topic!
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BigDemVoter Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:43 PM
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62. amen and a big UNREC to this topic!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:35 AM
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41. Yeah. Traditionally, Dems unconditionally just do the right thing for the people of our country,
regardless of opinions, beliefs, etc.

It's generally a big part of why we are Democrats, we are the adults, and republicans are like big kids we have to take care of because they are not imaginative enough to understand that disaster can befall them and they might need help sometimes.

And, *sigh*, this is another one of those sometimes.

Good post.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:58 AM
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43. Thank you for this!
I find it rather odd that we have to remind our fellow liberals to be compassionate! I thought it was natural to us all, but I guess for some that hard-wiring has unraveled. I only hope that yours, and all the other outcries popping up now, will help to educate our non-compassionate ones about why it's important to help their fellow humans, no matter what!

And, at times like this, whether a disaster of fire or flood, that I wish I had a pickup, even a small one. Then I could help those with lots of animals get them out of the way. I read elsewhere (maybe in the Texas forum) that the Bastrop zoo needs help getting the animals out of there.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:07 PM
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44. Appreciate it, from down here in true blue Houston.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 12:13 PM by ScreamingMeemie
And for that, I hope the Eagles win at least one for you this year. :hug:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:10 PM
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45. Thank you.
Texas bashing seems to get a free pass on DU. Thank you for saying it so much better then I ever could! :hi:
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tgal Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:11 PM
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46. Thank you.
My Daughter lives between Austin and Georgetown.

We are petrified for her.

She certainly never voted for Perry and is active as a Democrat. She does not deserve to lose her life or home over a 'wretched dumb fuck' (love that Lynn) either.

Send the help NOW!!!!!

Thanks for the thread. It is another tough day there and in the lives of many of us who don't live there but have loved ones there.

tgal
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:17 PM
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47. Unreccing because I don't think anyone thinks that.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:26 PM
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48. Then you must not have read all the threads in GD today
:cry:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:51 PM
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52. I can understand your disbelief.
Hell, I mirror it. Yet there are still those who think that since Texas government is the epitome of all things evil in the world, it's only fair that all Texas' citizens should should suffer horribly.

Crazy, huh?
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:41 PM
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49. Thank you
That "other" thread made my blood boil.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:43 PM
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50. Thanks. FWIW, I hate the government in Texas, too.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 12:44 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
A lot of people don't understand the dynamics of how Texas politics became what they are. In a word it's gerrymandering. There's more to it, but that's the largest reason we've fallen to our current a low. However, we're not even the most politically F'd up state. We're just the most hated by some Democrats, Progressives and Liberals. It's fun to have someone to look down on. It makes some people feel better to gain that misguided, and false sense of superiority.

However, when innocent people are suffering, there's no excuse for such ignorant self-gratification. If a person insist on a political litmus test, Texas voted 43.72% Democratic in 2008. Should all those people suffer because of the 55.48% who voted Republican? How about the children who haven't had a chance to choose a political path yet? If it were Republicans screaming to let a state which is a small majority Democratic burn would the people here be outraged? Of course they would. We all would be outraged if a bunch of small minded bigots let their politics get in the way of a humanitarian effort. Yet people actually think their feelings are different, that they're validated, when they do the same thing against Texans? I find that amazing. Small minded hate is small minded hate, no matter which side of the political fence it comes from.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 03:53 PM
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56. Tom Delay really fucked up that state
The only way of salvation would be if they passed laws that required natural/definable borders for making congressional districts.

A county line or township line is a doable congressional border.

Slicing a border in an out of neighborhoods to connect an urban area deep into rural parts of the state so the liberal population is watered down makes absolutely no sense and truly defines gerrymandering at it's worse.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:41 PM
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61. We're currently in court again fighting redistricting in Texas.
Can you believe that? It's a never ending battle down here. Luckily we never give up, and we even win some of the time. The important thing is we always keep on fighting. Who knows maybe someday all our hard work will pay off for future generations?

Here's an article you may find interesting. It's about current court battle against redistricting in the state which is unfair to minorities. I think we have a good chance of actually winning this one.

http://politic365.com/2011/09/07/texas-redistricting-now-a-court-fight-%E2%80%94-are-districts-fair/
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:44 PM
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51. doesn't seem decent to wish them to burn just cause of one guy. nt
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 12:57 PM
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53. Glad I didn't witness anyone saying that. The fact Perry's ideology would *allow* Texas to burn is
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 12:57 PM by DirkGently
something else -- maybe someone was thinking that, and went too far?

One hope, while we try to assist everyone facing disasters, natural and unnatural, is that people recognize how ugly it is to suggest ANY of our neighbors is unworthy of all the help and support we can give them. That national disaster relief efforts are among the most unquestionably worthy ways to spend our time, money, and effort. Always.

Good luck, Texas.

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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:03 PM
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54. Give them the money... just make Perry come to the White House to pick up the check
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 01:23 PM
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55. Thank you for this post.
:hug:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:27 PM
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57. Thank you!!!
Native Texan here, lived here all my life.
We have wildfires up here in houston and Anderson Counties that have been dangerous. Had heavy smoke wafting thru yesterday morning.

We need all the help we can get in Houston and Anderson Counties. We're a bit north of Huntsville, east of Centerville, and east of I-45.

I don't like the Texas bashing. There are lots of good people here, even some of us out in the country, scattered amongst the tea partiers who are ignorant.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:32 PM
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58. you can't punish the people for their ignorant leader
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:33 AM
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89. Well, you can if you're President and the people live in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Cuba, ....
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:34 AM by WinkyDink
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:36 PM
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59. Is it OK to want the property of rich Repukes and secessionists to burn? Or
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 04:37 PM by coalition_unwilling
are we supposed to be as solitious of rich Texas fucks and traitors as we are of working class Texas stiffs?
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:37 PM
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60. i just got back from bastrop
I made a couple of deliveries of supplies from austin pets alive to the bastrop animal shelter. they will use the supplies to set food and water out for any animals that are in the burnt area. they just got the ok to go in today.

also here is a video taken by a ranger from his dashcam of the destruction in a subdivision in bastrop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4TF3h-W1Nk&feature=player_embedded
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:48 PM
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64. You are awesome!
Thank you for making those deliveries.
:yourock:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:15 PM
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69. thanks for all that you are doing for the animals -
I know you've been at it for several days. Appreciate the OP as well, thanks LynneSin.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:37 PM
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75. Thank you.
I appreciate your delivery and compassion. I am sure the doggies and kittehs do to!
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:31 AM
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88. thank you so much!
:hug:

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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:48 PM
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63. Do you feel better now
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:52 PM
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65. Thanks, LynneSin...
I live in Dallas, and we're doing well here, with the exception of worsening allergy/asthma symptoms from the smoke/haze.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:14 PM
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68. Yeah baby!

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:20 PM
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70. Texan here. A good friend has another friend who lost her home in Bastrop County
this week. I don't know if she voted, much less if she voted for Perry. She may have voted for that spoiler, Kinky Friedman. But her house is still smoldering ash. She lost everything.

BTW, Perry didn't get a majority of the votes, just a plurality.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:24 PM
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71. Rick Perry isn't even in Texas tonight while his state is going up in flames. Says a lot about him.
He is more concerned with his ego than his state -- and he doesn't stand a chance.

Pawlenty was smart to get away from those tea party appeasers now.
In the future, he won't have to contradict himself as much as the others will.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:18 PM
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74. Thank you for posting!
I'm glad I missed all that drama, I was out today delivering eyewash to people in need because of the heavy smoke.

I am sad beyond belief.
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:42 PM
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76. i doubt most of us wish that, Lynne. and many of us have personal connections with Texas, too.
wishing something so vicious - would be the equivalent of hoping the US goes up in smoke for the sins of the Bush/Cheney gang.
on the other hand, i do think Rick Perry should burn in whatever personal hell he's destined for - 'cos of what he's done to Texas.

:hug:
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:21 PM
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77. K&R
There's always a few when something bad happens in the south. To our credit, they're usually shouted down pretty quickly.
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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 12:57 AM
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79. Here's a response I posted on another site about this issue ...
Someone made a facetious remark that the fires were God's judgment being rained down on Texas. Someone from Texas objected. Her objections were understandable, but I think she was a bit mistaken about the intent of many of the posts. Here is my response:

With all due respect, and with a sincere wish that you and yours (and all other Texans) will be spared any further property damage and loss of life, I think you are misreading the intent behind many of the posts here. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt Flying really thinks God is punishing Texas with the fires. I believe Flying's intent (as with most of the posts here) is not in any way to be hurtful to you or other Texans who may have lost homes or loved ones; rather, I think Flying is facetiously using a bit of irony to parrot back to Tea Party-style conservatives and right wing religious zealots (both of which are, let's be honest, very highly represented in your state) the kind of mean-spirited nonsense those groups have been spewing to the rest of us for years: calling senior citizens, public school teachers and other public employees "greedy", blanket characterizations of the unemployed as "just lazy", laying any and every natural disaster that happens anywhere at the feet of policies that make life just a little more bearable for gay or lesbian citizens, constantly demonizing government (until, of course, they happen to need the services government provides), and all manner of other very hurtful, very destructive nonsense.

Many in your state (and your Governor is no exception) love to talk tough; indeed, for many, it seems as if the more extreme (and hence tough-sounding) the rhetoric, the more they like it. And the extreme rhetoric itself begins to feed on itself. And these aren't "just words"; they are words that often wind up becoming codified in laws and policies that affect the real lives of people, and not just in Texas.

I know, and I suspect most of the people commenting here know, that there are millions of Texans who are nothing like the stereotypical caricature of a Texan your Governor represents. But, for better or for ill, and fairly or not, that has been the public face of your state that many of the rest of us have seen for years now. You and other Texans have every right to expect the compassion of your fellow citizens. But you really shouldn't be surprised when some citizens from other parts offer a none-too-subtle reminder that Texas, taken as a whole, has not exactly presented itself as a model of compassion for many of the nation's less fortunate in recent years.

I don't wish any kind of harm to befall anyone from Texas, be they liberal, conservative, religious or irreligious, or whatever. But the outrageous hypocrisy of a Rick Perry (who has a long history of bashing FEMA) deserves to be called out in real time.

To the rest of us, I would say that we should all try to remember that real people facing real situations are reading what is written here. By all means, call out the right wing's hypocrisy, and do it in the context of real, unfolding events such as the Texas fires, but do try to temper your comments with a bit of the compassion the right wing so often fails to manifest.


Here is a link to the comment in its original context: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/texas-cut-fire-department-funding-by-75-percent-this-year/#comment-304039171
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:08 AM
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80. In 2004 a DUer (who is still here) told me that my home should be destroyed
by Hurricane Charley because Florida "let" Bush win in 2000. I asked her to clarify her position; did she really mean that I and all other Democrats in Florida should lose our homes and perhaps DIE because the 2000 election was stolen? She said "Yes, because you let it happen." And she said this when the hurricane was only 20 minutes away (it clobbered my neighborhood).

Yes, there are some truly sick assh*les here who think that political retribution is more important than any of our lives.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:30 AM
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84. There is a difference between cheering for the fires and pointing out the irony of their politics.
I can't imagine anyone on a site like this actively rooting for a natural disaster to cause more destruction and misery. And I don't think anyone here would be serious about refusing the necessary funds out of political spite. But that doesn't mean the point should not be made. At least let be known well that without this "socialism" they would be worse fucked than they already are. Let them know that the Republican leaders want to cut their social security before they'll agree to help in any way. These severe weather events could be a great teaching tools if played correctly through the media.
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:43 AM
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85. Thank you & recced. nt
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:53 AM
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86. Any asshole that is that sick will never expose themself by posting. nt
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:25 AM
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87. what kind of vindictive idiot says Texas should not get federal funds?
that is INSANE!
Last i heard, Perry had not seceded Texas from the Union, it's still part of the USA.

Texas is a beautiful wonderful state. I spent 5 years in Austin and those fires in Central TX are utterly heart-breaking. :cry:

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:36 AM
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90. I hope my in-laws are okay (Houston, Sugar Land), though I KNOW they voted for Perry, Bush, etc.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:36 AM by WinkyDink
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:13 AM
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94. Houston is fine for the most part.
There are some minor fires on the outskirts of town, so Sugar Land may see some of that. Magnolia currently has some major fires going, and we're in the path of some of their smoke. People are talking about the smoke-smell at work today.

I recommend using Weather Underground's "WunderMap" and turning on the "Fire" option on the right. Set it to just "map" instead of "hybrid" so you can see the areas affected by smoke, too. While not damaging to property, it is affecting people's health.

Maybe contact your in-laws if you can and see how things are :)

http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=29.27682&lon=-96.20728&zoom=7&type=map&units=english&pin=Houston&plat=29.71940&plon=-95.22285&rad=0&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=0&hur=0&fire=1&fire.sat=1&fire.smk=1&fire.day=1&fire.day=7&fire.hrmin=0&fire.hrmax=24&fire.opa=70&fire.mode=0&tor=0&ndfd=0&pix=0&dir=0&ads=0&dd=0&tfk=0&ski=0&stormreports=0
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:45 AM
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91. If Texas gets federal funds, fellow DU'ers in Texas and if you have friends/relatives there,
who voted for Perry and other Republicans, be sure to rub it in good how Republicans are against "big government"--but when the ox gets in the ditch, they are whining and have their hands out.

And also how Perry cut the funding for the fire depts.



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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:03 AM
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93. Exactly. Helping is the right thing to do, but the day after the fires are out
Perry and the rest of the Texas Teabaggers will be bashing "Big Government" again. Somehow this behavior has to be altered. One of the scolders please enlighten me on how this might be done.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:00 AM
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92. At what point do these anti-government wackos become responsisble for their actions?
OK, the OP is a nice, feel-good rec grabber, but at some point these people need to be held to account for their views and the actions resulting from these views. And calling my liberal credentials into question because I feel that these idiots should take some responsibility for the carnage they've wrought is rather harsh.
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hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 10:09 AM
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98. Thanks for posting.
And bringing the awareness to this issue. Every state has its embarrassments. Ours (Perry) is just an attention whore.
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