I hope all Democrats see what's in store for America

[malaise]

because these scumbags have one goal - hide their differences and get rid of Obama.
Keep on helping them and this is what you'll get next year.

Time for Democrats to UNITE to prevent these ReTHUG scumbags from gaining power.

[Rosco T.]

1. Hope people remember this when they start on the ...

"I'm staying home"
"Obama has lost my vote"
etc...

[JuniperLea]

4. +1000!

We'll know who to thank.

[graywarrior]

10. [phone]

[Angry Dragon]

22. How about the president really starts standing up for

democratic values instead of just giving them lip service

How about if he starts giving the democrats something they can stand behind
instead of giving the republicans 98% of what they want

How about if he stands up as if he is the leader of this country

[EFerrari]

27. Hope Obama remembers it before he proposes tax cuts instead of

a real jobs program.

[HughBeaumont]

2. That's ALL I need - fascism AND The United States of Churchmerica.

And an economy that makes the 'Oughts look like a mere slump.

[JuniperLea]

3. You got that right, malaise!

This one evening with those freaks of nature should speak loud and clear. I'm still not over the 8 BushCo years... I'll be damned if I have any patience for any one of these stupid fucks.

[TeamsterDem]

5. Obama's got my vote and my support. eom

[spanone]

6. frickin' k&r..

[Nictuku]

7. Obama needs a decent majority in both house and senate

[Exilednight]

21. He had a decent majority in both the upper and lower chambers and was still not effective. n/t

[FLAprogressive]

26. If he had a 438-0 majority in the House and a 99-1 majority in the Senate the excuse makers would be

blaming the lone Republican for inaction.

[FrenchieCat]

8. Here that on their plan in terms of hiding their differences.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x699598

[malaise]

9. "GOP magaphone of pure lies"

Freaking perfect - thanks for the link FrenchieCat :fistbump:

[FarLeftFist]

17. Frenchie, you nailed it.

I too have been noticing how they have almost completely stolen our playbook.

[FrenchieCat]

24. They don't have any original good ideas, but they sure know how to steal....

in fact, that's mostly all that they do; steal.

[FarLeftFist]

35. The difference is though is that our hatred of Bush was merited because of what he DID do.

They hate Obama just because he's Obama. Shallow mindless idiots.

[Dawson Leery]

11. k/r

[pipi_k]

12. Yep, because as much as people are saying

how incredibly stupid Perry and Palin and Bachmann are, I don't think candidate stupidity will stop Republican voters from trying their best to elect ANY of them, no matter how idiotic they are.

And, from what we've seen in the past, I would say that being an idiot is probably a PLUS for them. We all know how they feel about the "intellectual elite", etc.


I have no doubt whatsoever that Republicans would vote for a garden slug if one were running. So it's really not encouraging to know how dumb most of the candidates are. It won't matter to Repubs whose major goal in life will be to rid the WH of Barack Obama in 2012.

[Zorra]

13. I already know all republicans are nuts.

I don't really want to, but I'll vote for Obama just to help make sure a republican does not get near the WH.

[mitchtv]

14. I think they will

I mean cheering Perry's execution record.Good Lord the whole lot of 'm, bonkers, evil too.

[noise]

15. "Keep on helping them?"

The Obama administration has been helping the GOP by justifying their austerity agenda.

How low is the expected standard of Democratic politicians? As long as they are better than Bachmann or Perry that is good enough?

[deacon]

16. Can't let the GOP get the white house. It really will be a doomsday scenario. n/t k/r

[democrat2thecore]

18. A big "What If" ... but think about it.

What if the only way to prevent a Republican sweep (WH, Senate, Congress) was to have Obama step aside as a candidate. Things get much worse and we'll be hearing a lot about LBJ's 1968 speech. And Humphrey damn near won it! Johnson would have been BURIED.

So, seriously, what's more important to you, if all the polls (including internal polls) continue to show a freefall:
1. Obama as the nominee.
2. Preventing a Republican president.

[BzaDem]

19. In 1968, the base was not solidly behind LBJ. Obama is currently doing better among Democrats than

every single President since LBJ (including LBJ). A vast supermajority of liberal Democrats support him. Sure, there are some that don't, but that will ALWAYS be the case regardless of the President (on both sides), and on the Democratic side the number is the lowest in 50 years.

[democrat2thecore]

20. That is WHY I asked the question.

I have no doubt Obama can have the nomination. The question is what if it were clear that his renomination would be political suicide?

What's more important to YOU?

1. Obama as the nominee
2. Preventing a Republican president

[BzaDem]

23. Preventing a Republican president is obviously the most important goal.

But I question whether replacing Obama in the primary will make preventing a Republican President any more likely.

If Obama does not voluntarily step aside, a primary would ensure the Democrats lose in November. While I would vote for whoever the Democratic nominee was, the split in the party would ensure its defeat and possibly cause permanent damage to the ability of the party to beat Republicans (at least for multiple election cycles into the future). Fortunately, I do not believe this would happen, since there is basically no constituency that could propel a primary challenger to the nomination. Obama's record support among the base is even more remarkable given that it has been achieved in such a bad economy.

But even if Obama was willing to voluntarily step aside, I still think we would do far worse with any alternative. Given the fundamentals, I think Obama is doing much better in the polls than anyone could have predicted, and many Americans who don't currently approve of his performance like him personally and want him to succeed. This, combined with all of the Republicans' embrace of the Ryan plan, may be enough for Obama to win even if the economy continues as it is. I believe Obama's re-election is at the very least more likely than not. But if it is not, I do not believe anyone else on the Democratic ticket could do any better.

[FrenchieCat]

25. If Obama is not the nominee....

we get a Republican President, and we will have him/her for at least 8 years.

If you think 90% of AAs are going to vote for an Obama replacement,
you're totally out to lunch!

Please stay away from political analysis.

[democrat2thecore]

28. AAs only vote on skin color? I don't get it -nt

[FrenchieCat]

29. No......since, if you hadn't noticed, we've only had one Black President.

I won't waste your time on this, cause you won't get it.

Good Nite!

[democrat2thecore]

30. You got caught, Frenchie!

Of course there's been only one black president. That's not the issue. Good try though.

I asked if Obama stepped aside as the nominee due to polls showing overwhelming defeat.....etc.

You said: "If you think 90% of AAs are going to vote for an Obama replacement, you're totally out to lunch!"

You then added:

"Please stay away from political analysis."

Another way of what you said is: "If you think 90% of AAs are going to vote for a WHITE replacement, instead of our BLACK president, you're totally out to lunch!"

Wouldn't you agree, Frenchie? How else could one possibly interpret your statement? WHY can't you just admit that your commitment to Obama is based on the color of his skin? In my opinion, you say it without actually "saying" it anyway.

Yes...I think my analysis is pretty good.

[FrenchieCat]

34. I'm not 90% of AAs.......

My commitment to Obama is based on a whole lot of things......
Just like my commitment to other Presidents I have supported in the past
has been.

My point is that African-Americans have voted for pretty much nothing
but White Folks till 2008, and they've had no problem with that....
Your problem is that people don't all think like you, and whatever you
might think of the President, there are plenty folks, both Black and others
who don't believe that this President has been criticized fairly and
in perspective, and they do believe that he deserves, as Bill Clinton
and Bush got, to have a 2nd term... and no, many will not come out to vote
for the replacement that you choose for them.

So what I'm telling you is just a simple fact, and you can make all of
accusations you want, but it will remain a fact,
which is why your analysis stinks like shit.

[democrat2thecore]

36. Wow

"...stinks like shit?" You do have a way with words. Are you sure you're that pretty lady on Twitter? I can't imagine some of the cursing coming out of someone so beautiful

[inna]

31. I'm almost (not quite) convinced that (one of) the main function(s) of these guys is

to make Obama look good (no, great!) in comparison. Sort of like Palin... except that the times are considerably much more extreme now (compared to 2-3 years ago), and someone like Perry (worse than Bush, literally!) has a real chance of being elected.

[sfpcjock]

32. Yes. And they've got dozens of ALEC voter ID laws percolating...

across the country, and which are being challenged in the courts. This is bad news in a close election that the "pundits" (who make their money from campaign 30 second ads) are predicting 15 months in advance. Conventional wisdom is just that. NOT wisdom.

[malaise]

33. 100% correct

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