MacDonald’s food is substandard... so they're spending $1 Billion on decor

[sfpcjock]

MacDonald’s food is derived from evolved meat scraps, fake fries, GMO lettuce and laden with fat and chemicals. Solution? Spend $1 Billion on new decor!

You WISH it was softserve.

http://www.politicolnews.com/mcdonalds-makeover-needs-to-go-organic/"> MacDawnlds Makeover - Youngturks (video)

The joke is it's "eyesockets & @ssholes" but it actually tendons, eyeballs, muscle tissue crawling w/bacteria, washed in ammonia w/ artificial flavors and dyes used to make it LOOK like meat.

[Denninmi]

1. "Hey, That's Terrific Bass!"

"You use the bass, the whole bass, and nothing but the bass. No heading, no scaling, no gutting."

[Richardo]

4. !!

:D:thumbsup: + :rofl:

[spanone]

16. bass-o-matic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQFv83QJ2Y

[ScreamingMeemie]

2. I refer you to Snopes....

http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/msm.asp

McDonalds does not use MSM in their Chicken McNuggets. That's not to say that McDonalds is good for you, it's just not that. :)

[WCGreen]

18. And yet your post was overlooked because it doesn't fit the message...

It does go both way.

Thanks for pointing that out. I never eat that crap but it's good to know that it isn't as bad for you as people make it out to be...

[ScreamingMeemie]

21. You are welcome. My mother was actually a store manager for McDonald's

We forget, in our ridiculous outrage that, as companies go, McDonald's does a lot of good.

http://rmhc.org/


McDonalds was also my first job (thanks Mom) and it did give me good work ethics. It was, by no means, an easy job.

[MisterP]

23. "ridiculous outrage"?

[ScreamingMeemie]

24. It's quite ridiculous when a company isn't guilty of the horrors we accuse

them of, no?

[Lucian]

28. Giving to charities is a tax write-off.

They get that money back.

:eyes:

Do you think businesses actually give out of the kindness of their hearts? :rofl:

[Logical]

29. They get a percent back! Read about finance!

[ScreamingMeemie]

31. Do you really think they have to run Ronald McDonald House...?

:rofl:

Are you always this rude? :eyes:

[DeSwiss]

32. Corporation lie all the time. n/t

[ScreamingMeemie]

33. ...

:eyes: Sigh...

[Cirque du So-What]

3. I wouldn't eat a McNugget on a bet

but from what people who DO eat them tell me, McD's must add something that makes them highly addictive. To most of those who consume this slop, the video would make little difference to them.

[7wo7rees]

19. That chef Jamie Oliver came to the states to help kids eat heathier

He showed them how to cut up a cooked chicken and left the bones and cartilage in front of them.
He explained that those were pulverized to make nuggets, and asked, "Now how many of you still want to eat nuggets?"

They all rose their hands. He had never had that before. Lesson lost on our young ones. True story.

[EFerrari]

5. In the late 90s, I traveled a lot to see friends in the South West

and we found some McDs that were done up in various fine artists. There was a Monet McD's outside of Dallas and a Kandinsky McD's in Morgan Hill, iirc.

[KamaAina]

7. I would think Warhol would be more appropriate

:-)

[LeftinOH]

6. Whenever I see that photo I think "mmmm -strawberry frozen yogurt"...

then I remember what it really is. Yuck!!

[MineralMan]

8. Mmmm...Chicken McNuggets!

Parts is parts, by golly! All pink and yummy. Fry 'em up all nice and brown, dip 'em in your choice of sauces. Who could ask for more?

[Recovered Repug]

9. I hope that some of the money is spent expanding the size

of their booths. Otherwise, a 290 pound stock-broker might sue them, too.

[madmax]

10. It looks so pretty

until I read your text! Oh, so gross. :puke:

[sfpcjock]

12. Sorry...

OK, say you go to the MacDawnalds state laissez fair and ask for the deep-fried chicken guts? And what do you get? It is basically deep-fried pet food or meat slime. Nicknamed the "Pink slime" or "Meals Ready for Ebay". Scary, I know.

This stuff is notoriously in the beef, too. You can actually taste the ammonia and chemical degenerates in the premium "Angus Beef" hamburger which I used to buy. It tastes a little like anchovies after they've doused it with flavorings.

http://generationgreen.org/2010/02/hamburger-helper-slime-ammonia-and-cow-shit/"> Hamburger Helper? Slime, Ammonia and Cow Sh!t - Generation Green

[sfpcjock]

11. I kept WONDERING what they put into "MacNuggets"...

knowing that it couldn't be poultry that I'd been familiar with.

:rofl:

[Ikonoklast]

13. And in the entire history of the company, not one customer was ever forced to purchase their product

Being employed in almost every aspect of the food industry in this country, from wholesale, retail, restaraunt, manufacturing, and shipping, most people would stop eating ANY food if they knew what goes on when and how it is processed.

And that goes right up to the organic products I have in the back of my reefer trailer right this moment.

[Shandris]

14. McNuggets aren't made with this anymore. Still...

...I would never receive a warning if they went back to the 'old' way, so I'll never buy them. I've made a stand against most of these type of products in the last several months (although I didn't know patties were part of it...now they're gone too, as of today). I refuse to eat this...'product'. Probably a good thing I seldom eat much meat anyway.

Just watching the video makes me ill to my stomach. :(

[happyslug]

15. McDonalds has HIGH QUALITY FOOD

The real issue is what is "QUALITY"???

This was demonstrated by a marketing professor over 20 years ago to me, he talked about the time he and his family were on vacation and looking for a place to eat. He pointed out one place and someone objected, someone else pointed someplace out and he or another person in the car objected. Finally they came across a McDonald s, and they all said basically "It is good enough".

Why was McDonald's "goof enough"? Because everyone in the car KNEW what they will get when they bought something in McDonald's. No Surprises, either good or bad. That consistency is one way to define QUALITY and for most purposes the best way to define Quality.

Now, if you want to compare McDonald's to more healthy food, then McDonald's quality is lower, but in most places that serve healthier food, the consistency is more varied (Depending on the time of year and their source for their food) and you can object to such food sources on the ground that the food varies to much day to day and thus lack consistency and thus shows a lack of quality.

Just pointing out that to call McDonald's food sub-standard, means you have a different definition of quality then the people running McDonald's AND most people going to McDonald's.

Everyone wants better quality, but the term quality means different things to different people. The american quality expert. H. Edward Deming, the man who advised the Japanese in the 1950s to improve quality but improving their worse input. His advice was rejected by American Manufacturers but embraced by the Japanese Manufacturers, led to the vast difference in quality between Japanese and American products in the 1970s-1990s (since the 1990s more and more America Manufacturers have embraced the "Japanese" method of improving their worse inputs, so it is NOT as bad as it was in the 1970s-1990s).

Deming, if asked to improve education, would be first say look at your worse input and put MOST if not all of your effort at that worse input (which in most schools are children of people who themselves can NOT read, move two to three times a year, or otherwise live unstable lives do to a lack of income). Most schools reject this advice for the Political reality is that these same parents do NOT interact with the School officials and rarely vote. The people who do interact and vote want improvements on the other end of the student spectrum, i.e. the high achievers. Thus the push for the last 10-20 years has been to kick out the low achievers while providing special schools for the high achievers. The same thing American Manufacturers did in the 1950s and 1960s. We are slowly reaping what has been sowed, i.e. increasing drop out rates and a general decline in quality of education.

McDonald's can NOT be accused of the errors mentioned above, McDonald's has always looked at their worse input and tried to improve them. Sometimes such plans fail (as in the case McDonald's tried to control the temperatures of every deep fried in every McDonald's in the world, while the project failed, it shows the concern for quality McDonald's has for its product, consistent temperatures means consistent product, the weak point for French Fires was the Deep Fryer temperatures, so McDonald's tried to solve the problem).

Just a comment on the world "Sub-standard". That word implies low quality, but only if you look at the word quality in the sense of the best food for people. If you assume the word "quality" means something else, as in consistency, then McDonald's is one of the best example of quality in the world. When you enter a McDonald's, you know what you are getting, and in most of the Situations when people go to McDonald's that is the quality standard they are looking at NOT if the food is good for them.

More on Deming:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming

[sfpcjock]

27. The "nuggets" are made with "pink slime", because they're not

chicken meat as we know it.

The "premium" Angus Beef tastes like anchovies. If there is a new anchovie flavor that beef needs, I don't want to be paying for any more of it.

The fries contain acrylamide which is a known carcinogen. If you just saute some red potato slices in EVOO and a little garlic at low temperature you will find them infinitely better, even in taste, and the oil is not heat-killed like any fried item in McDs.

The shakes I do not trust at all and are full of USDA "safe" food coloring dyes made from coal tar and chemicals like aniline, a relative of benzene.

The McCafe expensive coffees have a nauseating after taste from the palm oil poison milk substitutes they add and I can't drink them, either.

They have a couple of items I still like: the green apple slices and yogurt sundae but the strawberries in it have a lot of fructose syrup, so not that healthy.

Sorry, but this menu needs a LOT of work.

[happyslug]

36. As I was trying to point out, that is YOUR definition of quality, NOT most people's nor McDonald's

You uses the term "Sub-standard" which implies poor quality. The problem is both terms, "Sub-Standard" and "Quality" are used to mean different things to different people. More often then not, the real dispute is what those terms mean.

Deming in his book gave a good example of this. In the days before the break up of AT&T in the 1970s, all phones were either "rented" or "leased" (This was a difference in up front costs and the subsequent monthly costs nothing else). In either service if customer wanted a new phone for any reason they had the RIGHT to request and get a new phone.

In those days a technician was talking to Deming about quality. He mentioned the number of times people called AT&T to get a new phone do to minor scratches on a phone. Scratches he could barely see. That was those customer's definition of Quality. Then on other unrelated calls, he would go into a house where the head piece would be in two pieces and he would tell the people they could get a new phone, but the people said the phone was working perfectly. As long as it worked, it was fulfilling their definition of quality.

My point is the same one Deming made when he wrote about that incident, to have quality you must first define quality. Quality to McDonald's and most of its customers means consistency in food. Your definition is on the quality of the food itself, a completely different definition of quality. Thus to you McDonald's food is below standards, but to most people and McDonald's itself, the food of McDonald's is a high quality product.

[Initech]

17. Fast food = crap food.

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. ...again, I refer you to Snopes...

http://www.snopes.com/food/prepare/msm.asp

[WildEyedLiberal]

22. Sorry, this post causes too much cognitive dissonance for this thread

Therefore it shall be summarily ignored.

Geez, McDonald's isn't the devil, people. It's not "good" food, but eating it once a month won't kill you, and you aren't eating ground up chicken eyeballs and beaks in your nuggets.

[flvegan]

25. It's funny that more folks focus on the photo and not the facts behind the post.

Sounds of...apologist, if you ask me.

It's shit, deal with it, regardless of how it looks coming out of the machine.

Nutrition, totally lost on this lot.

[sfpcjock]

38. lol

I think the article mentions that BPI Pink Slime is included in 60% of beef products, too. You actually have to ask your butcher whether or not they allow it, or try and buy organic.

[JCMach1]

26. If you read "Fast Food Nation" you will find some of the weird effects that McD's has had

One of those, ironically, is that the food 'system' McDonald's has helped create makes their food some of the safest to eat. However, that same system is much less safe for everyone else.

i.e. your supermarket beef is much more likely to give you e-coli.

McDonald's is often the whipping boy, but the truth is the crap food industrial complex completely dominates the nutrition landscape.

McDonald's in that view is just another player at the table.

Maybe we should just insist (as consumers) that the $$$ spent on the makeover be spent on American products.

[Logical]

30. It amazes me how gullible people are.

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[MrSlayer]

35. A billion dollars worth of renovations means a lot of work.

Too bad it's happening in Canada.

[woo me with science]

37. That's what corporations do. It's also what corporate political parties do. nt