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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:34 PM
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Poll question: Poll: Generational Attitudes towards public nudity
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 02:34 PM by Warren DeMontague
The threads about San Francisco and the apparent problem of public nudity got me wondering about the age/gen breakdown of attitudes towards this phenomenon. Personally, I don't think it's such a big deal, and I suspect that fears of crowded BART trains full of flapping nude bodies are probably a bit overblown. And I'm Gen X.

I'm curious to see the generational patterns, particularly because I'm old enough to remember the 'streaking' fad of the early 70s, and when I was in college in the 80s we had the "naked guy on campus" fad, too.
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peter999 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:38 PM
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1. Nudity
I think this may be getting a bit too far with the whole nudity thing.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:40 PM
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2. Here's the thing -- when I see a naked body - say at a beach --
Poop, piss & menstrual blood aren't the first things to pop in my head.

Germs, bacteria & such aren't the first things in my head when I see fully clothed people either.
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w0nderer Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:48 PM
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18. wait a second, did you type that without gloves and mouthguard?
omigod!
run: virusguard.exe
run: viruskill.exe
run: bacteriakill.exe
run: sanitizenetwork.exe

runs to bathroom washes hands in chlorine puts on gloves and oxygen mask

how could you?!

:sarcasm:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:35 PM
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20. Me either. I think someone who practices good hygiene is just as clean naked as dressed.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 05:36 PM by Warren DeMontague
And someone who doesn't practice good hygiene is spreading all that stuff wherever they go, either way.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 12:30 AM
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34. Personally, I'd like a cloth layer between a public bench and...
somebody's stinky Fromunda Cheese.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:46 AM
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37. As a general rule, it's probably wise to assume that public bench has ass on it.
better safe than sorry.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:42 PM
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3. One more instance of airline related terrorism and we'll all be flying naked....
so you might as well get used to it.

I'm one of the "boomers" who really doesn't give a shit.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:42 PM
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4. yes, but will you have a towel to sit on. nt
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:45 PM
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6. For a small fee I'm sure the airlines would provide a towel
Of course, if you want a CLEAN towel, there's another fee for that.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:34 PM
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19. I've said for years, the humane thing would be to sedate & stack us like cord wood in the cargo hold
clothed, naked, I don't care- I'm not an exceptionally tall man; about 6 feet- but the fucking rows are too close together, either way.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:15 PM
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31. Submit that idea to a few airlines and you just might have a new career in "consulting"
If we were sedated they'd save on peanuts but lose money on drinks. Still, stacking would really increase volume and end that little problem of "bumping". You can always find room for one more.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:45 AM
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36. Oh, I'm sure they've already thought of it.
but they've decided the potential risk of litigation there is greater than being sued for all the deep vein thromboses they cause by stuffing people into those tiny seats and then not letting them get up to pee for 3 hours because they're using the 'seat belt sign' for crowd control purposes.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:43 PM
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5. I'm a boomer
But my public nudity approval would depend on who I'm looking at.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:46 PM
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7. Other than the urine dripping from their pubic hair...
...and everybody spreading fecal matter everywhere, I don't have a problem with it.

:P
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:50 PM
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8. lmao. i didnt think about that shit until the last OP. my son is so anal,
he would never leave the house. he watches and pays attention adn thinks about it all.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:52 PM
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9. I don't disapprove of it but I don't think it's very practical
I have no problem with people walking around bare assed at the beach but other than that, what's the point?





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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:53 PM
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10. Other - I think it's a big deal, a good thing, and I'm for it.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:57 PM
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11. Indifference is the opposite of both love and hate. Put me in the *yawn* camp.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 02:58 PM
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12. Yup. nt
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 03:56 PM
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13. I can't say approve OR disapprove. I think there is a time and place where it's
acceptable in public, and when it's not.

A total ban under ALL circumstances is overkill.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:13 PM
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14. If one is OK with public nudity- then you have to be OK with
ANY nekkid human body. And lots of them *should* be covered up.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:29 PM
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15. I disapprove.
Beautiful naked women would distract the Hell out of me. Beutiful naked men would make me feel competitive and/or inadequate.

And then, there would be the "not so beautiful" naked people .....

I'm old school, I guess. If you really want me to see you naked, then make an appointment and I'll consider it. Otherwise, I prefer my strangers *clothed*!
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ChillbertKChesterton Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:32 PM
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16. If social standards were more accepting of nudity,
people might be more conscious of their bodily health (reducing obesity)
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 04:33 PM
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17. Other
As much as I might enjoy it, I am far to ugly to be allowed to wander about naked.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:39 PM
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21. Most of the people who want to walk around nude are the LAST people on earth you want to see naked,
so to keep us all from becoming anorexic against our will cover the fuck up and go naked where it's allowed and where you are appreciated. Otherwise you are just an exhibitionist and not a nudist.
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:41 PM
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22. I don't care, but I do reserve the right to laugh. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:42 PM
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29. this is what my thought is. i am not one to "pretend" i dont see something
you know boldly point, laugh... he's neekid. lol.

anyway, i chose not to share that, but...
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:46 PM
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23. OH NOES!!!111 THE NAKED HUMAN FORM!!!111 HIDE TEH CHILDREN!!1111!1
Edited on Wed Sep-07-11 05:46 PM by Lucian
:eyes:

I'm a millenial and I don't care if people walk around naked. In fact, I'd like to see more of it. :)
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 05:48 PM
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24. Come to Portland, my good sir!
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:02 PM
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25. That...that looks painful.
I'm sure the balls wouldn't feel good riding on a bike seat nude.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:28 PM
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26. my wife & I went out for 'date night' and happened to land right smack in the middle of that thing.
It was actually pretty classic.

If we had parked half a block away, we would have been stuck for half the night until the thing stopped going.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:31 AM
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46. Try that in Texas and you'll have to peel them off.
:rofl:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 10:53 AM
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54. Have you ever been to Portland in May?
These people deserve some kind of a medal for braving the cold.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:08 PM
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55. I guess they'll have to chip them off then...
:rofl: !!!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:16 PM
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27. I have to say, the results are different than I might have expected.
Guess I don't know everything. :o
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:40 PM
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28. Not sure what you expected, but...
I think some other factors besides generational might also be in play here.

Like maybe cultural...or familial.

I'm a Boomer, which perhaps might ordinarily make me less freaked out by public nudity than, say, someone older.

But my family was pretty inhibited about a whole lot of things, so that could have a lot to do with my attitude on the subject of public nudity.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:47 PM
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30. lol
almost half of the youngest generation just says

NO
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:39 AM
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35. which means twice as many still say YES.
I'm wondering if part of that is that they figure the rest of us look a lot worse than they do, and they certainly don't want to see any of it. :shrug:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:24 PM
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32. I am Millennial and I don't approve of public nudity
And why does it seem like most nudists are the kind of people you DON'T EVER want to see naked? :puke:
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Zanzoobar Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 11:35 PM
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33. Other
There's no way to quantify it with a poll like this.

I don't wanna stand on a train full of naked dudes of any age. I wouldn't mind one bit standing on a train full of well kept women under 30.

It's all relative.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:51 AM
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39. Part of my point was, I don't think the trains full of naked people are going to happen
even IF San Francisco doesn't outlaw public nudity, or whatever.

There are reasons most people wear clothes most of the time, and they go beyond 'because we're told we have to'.

Plus, everyone knows how nude people prefer to get around the city, and it's not the train:



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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 01:49 AM
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38. I think it should be legal, but I reserve the right to point and laugh.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 02:01 AM by LeftyMom
I'm 30.

edit: And naked people sitting on them could not possibly make the nasty upholstery on BART more gross. The seats have already achieved maximum funk.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:32 AM
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43. Why would you point and laugh?
Where did you develop that attitude? Why is the body something that would make you giggle like a child? Just curious.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:27 AM
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45. I'm going to let you in on a little secret: nearly everything people do is ridiculous.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 08:28 AM by LeftyMom
Running around with no clothes (save perhaps a goofy looking hat) on in foggy, windy, almost-never-warm-even-on-a-sunny-day San Francisco definitely makes the list. As do nearly all naked men. Naked men in San Francisco weather? :rofl:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:24 AM
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50. Much as they have such pride in their "stuff"...
I think male genitalia are foolish looking.

Don't need to see 'em. Don't wanna see 'em.


A nicely built guy in a pair of (not TOO tight) jeans. Yeah. Can't get any better than that.

:D

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 02:27 AM
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40. Frankly I don't get WHY someone would want to be naked outside
in most cases. I still believe there should be SOME layer of cloth between say a park bench or a seat in a bus and someone's ass. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 06:06 AM
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41. Why? Because some people get a sexual thrill from exposing themselves
I'm sure that's not the only reason but it probably accounts for most public nudity, along with the chance to see other naked people.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:20 AM
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42. Tater and fuji, you're both off the mark.
Visit the AANR web site. First of all, it is "protocol" to always have a towel to sit on when going nude. And sexuality doesn't enter into it, at least for most. It's just a freedom and comfort thing. When you thiink about it, if it was sex, men would be sporting wood at nude beaches, and that is also a no-no. Yeah, believe it or not, some people just enjoy being nude and aren't embarrassed by their own bodies or other's.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:17 AM
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49. Me neither, but that could have something to do with
where I live...

If it's not too cold, it's warm but there are biting flies. Then there's mosquito season.

I wouldn't wanna be running around in the woods flashing my lily-white ass during deer hunting season, either. Hunters think anything white is the back end of a fleeing deer and...

It's just not safe up here

:scared:

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 07:39 AM
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44. Guys might THINK they'd like this, but there's a reason movie full-frontal MALE nudity is RARE.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 07:40 AM by WinkyDink
I'll let y'all contemplate that one.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 10:51 AM
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52. Like I said, my wife and I ended up having dinner on the street with the Portland naked bike ride.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 10:51 AM by Warren DeMontague
I'm sure some people might have freaked the fuck out, but we thought it was pretty cool.

And I'm a guy, and no, seeing naked penises doesn't scare me, upset me, or make me melt like the wicked witch of the west, either. :shrug:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:32 AM
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47. Meh...
when you are cold you put on clothes.

who cares.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 08:41 AM
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48. Roughly a 3-1 ratio regardless of age group right now
admittedly there are not many Millennial responses so I am rounding pretty liberally there (but I am a liberal so I think I can get away with it).



Not a very big difference in generational patterns that I can see.



Maybe the choices should be:


1) I have a good body and I don't think it is a big deal

2) I don't have a good body and I don't think it is a big deal

3) I have a good body and I think it is a big deal

4) I don't have a good body and I think it is a big deal
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 02:10 PM
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56. If you post that poll, I'll vote in it.

Not to toot my own horn, but I'm 1).
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:44 PM
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58. If you can toot your own horn then you must be a 1
:evilgrin:
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 09:31 AM
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51. This thread needs more pictures of dog butts. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 10:52 AM
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53. And you don't know how to use google image search?
Remember, we are the ones we've been waiting for.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 02:12 PM
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57. Nude beaches are fine.
But naked people walking around cities, sitting on benches and bus seats, when they may not have wiped properly last time they used the bathroom, is just nasty. This is just as much a public health issue as anything. It's better when dried crusting feces stay in the underwear.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-11 03:49 PM
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59. I'm a 63 year old
and
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