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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:47 PM
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Screw you Ford.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_mwjaEI_hM&feature=player_embedded

They are now appealing directly to Teabaggers so no money from me.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:51 PM
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1. wow. that was low.
they need to keep politics out of commercials. Ford may have been on solid footing, but the bailout of those other car companies saved thousands of jobs. I guess Ford wanted to be the lone US-owned car company.

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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:56 PM
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2. As low as you can get..


especially considering that while they didn't have to get bailout money to survive, they benefited from the bailout hugely - in that their parts suppliers stayed in business.


I was VERY disappointed seeing this.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:23 PM
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12. That may be the best point in this thread,
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 05:59 PM
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3. It isn't just teabaggers who will be pulled in by this.
Many people have paid attention (or have had their attention tuned in to the media) when Ford did not need a bailout. Now Ford is going to use that to their advantage. I suppose I can't blame them. They have pride in that.

Living in an area where a GM plant was saved from closing because of the bailout, I am so very grateful that they did get money to continue. We would have had ghost towns all over this area, or people in worse shape than they already are, without it. But I don't blame Ford...they realize that there are many who don't know that they were the only company who did not need the bailout, and they are going to let them know. It's marketing.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:03 PM
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4. Well, we can choose not to let them have money
from those who supported the "bailouts".
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:16 PM
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8. Absolutely right. I am just saying that the outrage
to this ad is over the top. It is just a commercial----and I am more offended by commercials that are completely dishonest and full of lies than I am with this one.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:05 PM
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5. as a company, why wouldnt they use that. a lot fo people are angry at the bailout
to the other two companies. ford was the one that did not want it, need it.

of course they are going to use that.

does it hit a lot of repugs, ya...

but i dont think their intent is to be repug supporter.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:07 PM
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6. The Story behind Ford's Press Conference Spots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO7vYtiZhFw&feature=related

There appear to be three commercials available on youtube, plus this story about how they were made.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:16 PM
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7. Well I'll stick with GM & my Mopars.......Fords Suck.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:19 PM
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9. I was in favor of the bailouts but plenty on our side were not.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:21 PM
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11. Well, Ford took none....so there you go. n/t
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:31 PM
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16. huh? I said I was in favor of the bailouts.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:21 PM
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10. I can't wait to see the you tube commercial that hyundai comes out with.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:23 PM
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13. Yeah, fuck Ford.
Their cars all look like shit anyway. They are always about 3 years behind the trends in car design anyway. GM has wonderful cars right now.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:28 PM
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14. Don't see the big deal.
GM made a commercial highlighting the fact that they repaid the loan early. Ford makes a commercial highlighting the fact they didn't need a loan. I don't see what's so offensive.
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Papagoose Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:28 PM
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15. I admit I favored Ford for not taking bailout money
But the point made about them benefiting anyway is spot-on.

I am disappointed to see politics in their commercials.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:31 PM
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17. Meh. It's true, many people support them on it, they're doing well -- why not advertise it?
Or should a company not tout its successes?
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:41 PM
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18. Without the bailouts
even though they did not take money directly they would have collapsed. The US economy would have been smashed totally. Even the shrub knew that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7791999.stm
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:25 PM
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23. it doesnt sound to me like they are dissing obama or the bailout but the fact that competitors
needed the bailout
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:45 PM
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19. A lot of hate in the comments.
At least Rush Limbaugh and Fox News are thriving.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 06:59 PM
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20. Ford did not have to go political
This ad was unnecessary. People of all political persuasions buy Ford vehicles, they have just alienated part of the population. Idiotic move.

I am going to write them now and let them know I won't be buying a Ford ever again.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:59 PM
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26. I don't see it as political at all.
They're proud of the fact that they were able to successfully manage their company through a time when their US competition was faltering. Why would they not want to advertise that?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:07 PM
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28. Their sales benefited from the bailout
Americans purchased more American cars. It was in poor taste.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:23 PM
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21. So which car company will get your money?
Be sure to check with us first to make sure they're DU APPROVED
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:24 PM
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22. why that would make old Henry happy.....
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:25 PM
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24. Ford provides same-sex partner benefits.
I read where the Talibornagain had been boycotting FoMoCo for doing so.

So maybe it's not all one-sided.*



*didn't watch the video, so take this for what it's worth.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 07:34 PM
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25. Hardly surprising... after Ford blamed Jewish Financiers for the outbreak of WWI...
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/ford1.html

Henry Ford, the industrial genius who perfected the mass production of motorcars before World War I and thereby revolutionized the way we live, was a reclusive man who brooked no opposition or criticism. Ford’s attempt to prevent unionism at his plants produced strikes and violence, mostly provoked by Ford’s own strikebreakers. He opposed various symbols of social and cultural change around him, including Hollywood movies, out-of-home childcare, government regulation of business, Eastern European immigration and new styles in dress and music. His anti-Semitism reduced him in 1927, for one of the few times in his life, to the position of acknowledging error and asking publicly for forgiveness.

...

Ford wanted to assert that there was a Jewish conspiracy to control the world. He blamed Jewish financiers for fomenting World War I so that they could profit from supplying both sides. He accused Jewish automobile dealers of conspiring to undermine Ford Company sales policies. Ford wanted to make his bizarre beliefs public in the pages of the Dearborn Independent. For a year, editor Pipp resisted running anti-Jewish articles, and resigned rather than publish them. Cameron took over the editorship and, in May 1920, printed the first of a series of articles titled “The International Jew: The World’s Problem.” (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/ford.html)

...


Henry would be proud of that ad...
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-11 08:02 PM
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27. I wouldn't buy from Ford anyway. I don't like companies founded by racist scum.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:16 PM
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29. Ford was ready to take the bailout. They were drawing up the papers.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-11 08:18 PM by JohnnyRingo
Then they found out the Obama administration wasn't the old school government that was about to deliver a bag of gold bullion without strings attached.

When Ford found out about the government sitting on the board with executive privileges and especially taking majority ownership, they couldn't peel out fast enough. Suddenly Ford was fine after all, mostly on the recent success of their Mustang and the #1 selling truck in the world, and decided they didn't need that "dirty" govt cash.

The commercial is deceptive, and as a liberal Democrat environmentalist I'm not going to buy one of those gas guzzling monster phallic symbols of a truck. Just like it's easy for Ford to take the high road on the bailout, it's easy to boycott Ford. Hahahaha
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-11 08:17 PM
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30. It's not targeted at teabaggers. It's true, they didn't have to beg the government to save them
Why shouldn't they be proud of that and use it against their competitors?
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