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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:40 AM
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I couldn't help but think of Terry Schiavo last night when
the repulsivcan audience cheered letting a person with no insurance die.

About as great an example of hypocrisy as one would ever hope to see.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:43 AM
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1. their entire platform is an exercise in hypocrisy
in my opinion.
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:43 AM
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2. Very good point.
Republican lawmakers rushed back to Washington to vote to prevent Terry Shiavo's husband from humanely ending her suffering.

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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:46 AM
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3. Wolfie's follow up
should, indeed, have been, "What about Terri? Isn't that a contradiction? And what about an uninsured FETUS?!!"
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:05 AM
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5. I don't remember insurance being an issue with Terri Schiavo...
when their hard-earned dollars are at risk the pro-lifers soon change their tune.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:09 AM
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8. She had won a substantial lawsuit, IIRC.
So, you're right, money was not the driving factor. But I wonder who they expect to pay for pre-natal care for all those fetuses they want to save.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:21 AM
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9. Pray to Jesus...
God will provide for the truly faithful!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 12:15 PM
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14. That's an interesting question. On one hand, they'd likely say...
that the fetus is innocent and didn't choose to be uninsured.

On the other hand, that means the parent must have made a poor decision -- in their eyes -- and does that mean the children should suffer?

If they say no, then that brings up the Dream Act as well as various social services they want to demolish.

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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 07:54 AM
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4. Me, too
nt
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:05 AM
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6. Very true, but hypocrisy is also a natural product of percieved changed circumstance.
Perceptions of circumstance can result from real change or simply a change in the scope of information considered. The implications of perceived change can be seen at levels of global personal problem solving. Those things which were advocated under an original state of perception will no longer be advocated when perceptions transforms into a changed state.

This is consistent with the best defenses against accusations of hypocrisy being to argue either that circumstance has changed or that available information about circumstance has changed.

It seems that one of the few things that will remain constant amid shifting perceptions is that, the individual usually promotes self-interest under all states of perceived circumstance (rare acts of seeming altruism not withstanding).



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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:05 AM
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7. These are the kind of clips we need to put back to back on the screen.
Show them how illogical they are.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:24 AM
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10. The Republicons did their hypocrisy thing in Group Formation last night
Their Terry S. flip-flopping hypocritical betrayal (R) should be noted by all Americans -- because it is standard for Republicons in These Latter Days.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 08:26 AM
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11. Would be interesting to find one and ask them, had
Schiavo had no insurance, should she have died?

And should pregnant women who would have to go on welfare get abortions? Even if they want the child?

Their true agenda is always some other thing.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 12:12 PM
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12. Oh my god what a realization.
I'm disgusted!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 12:13 PM
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13. But was her care being paid for by taxpayers in any way?
Isn't that what their reply would be?

I don't remember the specifics of that case, though I tend to block out uber right-wing craziness after a few years.

:eyes:

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 12:17 PM
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15. that's not the question I'd put to them: I'd ask them should she have died
if she hadn't had the family/personal resources to pay for her care.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 12:18 PM
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16. You're absolutely right. There's an interesting point above, too. :) n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:16 PM
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20. I found out last night she was on Medicaid. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:15 PM
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19. She was on Medicaid. I posted it a couple of times last night
because she immediately came to my mind, too so I went lookin'.

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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 09:32 AM
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25. Interesting. Thanks. :) n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 12:21 PM
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17. K&R..
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 04:34 PM
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18. kick for afternoon crowd. n/t
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:21 PM
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21. Spot on, Cali!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:24 PM
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22. They seem to forget history.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 12:01 AM
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23. Remember the protester with the giant spoon to feed Terri???


:banghead: :banghead: :wtf:
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 12:03 AM
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24. Only people with the money to be kept on life support have a right to life
That's the GOP mantra.
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