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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:20 PM
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Seattle About To Have A 120 Year Weather Event...


Sunday will be the 9th day with a high temperature of 80 or more which will break a 120 year old record. Sunday also will be the first time the high is to be in the 90s...

Global warming who believes that crap..... :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:21 PM
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1. In 50 years, Seattle weather might resemble SoCal
And I'll move up to Vancouver and live out the rest of my days. (America will be a hell-hole by then)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:35 PM
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13. I was thinking even further north in Canada, because it's
going to keep creeping up.

But I won't be alive in 50 years anyway, but it's between now and then I'm not looking forward to.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:52 PM
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22. oh yay...I live in Austin, that means it will be like the Sahara here. :( nt
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 04:14 PM
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47. Don't worry. Governor Perry will just pray for rain
and God will get around to getting it to you any day now.
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pnwest Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 01:11 AM
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35. just moved to Wa from Az, I'm still radiating residual body heat...
It's my fault. I just moved here a month ago, I haven't seen any rain yet, I'm beginning to think that whole rainy Washington thing is a myth, LOL. I must still be radiating Arizona heat, creating my own weather system - at least until I finally cool off...got 13 years of Arizona to radiate away...¦]
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:40 AM
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43. August in Seattle is beautiful
but we're going to have to check back in Oct. when it's 45 and raining... once the raindrops hit... Arizona deserters are known for just melting away! lol
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:22 PM
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2. Kicked and recommended for listing weather events.
Thanks for the thread, rsmith.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:22 PM
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3. wait -- Seattle has *never* been in the 90's before!?
Wow...
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:24 PM
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6. not true
we were there in July one year and it was over 90. If there was a link, we could read the rest of the statement.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:29 PM
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9. first 90+ day of 2011
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:49 PM
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20. figured it was something like that -- so one "clue" will be the number of 90+ days Seattle gets
...close together, in the "future." Which seems to be about now.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:32 PM
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10. We hit the low 100's a couple of years ago for a couple of
days. Good thing I didn't own a gun!

We seem to have a little window of what people consider "beautiful" weather. They get all excited about getting into the 80's (although that's too hot for me :7) but once it nears 87 we're looking for a "break".
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:50 PM
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21. 87 is "balmy" here in L.A.!

;-)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:05 PM
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23. I know -- My best friend lives in North Hollywood (although
I'm supposed to tell people he lives in Santa Monica :rofl:) and he's been giving me the day by day. One day he was driving back from Santa Monica, where it was lovely, to NoHo and he watched the car thermometer climb and climb and climb...

Every once in awhile he'll call and say he misses the mist, fog and gray skies, but he's pretty acclimated. He'll go "it's 87 - beautiful day" and I just roll my eyes.

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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 01:13 AM
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36. 87 isn't nearly hot enough for me
Give me 93 all year around! :)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 04:08 PM
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46. Honestly, I don't know how you can stand it, just like you
probably can't understand why I love gray skies and 50 degree temps!

Even for people who love hot weather, isn't 93 a bit extreme??
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:43 PM
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29. Wow, I didn't know that.
I didn't even realize that you lived in Seattle.
I also didn't realize that 90º is "hot" for you guys.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 12:40 AM
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34. It's not just hot, it's Hell. nt
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:41 PM
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16. We typically see 80's-90's
in the last week of July and first week in August.

I was born in Seattle and have lived here my entire life. My birthday is July 28th. My childhood birthday cakes melted every year due to heat...
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 09:42 PM
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48. Lots of apartments and houses built west of the Cascades
don't have a/c - plays hell on those chocolate cakes. :)
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:23 PM
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4. umm previous was 120 yrs ago? random event nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:28 PM
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7. how do you know?
100% random?

:shrug:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:23 PM
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5. I remember seeing Almost Live on Comedy Central a few years ago ...
and their sketch "Seattle Summer". That was hilarious.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:34 PM
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11. I used to have an espresso cart and on the first sunny day
people would be running by toward the water in their shorts and tank tops, trudging home at day's end red as lobsters!

ANYTHING becomes "outdoor seating" when the sun shines. Throw out a few tables and chairs on the sidewalk in front of a bus stop and people will still say "let's eat outside!".

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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:24 PM
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31. Here you go...Seattle Summer
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:22 AM
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40. w00t! Thanks!
:hi:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:28 PM
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8. What do they call it when the sun shines in Seattle on the 4th of July?
Summer.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:43 PM
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18. I got hypotheria in Seattle one 4th of July.
True story.

And I do remember when it was 83 degrees one week, I was living in Wallingford district by Green Lake,
the neighbor was hosing down his house, everyone was melting!

Good times good times.

Typing this after a summer here in Ala. of 107 heat indexes. LOL.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:41 AM
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42. I find that hard to believe.
All of that stuff you said after you said "true story".
You're beginning to sound like a sailor.
You know they start all their sea stories with "this is a story, and it's all true", don't cha?

:rofl:
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 09:49 PM
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51. If Summer falls on a Sunday, Seattle-ites have a bbq.
I know, I used to live there!
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Jello Biafra Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:35 PM
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12. How will it affect the Washington Chardonnays?
Just wondering......
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:28 PM
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32. since they're grown 150 miles from Seattle
it won't.

it's always hot in white wine territory.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:37 PM
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14. Yes, and Russians keep finding more unfrozen wooly mammoths in Siberia!
Funny that so many have been found in recent years.

Baby Mammoth Discovered in Arctic Russia Perfectly Preserved
http://www.christianpost.com/news/baby-mammoth-discovered-in-arctic-russia-perfectly-preserved-54216/
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:39 PM
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15. The weather people announced yesterday it's another La Nina winter
We'll be buying some canned food; we got lots of snow last year in our hometown, which is 350 feet above sea level.

Climate change is here, whether people like it or not.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:41 PM
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17. Um...
Would you have said that global warming was the cause of the heat wave (if you can call it that) 120 years ago?
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IndyPragmatist Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 02:45 PM
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19. Exactly, we shouldn't jump to conclusions on everything
As noted, it did happen 120 years ago. This is the stuff that fuels right wingers criticism of CC and GW. There are often things that are a result of multiple normal variables that just come together to create an abnormal result.

I don't know exactly on this case. I don't have time to look at the data and figure out if anything other than the temperature is not normal.

I wish more scientists would have the balls to come out and admit that we have no clue how much damage we are doing, but we know we are doing damage. Whenever a climatologist comes out with a doomsday prediction that doesn't come true, it hurts all studies of climate.

Remember the UN predictions 20 years ago that said there would be huge numbers of climate change refugees by now...well, that didn't happen because temperatures didn't rise as quickly as they predicted. They still rose, just not at the rate they expected.

One thing that was pounded into my head by my college economics professors was "never be afraid to say you don't know." Anyone who respects economics understands that most predictions are just guesses. As an economist, I take what I do know, combine it with what may happen, and go from there. Anything I produce is taken as a guide and not fact. And my career has benefited greatly from this method.

But back to the topic at hand. Usually, if something is equaling conditions that have been previously recorded, it's not
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 03:07 PM
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24. actually it's more complicated than that
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 03:09 PM by mimitabby
we had one of the coldest Julys on record here in Seattle. We turned our heat on in June and July. While the east coast baked, we froze here. We were still wearing wool in July, the whole month passed without any warmth to speak of
here's a plot that shows the april to june average maximum temperature over the years

you can see just how cold it is, the last dot is this year. here's the URL for the blog I got that graph off.
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2011/07/cold-truth.html


So believe me, 9 days over 80 really IS a big deal.
We've had hot weather before, in fact, two years ago we had the hottest temperature ever recorded in Seattle, 104 degrees.
but the miserable heat only lasted a few days.
So just because the rest of the world is getting hotter, it doesn't mean that some places won't get colder too.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:35 PM
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27. A single weather event...nope...
What we have now is a PATTERN.

:banghead:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:29 PM
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25. Wow I've never seen the temp contours like this
Edited on Fri Sep-09-11 05:30 PM by Gregorian
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:31 PM
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26. But, but weather is not changing.
(Holy mother of god! That was predicted for a few decades from now)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:18 PM
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30. Delayed consequences, feeble 4th Estate, greed, irresponsibility
It seems that everyone i know is sauntering around the world. Looking at ice bergs in Alaska, hiking the Himalayas, my neighbor is in Turkey right now... I've been offered so many trips to so many places. A month in Moscow with my cousin the flight surgeon. I've turned all of them down. And especially on intelligent forums like this one, travel is seen as keenly important to one's education.

Well, I've declined to do it because I'd rather not use up the fuel. And all I've ever gotten for it is flak. I'd dearly have loved to have traveled the world when it was a slower more beautiful place. I saw this coming in the 60's. I've really suffered watching this. Well, I'm listening to radio out of Montpellier, France right now. I can enjoy without barfing out CO2.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 06:36 PM
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33. So, which do you think it is
this weather isn't caused by global warming, or the predictions aren't worth shit?
Could be both.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:07 PM
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53. Holy crap.
That looks like the surface of Venus.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-11 05:37 PM
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28.  last year it was over 100 in Wenatchee
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 02:38 AM
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41. You don't say?
I'm going to make fun of you for a week for saying that.

LoL
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 01:18 AM
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37. it's very muggy and humid here in sacramento today
still, at 11pm! T-storms predicted tomorrow.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 01:47 AM
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38. That is to make up for earlier this summer
Seattle area, up until last week, had one of the coldest summers on record!!!!
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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 01:53 AM
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39. plus rain into july on most of the west side. i couldn't get my garden in until late.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 10:59 AM
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44. The Denialists are out in force in this thread!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:19 AM
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45. As it becomes more concrete the denial will increase
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 09:47 PM
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49. Saw a possum in Minneapolis this week.
Animal and plant patterns are a strong indicator of climate change.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 09:48 PM
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50. I love the heat.
But I'm still not moving back. :)
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 11:06 PM
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52. The average temperature for the past three months in my area was over 90 degrees.
So, have an iced Starbucks and count your blessings.
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