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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 12:24 AM Original message |
To advocate raising the Medicare age is to advocate mass murder, period |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. screwing america in the name of corporate profits, congress and the white house in action nt |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. The CBO should also score the number of projected deaths as a result of each |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. and bankruptcies, and foreclosures, and |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. But a price the perpetrators are gleefully willing to pay |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. My dear eridani... |
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itsnotaboutu (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. tblue |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
73. Baby power |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. And it would save little to no money |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
4. OR they could tax the rich. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 05:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. And stop the wars. nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. The entire health care system is a mess. |
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ErikJ (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
6. Republicon Party Platform |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. +1000 n/t |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. What needs to be abolished is RepubliCONs and their HATEFUL agenda/policies. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. He understands alright. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Exactly! This will in no way (a)effect him or his...so why should be give a rat'$ a$$. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
9. And not one word |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
11. Amoral corporate shills. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
12. I'm going to go into business ...picking up dead old people in the streets. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. "Bring out yer dead!" |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. "But I ain't dead yet!" "Shut up, you soon will be!" |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. Agreed ! |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
14. Hey the average life expectancy for African American men is |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 07:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
72. But the life expectancy of an African American man at 65 is not 70.9; it's much higher |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. Good thing one of the current GOP candidates isn't President ... they all support |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
16. Mass Death, yes. Mass Murder, no. Murder has a specific definition. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Mass Manslaughter then |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
68. What about people who die by physician error or hospital acquired infection on Medicare? |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Already included? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. No |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
18. It will force group insurance to cover their people longer |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
20. No Republican could EVER get away with doing such a thing.... because |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
53. I have been saying that as well, it is the part about "We must elect a Democrat no matter how |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
21. We spare no expense in killing people overseas, but "just can't afford" saving them here. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
22. I could not agree with you more completely |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
23. Class based mass murder. k&r |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
24. +1 |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'm not sure why we ever expected any different |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. We should be lowering it to 55, not raising it and |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
80. +++++ |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. Yes, it's exactly mass murder |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Please define an action or inaction that results in the death of thousands, a parking violation? /n |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:42 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Any action could be said to result in the death of thousands |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You have got to be kidding me.../nt |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Over a million iatrogenic deaths a year, I am definitely not kidding you |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. You really believe that the elderly are "healthy" and more would die from health care than illness? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. 64 year olds do not die at a higher rate than 65 year olds |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
32. Non negotiable line in the sand. Now if you want to have Medicare for all we can talk... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. everyone should be covered, if they so wish. why not this instead of endless war? |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
34. Ronnie Raygun 2.0 ready to raise the age. |
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Jim_Shorts (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
36. Its beyond maddening |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
38. raise the damned taxes on the wealthy. your post is basically bringing to the forefront the |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
39. We need to REMOVE the provision that prohibits us from negotiating Rx drug prices FIRST! |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. Correct. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
41. Mass murder doesn't quite fit. Genocide fits. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
42. A "death panel?" |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
43. Agreed, but getting rid of the flax is what the rich want |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Huge K&R!!! |
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Yavapai (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. I cannot write here what I feel about this. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
47. Completely unsubstantiated fearmongering. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
49. DO NOT JOIN THE NATIONAL GUARD, KIDS! NOT WITH ALL THE ONGOING WARS! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
50. Deleted message |
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. Knowing you'll be one of them really sucks. |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
54. Psychopaths are giddy. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
56. Now, this one is true. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. Has Obama actually advocated raising the Medicare age, or is that just a rumor? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Yes, he has. It has been amply documented on this forum n/t |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Could you please post a link that quotes him specifically saying that? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. One of many-- |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Thank you. But it says "according to a briefing document prepared by House Majority Leader Eric |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 04:13 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. All Obama has to do to spike reports about what he said in negotiations-- |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 04:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. "According to five separate sources with knowledge of negotiations" |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Thank you. That information is troubling for sure. But before I am |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
58. Take action now! Get your weekly talking points at the link below |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Whatever happened to the DU activist corps? Remember when we were emailed |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-10-11 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
61. K & R! nt |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-11-11 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
70. damn right. thank you, Eridani, you're one of my favorite posters, btw. nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-12-11 03:54 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Mine too |
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