Why does "bleed lead" at DU? The 9/11 jumper story is still here!

[banned from Kos]

As are many other DOOM stories long past their expiration date!

Chill out!

[quinnox]

1. I'm starting to see why you were banned from kos

no offense, but damn!

[uppityperson]

17. +1

[neverforget]

27. +100

[rfranklin]

2. but we do have you to post really fascinating things...

educational and entertaining!

[LeftyMom]

3. The jumper article is interesting and thought-provoking. This thread not so much. nt

[hlthe2b]

4. I would like to point out as that is MY posting...

That this is the first really indepth article trying to look at the phenomenon and the attached stigma. The article transcends 911 because it allows us to view the humanity associated and the choices we make--when all those choices are equally horrific. It also lets us explore why choices in death are so taboo--even when death is inevitable.

The article also looks at how the families have dealt with the issue and the surprising breadth of reactions. Some family members were actually comforted by the thought that their loved one may have made a conscious decision to control how they met their fate. It also looks at the ethics of including the stories of these individuals and limited photos in a isolated area of the 911 museum--while giving visitors the choice to view or not.

In short these are human issues that far extend beyond 911. It is clear you did not read the thread, nor the article to which it refers.

In short, you jumped to conclusions and decided to deride other DUers for your own agenda. I say shame on you.

[banned from Kos]

5. Fair criticism - well phrased too

I "derided" no one - but your comment wins anyway.

[hlthe2b]

7. Ok... I hope you won't jump to conclusions next time...

Peace

[amborin]

10. it was also a beautifully written article; also shows how US media sanitizes, as this was widely rep

orted in Europe and worldwide

[NYC Liberal]

28. It's not just the media's fault. A lot of people here don't want to hear about it.

There were some very negative and angry reactions when the media did initially report on it and show the images in the immediate aftermath.

[Name removed]

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[lapislzi]

8. The "hide thread" button is your friend. n/t

[leftstreet]

9. Thanks for bringing the story to my attention. Missed it n/t

[msongs]

11. if it's so bad why did YOU post about it in yet another thread about it? nt

[City Lights]

12. "Chill out!"

You first, banned.

[Raine]

13. People are interested in it

you're the one who needs to "chill out".

[MadHound]

14. And here you are, starting another thread about it.

Hmmm.

[pintobean]

15. How many?

How many boards have you been banned from or don't meet your approval? Maybe you should start your own so you can make the rules.

[Logical]

16. How about you hide the thread and then STFU.

[NNN0LHI]

18. Because the people who are hurting the worst from this economy were gone from DU a long time ago

Computer stopped working and couldn't afford to get it fixed? Couldn't afford a connection to the Internet? Lost their homes? Whatever?

The people with most at stake have lost their voices here.

That is why we have 911 jumper threads, cow in the driveway threads, coyotes in abandoned houses threads and other such nonsense.

We are being spammed by people who are not hurting and have nothing better to do than peddle bullshit in their spare time.

That way we aren't talking about important subjects that actually effect peoples lives.

Don

[Mimosa]

19. I've thought that too, Don

I looked at my buddies list and noticed that well over 60% are no longer posting on DU.

I only clicked this topic because it has an attention getting headline. *shrug*

[pintobean]

20. Your insults are getting old.

We can chew gum and walk....

[Name removed]

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[hlthe2b]

21. Wow Don... That was my thread and I stand by its value that transcends 911.

I've not known you to so cavalierly offer such blanket condemnation. See my post upstream (#4) describing what the article article and thread was actually all about as it appears you have not read the thread or its linked article. If you still feel that way, fine, but kindly take the time to at least read and know what it is you are criticizing. The article discussed in that thread is NOT gratuitous nor sensational. It is beautifully written and stimulated some very thoughtful and considered discussion. It presents a theme that is as old as mankind itself-- how we deal with death, our own and those of others and the taboos associated. Hardly a trivial or vapid issue.

The specific aspects discussed are difficult for many to contemplate. For this reason (and despite the article being sensitively written)I worked very hard to make sure that I posted in such a way to allow DUers to choose (or not) to go to the link and then the article, and finally to the photo (which I did NOT embed). I offered a very brief, but comprehensive overview of what the article was all about to allow those clicking on the thread the ability to decide whether they wanted to go further.



I'm really sorry to be lumped in your categorical condemnation, as I don't believe I deserve to be. If you take the time to read the thread and article and still feel there was no value, then I misjudged you all these many years. :shrug:

[Generic Other]

22. Have to agree

I still miss all the links to articles I used to be able to follow. A thread would start with a question or an assertion and it would be supported with links to many sources. Other DUers added more links and the thread ended up bookmarked. We should have a bookmark thread sometime. The best of DU.

on edit: I thought the thread on the "jumpers" was a valid one. Many of us never knew the real story and have always remembered the horror.

[seabeyond]

24. i would say 95% of the threads on first page addresses the issues you are talking about. nt

[Name removed]

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[hlthe2b]

31. I guess I really have misjudged you

Hit and run? Really, Don? :shrug:

[seabeyond]

23. wtf? lol, really? you are telling people what to post and when theya re allowed

ah hahaha

that doesnt work, you know

[WilliamPitt]

26. Fail.

[Withywindle]

30. I thought the 9/11 jumper story was moving, valuable, and important.

Way more than this post.