Hey guys! Keith's TV rating has dropped to a new low. Now is the time for us

[Cal33]

to help out by simply switching on to Current TV, even it's only for a few minutes, Mo. - Fr.
between 8 & 9 p.m., before returning to your favorite program. Democrats don't yet have a
powerful TV station. We're lucky to have any Dem. TV station at all. Let's all help to make
it into a powerful one. Now is the time when we are all needed!

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/08/11/television-us-keitholbermann-idUKTRE77A6WR20110811

[truebrit71]

1. I DVR and/or watch his show nightly....

...I don't think there's anything wrong with the show, and the fact that he has any size audience at all is remarkable given the 'handicap' of being on a relatively small and unknown network...

[gateley]

6. I think DVR-ing "counts" in the tabulation, but only if you

actually watch it after it's recorded? Something like that. I recall (obviously not too well) Ed talking about it and encouraging people to record his show.

[librechik]

60. Current TV is going to operate without ratings for a long time. Encourage Keith

and get over it--they aren't even on all cable systems yet. Their problem is to keep on making quality news TV and ignore the ratings. Apples and Oranges people.

Keith is in for the long haul. They are building a broader news identity with keith as head of the news division, and that will take time. He's only been there 3 months or so.

[Cal33]

66. Yes. I guess it will take time. But, the earlier the better.

[gateley]

117. Well put and realistic. nt

[skorpo]

170. I seldom find Current TV when I travel.

I sure miss seeing Keith when I'm not at home. This week I'm in Missouri and the cable @ my hotel doesn't Current TV or MSNBC.

[rhett o rick]

93. How do they know if you watch or not? nm

[gateley]

116. I don't know -- I don't even know if I'm recalling this correctly,

but that's what I seem to remember.

[awoke_in_2003]

128. If you have cable or satellite...

(which you would have to to see Current) then it is easily tracked by the provider.

[ffr]

150. Current isn't a channel that's offered by our cable provider

Coincidentally, I also live in the heart of Republicanland. I miss KO so. I feel like I want to boycott MSNBC for what they did. I want him back on a channel I can view!!

[dixiegrrrrl]

210. I watch on line.....

the shows run online later in the evening.....
So does Rachel, so does the Daily Show, Colbert, most of the stuff on tv can be found online after it airs on tv.

[rucognizant]

221. dixiegirrrrl.......WHERE?

I can't find it. I get regular e-mail prompts from Current & have yet to watch the show there.( online) I have to count on video reruns here or on Huffington Post.

[dixiegrrrrl]

224. here:

http://current.com/

[awoke_in_2003]

127. This is what I do...

I work second shift. I head home, grab a beer, and watch KO before bed.

[Bozita]

145. iirc, it must be watched within *X* hours - an effort to include timeshifters

Don't ask me how they'd know.

[B Calm]

177. I DVR his show and watch it everyday!

[Bendra]

219. I think you have to watch a recording

within a time frame for it to count. A week?

[Cal33]

11. I do, too. But we know that the Repubs. own 90% of all news media. We

could all try to help Current TV become a major station -- the sooner
the better.

Hope you people reading this post, will kick it up every now and then, so
that as many DUers will get to read it and help out as possible. Thanks.

[WCGreen]

67. And one not in HD....

[awoke_in_2003]

129. Do we really need HD news? nt

[ldf]

185. uh, i hate to be really shallow

but when you blow up a lower cable channel (non-hd) picture to 60 inches, it is not very pleasant to look at.

i watch keith, but it is so much easier on the eyes to watch hd channels. (and keith is full screen, not widescreen...)

that IS why i got the large screen. i don't watch sports, but the hd sports channels are absolutely incredible. and the hd shopping channels...

:shrug: bottom line, usually, if it is not hd, i don't watch it.

[awoke_in_2003]

241. not shallow...

I just didn't know how it would look on a HD TV, as I still haven't gotten one yet. I may hold off.

[KoKo]

156. You can also WATCH ONLINE.,..at This Link:

http://current.com/shows/countdown /

[Me.]

2. They Need To Add Other Political Shows

KO is too isolated

[ncrainbowgrrl]

4. totally agree! (n/t)

[gateley]

7. You are so right! nt

[Cal33]

15. Yes, he is. Surely he knows it, and has it in mind to hire others. But who knows

what kinds of problems he might be facing? I think it's
only a question of time. And having a larger audience
would help him to reach that goal sooner.

[glinda]

26. MSNBC is buying up the talent on contracts.

[Me.]

38. There Are Plenty Of Other Talented People

IMHO he has superior guests and not the usual line-up of suspects

[me b zola]

248. Like Cenk for example

:)

[Enthusiast]

47. That could only help. nt

[peace frog]

113. Right on!

[Capitalocracy]

192. Maybe they could just sort of stick TYT on there

:shrug:

[Gold Metal Flake]

3. People are unreccing a thread encouraging folks to watch Olberman.

And that's the way it is.

[gateley]

9. We need a Shaking Head smilie. There's just no explanation

for this. RATIONAL explanation, anyway. *shaking head*.

[Cal33]

19. Probably a Republican mole posing as a Democrat. The next time

you see one doing it, unrecc. him/her, too.

[rhett o rick]

95. What? How do you "see" someone unrec'ing someone? nm

[Enthusiast]

48. Well Keith does sometimes

imply that the President isn't perfection incarnated.

[awoke_in_2003]

135. I know...

the horror, the horror (in my best Brando imitation) :rofl:

[Shining Jack]

222. +1

[awoke_in_2003]

131. Certain cheerleaders...

attempted to throw Keith under the bus a while ago. Of course he didn't fit, he has a big head :)


(this isn't a slam- I have a big head, too)

[Enthusiast]

226. (this isn't a slam- I have a big head, too)

Me too. I have actually been told this by certain tactless people.

[harmonicon]

211. People are unreccing a thread encouraging folks to watch TV. nt.

[Dawgs]

216. I am so sick of that stupid argument. TV is not evil. n/t

[Gold Metal Flake]

225. Prove your theory.

[harmonicon]

232. Well, I was sick of seeing this thread on the front page...

so I decided to click on it and see if it contained anything interesting. It didn't. It was just some thread - as the title suggested - encouraging people to watch TV, so I hit that unrec button. Happy now?

[Gold Metal Flake]

234. Oh. You wanted to appear as though you were part of a group...

...but you represent only yourself. That's OK. Pathetic, but OK.

[harmonicon]

235. No...

I quickly read down the list of comments, and others agreed with me. I didn't come across anything that struck me as an interesting discussion. Sorry to disappoint.

[Gold Metal Flake]

238. It's OK. Every post kicks the thread.

You could have used "hide thread" of course, LOL.




Keep kicking the thread.

[harmonicon]

243. Kick for the dancing badger. nt.

[Cal33]

239. You missed even the main point. Current TV is the only Democrat-owned TV-station, and

it's only a small, budding one. 90% of newsmedia are Republican-owned.
I had read that Olbermann's Countdown TV rating was dropping, and thought
of bringing it up here to ask DUers for help in pushing it up. Olbermann
started working at Current only 3 months ago (June 20, 2011). And DUers
here have heartily responded.

Apparently we'd all like to see at least one Democrat-owned small TV station
make it, and hopefully become a major one. The more Democrat-owned newsmedia
there are, the better would we be able to fight against the Republicans'
propaganda and lies. Right now we are pretty helpless in this respect.
And our helplessness helps the Republicans to win.

[harmonicon]

242. I disagree.

I own a tv, but I don't watch tv. I watch some things on the internet from time to time, and lots of movies. I have no interest in supporting television news of any stripe, but especially ANY politically biased media. I think journalism should actually be impartial for the most part. Olbermann's show has always just been commentary, and I've never really seen the point.

So what if the Republicans dominate? If the Republicans dominated the market for something else that I thought was pointless I wouldn't think there should be some Democratic form of that pointless thing to compete with them.

[Cal33]

244. "I think journalism should actually be impartial for the most part.."

Yes. I agree with you there. The present day journalism of the mainstream media
is anything but impartial, and it is 90% Republican-owned. Their non-stop
propaganda has half of our nation brain-washed into believing their lies. This
is what the Democrats have to fight back against. We don't want to come to the
point where ALL of our people have become brain-washed automatons, do we?

[harmonicon]

245. No, but this kind of thing just gives the right a foil.

MSNBC, Current, etc. aren't actually that liberal, but they give a face to the lie that there are different voices in the media. I would rather have people just come out in other methods to decry the republican-controlled television "news" than try to compete with it on its' terms.

[Cal33]

247. Right now the news media is 90 to 10 in favor of the Republicans.

It would be more fair to have it 50-50, so that the people would
have an even chance of looking at both sides of the picture, and
then make up their own minds.

[harmonicon]

252. I couldn't disagree more.

Somehow, in this crazy world, I was able to make up my own mind about things without having cable news influence me. I remember being a kid and not understanding why my parents were voting for Dukakis, because TV had made it clear that Bush was better. I also remember being very young and being confused by the coverage about Palestine, because the news (I just mean NBC/ABC/CBS here) made it clear that the Israelis were the good guys, but on tv it would show them standing on towers with machine guns shooting at children who had rocks. Somehow I made up my own mind then, and later on in life.

In part, it was probably my dissatisfaction with the mainstream information available to me as a teenager that got me interested in leftist politics. Somehow I doubt any tv news network would encourage kids to read Marx, Debord, Proudhon, etc. There is no 50/50, and perpetuating the idea that there are just two sides just helps keep people uninformed. I can't remember who said it recently, but it was something along the lines of the fact that a two party system was even better than a one party system for maintaining a totalitarian state, as it gives the people the illusion of choice when they really have none. If there were only one party, people would wise up. We have that in our government now. I don't think we need it in our news media as well.

[Cal33]

258. True, there is no 50-50, but it's a good thing if the American were offered

the chance of 50-50. It's up to the people to chose. Right now the chances
are 90-10. Too much one-sided. By the way, I am all for having more than
two major parties only. It would be wonderful to have 4 or 5, but we can't
even make it 3.

[Le Taz Hot]

5. Current TV, in most areas,

is included only with subscription to an upgrade package. A lot of people I know, including myself, have cut down to basic cable if they haven't canceled it altogether. I don't think it's Keith's popularity so much as economic that's at play here.

[Fla Dem]

99. Agree, I have HD Digital Starter tier with Comcast.

But I would have to drop HD and go to Digital Preferred to get Current. As Comcast now owns MSNBC they certainly will not make Current available to the broadest audience and put it in competition with their shows. Corporate control of what we see.

[Fla Dem]

100. Agree, I have HD Digital Starter tier with Comcast.

But I would have to drop HD and go to Digital Preferred to get Current. Current is not avaialbe on their HD line ups, even the next tier up. As Comcast now owns MSNBC they certainly will not make Current available to the broadest audience and put it in competition with their shows. Corporate control of what we see.

[KamaAina]

143. Same here.

All the way across the country in CA. I sure as hell am not upgrading my package to get one channel! :grr:

[xxqqqzme]

187. I'm in SoCal - time-warner

Current is basic cable on TW.

[quinnox]

8. current tv is rather obscure

Keith will be confined to basically total obscurity unless he can get back to a more visible network.

[Cal33]

24. I believe the main objective of ALL DEMOCRATS should be to help make

Current TV into a MAJOR STATION. It is the only station that Democrats have.
If it should fizzle out, who knows when we will have another Democrat-owned
TV station AT ALL?

Let's do our best to help out WHILE THIS OPPORTUNITY IS HERE! Let's not waste
this golden opportunity!

And many thanks.

[Enthusiast]

49. Right on! nt

[YvonneCa]

119. I wholeheartedly agree. Have the TV on...

...daily and IF YOU DON'T HAVE CURRENT TV, regularly call/email your provider and politely request it. Relentlessly. :7

[xxqqqzme]

189. I have been enjoying the

50 Documentaries to See Before You Die series as well as the docs that are being shown.

[ecstatic]

213. If they get some real knowledgeable democrats on, I'll watch

KO is not knowledgeable. He's just a sports announcer who doesn't vote. I did watch him every now and then when he was on MSNBC, but I'm not going to go out of my way to watch him.

[KoKo]

157. Not Really ...He has a great New Show with David Schuster & Others...HERE:

Check out the COOL STUFF THERE!

http://current.com/shows/countdown /

[me b zola]

249. I believe the idea is to bring Current more viewers

...and it won't be so difficult to view. Keith is the person to do that, we just have to tune in if we have cable. I gave up cable when Keith left msnbc, but i watch on-line when I can
.

[barbtries]

10. i don't watch tv

but i can kick and rec your thread. best of luck to keith and all the lefty pundits, may they ever expound. and may some day the country listen.

[Cal33]

Thanks for the kick. :)

[Cal33]

25. Thanks for the kick. :)

[NewJeffCT]

12. Dish Network could be a problem

A few weeks ago, they had a big message that Current TV was moving from Channel 196 to 294 (or something like that)

However, it doesn't look like the move went through when I went to watch earlier this week.

[kentauros]

28. I noticed that

and wondered wtf was going on. They went from 196 to 294, but it doesn't look like they've moved back from 294, either. Although I prefer Dish over anything else like it, I have to wonder what their reasons were for making the switch at all. It's not like 294 is anywhere near the news block, making it look very suspicious...

[Ganja Ninja]

34. It has gone through but now it's on both channels.

Ovation was moved at the same time too and now it's on both channels. Probably by the end of the month the old channels will discontinue current and ovation and something will replace them.

It is interesting that they moved current away from the bulk of the other news channels. Now you have to surf past all the shopping and religious channels to find it on the programming guide. At 196 you were only 4 channels away from CNN on 200.

[Enthusiast]

50. It is on 294. nt

[godai]

51. No, Current is on Dish 294.

[NewJeffCT]

55. It was on 196 before - close to the other news channels

and is still on 196.

CNN is 200, MSNBC is 209, Fox and CNBC are between 200 and 209, CSPAN and CSPAN2 are 210 and 211.

[louis-t]

122. It went through. I have it on 294.

Make sure you go to 'All Channels' when you look for it.

[NewJeffCT]

208. It was on 196 with a msg that it was moving to 294

however, it's still on 196 and no longer has the message.

[louis-t]

230. That's weird. I deleted 196 from my favs

when I switched it over.

[KoKo]

13. You can get current TV and Keith

on a $59.00 ROKU BOX. Works on older TV's that aren't hi def. Don't need cable. For those without cable or basic it opens up the world. I have basic and couldn't get Current..but, now I can with the box. Plus I get international news and Democracy Now and so much other stuff.

[Loge23]

20. good tip! (eom)

[Cal33]

29. I think this is important information. I suggest that you write a separate

post of your own so that more people would get to read it.

[oldhippydude]

111. heres where i go when i ant watch on tv

http://current.com/shows/countdown/

[Frisbee]

106. Just ordered one...

Should have it tomorrow!

[KoKo]

162. I loved my first I got a month ago...Just ordered the second...Private Channels..

be sure you check out the Private Channels. "NoWhereTV" and "Justin TV"....plus the rest... It's incredible the selections. :hi:

International News: Irish, German, Al Jazerra, BBC, FRENCH 24 plus much more International News...and in English (the ones I mentioned) and if you can speak languages the world out there is your playground. Documentaries...Conspiracy...Science...NASA...Public Radio here and International...plus the American Networks shows like "60 Minutes" and the rest...along with CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC...and Huge amounts of other stuff PLUS FREE MOVIES via CRACKLE and CLASSICS/SCI FI...ANIME...on and on and on.

CONGRATS on your ROKU! It's made my life bearable as an escape from American MSM...for now.

[Frisbee]

166. Thanks for the heads up on things to check out!

You cann never have too many channels to chose from!

[druidity33]

141. that assumes

you have a decent internet connection, no? I have a Satellite dish and it limits my bandwidth to 250 MB PER DAY. I can only watch about 15 minutes of video before i start endangering my ability to surf for the rest of the day.

:(

[Suich]

154. I've got a Roku box but only get

"Best of" Current, not KO. Am I doing something wrong?

[KoKo]

158. Are you using both "JUSTIN TV" and "NOWHERE TV?"

It's a bit of work but you can get Current and Keith's Latest from both or one of the two to your preference.

Have you gotten into the "Private Channels" on ROKU? :shrug:

[Suich]

167. JustinTV used to show KO (Current) but now they show FOX.

Just added Nowhere TV to my lineup.

What I know about Roku would fit on the head of a pin!

Thanks!

[KoKo]

169. "NOWHERE TV" is the best selection + be sure to enter in your Favorites. BTW..re Faux News

ROKU just announced their FOX NEWS Lineup...but it's only a small portion of the FEAST on there. You have to get used to the way it works with tinkering.

They also have "Alex Jones Channel"...LOL's so that sort of balances out FAUX.

It does take a bit to get used to to click in your "Favorites" but the Remote is really one of the best I've ever used...for ease of use.

[KoKo]

175. Also for Keith on Current...see "Daily Kos" suggestion for ROKU watch:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/21/987446/-How-to-watch-Current-TV-on-ROKU

[KoKo]

168. Also, ROKU Newscaster. Just Google the ones I mentioned and it will

go to ROKU FORUMS...and you can just enter the code into your ROKU site...and you are golden.

NOWHERE TV...is my FAVE for all the International News. You've got to play around with it all. I'm a clueless and managed to get it all together..and you younger and techie will be faster than me...but I just love my ROKU BOXES!

[Greybnk48]

14. I record it and watch it every single night.

It's carried on Time Warner, and I don't have a premium package. Can it be watched on the computer? Keith has the best, highest quality guests on any news show on T.V., cable or otherwise.

[Cal33]

31. I vaguely remember having read that Keith can be watched on computer.

[oldhippydude]

112. here you go

http://current.com/shows/countdown/

[KoKo]

159. Absolutely and a Link Again!

http://current.com/shows/countdown /

[Broderick]

16. K and R

[progressoid]

17. Doncha need to be part of Nielsen ratings family to make a difference also?

[Cal33]

33. I was under the impression that all TV stations were automatically

under the Nielsen ratings. I could be wrong.

[originalpckelly]

37. The poster means you have to have the device used to calculate the ratings to be of any use.

[RockaFowler]

44. Nielsen has so few people in each area

The problem with ratings is that it is not always indicative of what people are watching.

For example - a lot of younger people in dorms are never counted. Most of all sporting events are only estimated due to viewers at Sports Clubs. None of the internet viewers are ever counted - EVER. So if you watch a show exclusively online, your numbers will never appear in a Nielsen report.

And finally, Nielsen Ratings are based upon a select amount of people in one general location. In my area, Palm Beach County to the Treasure Coast in FL, there are 369 people who determine what the ratings are for over 1 Million people. I work in TV, I know a little about the ratings - and they stink!!

[truedelphi]

87. My family was actually asked to be a Nielsen family back in the nineties.

That surprised me, as I am so cynical I thought it was all made up.

However, when I explained that I was with elderly people four nights out of five, and that my son was therefore at his best friend's house most of those nights, and we asked if we could still somehow be part of the ratings, and they said no.

So it does show that only "normal" people who are home every day can participate.

The other thing is that the networks want a certain demographic. Even though it has been demonstrated that the 18 to 38 yr old crowd doesn't "build brand loyalty" nor are they more influenced by TV ads, the networks still play to this demographic. Back in 1994, the "Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman" program with Jane Seymour had over twelve million viewers, but because they were mostly older people, the network that the show was on terminated the program.

[Cal33]

98. Very interesting! I am learning new things all the time.

[jwhitesj]

134. I thought cable boxes and satalite recievers stored viewing data?

[RockaFowler]

223. No they don't

There is a new company that is trying to do it, but Nielsen owns the ratings now, so that happening anytime soon is not gonna happen.

[GreenPartyVoter]

250. They didn't offer us a device. Just a booklet to log what we watched.

[progressoid]

41. I meant as viewers.

Nielsen needs to know what we are watching.

[godai]

53. Yes, you're wrong.

How could anyone know what channel you're watching, especially satellite?

[fishbulb703]

92. Yes, that is why this is silly.

[Hippo_Tron]

153. Yes you do, but a tinfoil hatter will inevitably reply that they're tracking everything...

Without us knowing. It's also why the Nielsen ratings are one of the most inaccurate survey methods on the planet.

:eyes:

[Atman]

18. I couldn't watch if I wanted to...

Charter doesn't offer it in my area.

[Cal33]

35. See if you can get to watch it on computer. I'm not sure if it can be

done. If so, please let this forum know. Thanks.

[Lucian]

21. I don't have Current TV.

It's not offered in my area.

I'd love to help if I could.

[Cal33]

36. Try if you can get it on computer. If so, please let the rest of

this forum know. Thanks

[KoKo]

65. CURRENT TV with OLBERMAN SHOW, HERE ....(WEBSITE)

http://current.com/

[Lionessa]

72. Last I looked, CurrentTV does NOT offer full show on-line after broadcast like MSNBC did.

Has that changed?

[Suich]

155. Link to watch live on your computer:

http://www.thertv.eu/?p=22

[totodeinhere]

199. Thank you. I had been looking for that. Bookmarked. n/t

[mojowork_n]

22. Time Warner carries Current on Basic Cable

so I watch all the time.

Keith, Rachel, John Stewart and Stephen C........ what else is there to watch?

Oh, yeah. I always forget that Amy Goodman and Democracy Now are on the
Cable Access channel. I have been catching that programming more often,
as well.

[KoKo]

64. I have Time Warner Basic/Tier One and cannot get Current TV...

:shrug: I watch on my ROKU or online at:

http://current.com/

[Supersedeas]

240. same here

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Let's take a moment...

From the link 'Overall viewership was up over the prior week, but ratings have not sniffed the levels of Olbermann's debut frame...' So the numbers are down from debut highs, but gaining each week in the 'regular run'. The 'drop' is in the 'key demographic' not in total viewers. The 'key' demo is not the only demo, and it is most often cited by those who are trying to make a point that is not served by the actual viewership statistics.
Note I use the term 'viewership numbers' as opposed to 'ratings' because rating matters only when in direct and actual competition which is not the state of things at Current. There are no execs there sniffing at 'ratings' and wanting to tweak the show or get different guests, they are building a news department and a TV channel. They are 'competing' only with themselves, realistically.
Another thing is that cable 'ratings' have little relationship to the Network ratings most people are familiar with. People are used to comparative ratings in a time period. Time slot vs time slot, network by network. Cable 'ratings' are all about 'the same sort of show at the same time'. When FoxNews says they are number one in cable news, that does not mean they are number one in news, nor that they are number one in cable, it does not even mean they win their time slot relative to other cable shows, just that they beat CNN and MSNBC. That's it. So their 'number one show' is beaten in 'the ratings' by reruns of sitcoms, by cartoon shows, by films, by almost everything else on cable. The 'huge' cable audience is a tiny fraction of a 'too small to survive' Network audience. The largest cable audiences of all time to not approach half the lowest numbers for any given Network show, including Network news casts. Cable tops out around 4 or 5 million when it has a 'huge event' a 'huge event' on Networks can get 45 million, over 30 million watched the last speech by the President.
Perspective helps. Add to all of that the fact that cable stations are not universally present in homes with a TV or even in homes with cable, and another layer of complexity comes in. Current is available to fewer homes than other outlets at this time. Also, Current is not yet a 'cable news' channel it has a news flagship show, but it is not yet a 24 hour news outlet, and in cable, we only compare apples to apples. To compare Current to the other 'cable news outlets' will not really be fitting for another year or two, when they have rounded out their new shows and gotten rolling.
The first night of Countdown on Current was interesting, because it was also the first time Current went 'live nightly'. It is one thing to pop in the tape and run a show, another do go live every night. It was new in many ways. It is still brand new.

[SwampG8r]

27. he is on current..... if i watch it triples his ratings!

[Cal33]

42. I don't understand this. :)

[KoKo]

176. Time Warner must catalog it's viewers and their views to get ratings...ROKU doesn't

have the ability...to do that yet...because they are too small...I would think. Only the Mega Cables can view what you view.

[mod mom]

30. We watch whenever we are home at that time.

[Me.]

39. His Show Is Broadcast 3-4 Times A Day

If I miss it at 8 (my time) I watch the 11 rerun

[KoKo]

179. Yes...and if you have ROKU BOX you can click onto each view...and selection of guests

plus Sam Seder!

[Yavin4]

32. The Problem Is That Current TV Is Not A News Network.

It's a documentary network, so people don't watch it to get their news, like they do with MSNBC.

Current needs to be transformed into a full news network before KO can succeed.

[Cal33]

40. Not yet, at any rate.

[tcaudilllg]

206. Al needs to let go of the reins

and concentrate on climate change.

[lonestarnot]

43. k & r!

[TuxedoKat]

45. Ok

I forget to watch because I'm not used to watching that channel yet but I just looked it up and came up with an easy rhyme to remember it: 103 for Current TV. I'll set it to DVR too.

[Enthusiast]

46. I DVR Keith every night.

But I usually end up watching live anyway.

[godai]

52. Overall numbers are UP! n/t

[COLGATE4]

54. I'm with you 100%. Never fail to watch Keith. Am a little bummed

however because he's started back up with unexpectedly being off several days at a time. Makes it irritating.

[Plucketeer]

79. Yeah....

Is Keith still having medical problems? Anybody know? David Schuster's been filling in. David's OK, but he ain't Keith. We record his show and watch it over dinner every evening. We'll do whatever we can to keep him current!

[Bette Noir]

194. Keith's in LA this week, making more TV.

He'll be on Real Time with Bill Maher tomorrow, and The Late, Late Show with Craig Ferguson on Monday. Makes me sorry I moved away from LA.

[Jankyn]

56. I don't get CURRENT TV on my cable package...

...and I can't afford a more expensive one, but I do watch online. It's the best I can do.

[Cal33]

62. Oh, Wow! There are several DUers in this thread who can't get it on

TV either. Would you exlain how to get Olbermann online?
It would be great if you wrote it in this thread, and also
wrote a separate post, which would reach more readers in
general. Many thanks.

[KoKo]

178. Here's the Online Link to Olbermann on "Current TV:"

http://current.com/shows/countdown/

[lsewpershad]

57. Agreed

I watch Keith on Current every night M-F.

[orwell]

58. They need to fix the sound...

...Keith has a great voice but whatever they are doing to the audio on that show makes it very difficult to watch.

The audio on the show is tinny and thin.

[Kolesar]

71. The audio is low amplitude on my Time Warner feed ... eom

[RebelOne]

101. You are right. I thought it was because of my cable.

I have to pump my sound up to the highest when watching Keith.

[LittleGirl]

59. watch it daily

recorded on DVR and then watched sometimes during the hour or afterward. Depends on chores around the house and that kind of stuff. I 'get' him.

[garybeck]

61. tell Comcast to include CurrentTV with their basic standard package...

then I could watch

[Cal33]

63. There's good news for you. Jankyn (msg. #56 in this thread, 5 lines above yours)

doesn't get Olbermann on TV either, but she gets him online.
I've just asked Jankyn to show us how to do it, both in this
thread, and post a separate thread, so that more people will
read about it.

[tblue37]

68. How does that help unless the person's TV is one of those

that is being monitored by the ratings company? ALl the TVs in the world won't count if they are not atatched to one of those little ratings boxes given to households selected to be included in the ratings.

[Cal33]

74. I must say that I never knew how the ratings were made.

[RebelOne]

69. Not everyone here likes Comcast, but I do receive Current TV.

And I watch Keith every night faithfully. Except for like last night when he was not on. And then (oh, heaven forbid), I will watch Nancy Grace.

[oldhippydude]

108. i too get keith on comcast.. help!!

on comcast its channel 107... however when i have tried to access current the last 2 evenings i get a screen that says i am not authorized along with directions.. directions that don't answer the authorization statement.. so I'm effectively without Obermann..help

[blackspade]

70. I have Current on all the time.

I watch Keith and have been really enjoying Vanguard and the top 50 documentaries.
I think it is a little early to write him off based on a corporate company model which I don't believe is the way Current is set up.

This is just another way that the M$M and their corporate masters are trying to undercut and marginalize progressive voices in the media.

[brooklynite]

73. Unrec'd

help out by simply switching on to Current TV, even it's only for a few minutes, Mo. - Fr.
between 8 & 9 p.m., before returning to your favorite program

The OP doesn't ask people to watch Olbermann; it asks to lie about watching him to hopefully encourage other people to. Either the program can attract an audience on its merits, or it can't.

[Cal33]

76. I see nothing wrong with a liberal wanting to help a budding liberal TV station

to grow. It's nothing like the right-wingers doing all their dirty tricks
to prevent certain groups of Democrats from voting at all.

[OwnedByFerrets]

164. Utter Fail

[SnowCritter]

75. I'd love to help

but Current TV isn't available where I live.

[Cal33]

78. If you're interested in watching Keith, you can do it online. Just go

to msg. 65 on this thread, where Koko gave the link to Current TV.

[GoCubsGo]

86. That link is only good for Al Gore's environment marathon.

Meanwhile, go here if you want a live stream, rather than excerpts:

http://www.justin.tv/streammedia

Or, here:

http://www.thertv.eu/?p=22

Or, search "Current TV live".

[KoKo]

180. This link to Current Online does Work...but thanks for the ROKU Links, too...

http://current.com/shows/countdown/

[Chimichurri]

77. My cable doesn't carry it. I'm so bummed about that!

[Cal33]

80. You can watch Keith online. Koko gave the link on msg. 65 of this thread.

[Cal33]

81. You can watch Keith online. Koko gave the link on msg. 65 of this thread.

[Vinca]

82. I never miss it . . . except the past couple of days because the dish has been on the fritz.

The repairman is here at this very moment so I'll be watching tonight.

[slackmaster]

83. How about taking care of yourself by turning the damned babble box off and going outside?

It's nice outside!

[glowing]

84. It comes on a few different times.. and you can watch it from the computer.

It would help if Current had a few more news shows in its nightly line-up, but they will come along. I don't think KO or Al Gore will give up so soon into airing. He's only been on over there since June.

[ThomWV]

85. We have watched it every night since he came back on, wouldn't miss it for anything.

[haikugal]

88. I always watch Keith at 8pm

I even watch Current TV....sorry to hear his ratings are going down but it will take time and programming. He has great guests..

[mitchtv]

89. I never miss it if possible

he(KO) misses it more than I

[notadmblnd]

90. it's a premium channel for me, so I don't get Current

[samsingh]

91. let's watch and support Keith

[gtar100]

94. I have no TV. Internet only so I watch the clips. What can I do to help his ratings?

I'm sure there are many others like me.

[KoKo]

181. Here's the link to watch on your Computer:

http://current.com/shows/countdown/

[gtar100]

255. Thank you!!

:hi:


very much!!

[bongo_x]

96. like the channel…but

I like and watch Current, but I’m not that crazy about Mr. Olbermann. I didn’t watch him much on MSNBC.

[JI7]

97. it's Current TV, maybe Keith should have tried to get on CNN

i don't think it's that big a problem. it's a small channel compared to MSNBC. you can't expect him to do that well.

the thing with MSNBC is that people are going to be watching it throughout the day for news and there are promos for their later shows so people stay tuned in.

it will take time but they can slowly add new programming so more people watch earlier in the day also and can see promos for the show and tune back in later.

[YvonneCa]

121. But it's not just Keith on...

...Countdown. Current is Al Gore... Dems could benefit. ;)

[abelenkpe]

102. Anyone know what channel that is in LA?

On time warner?

[YvonneCa]

123. Channel 142 on...

... TWC. :hi:

[abelenkpe]

229. Thank you! nt

[valerief]

103. I do watch him. Live. nt

[Atypical Liberal]

104. No TV here...

We canceled cable over a year ago. We are an internet-only house now.

[kctim]

105. Sorry, I watch news, not opinion

[DisgustipatedinCA]

109. It's curious that you're in GD if you don't listen to opinion

I mean, I could understand if you limited yourself to LBN, but this is GD, which has been known to host an opinion or two over the years.

[kctim]

227. Big difference

Individuals here voice their opinions for people to agree or disagree.
Propaganda states opinion as fact to tell people what to think in order to garner support.

[YvonneCa]

124. Or...

...as they say on Current... "The opinion that drives the TRUTH." ;)

[RyanPsych]

107. I think more people would watch him if he wasn't so full of himself

IMHO

[YvonneCa]

126. Welcome...

...newbie.

[RoccoRyg]

110. Yeah

Some liberal media.

[julian09]

114. Watch him faithfully at 8pm except for Fridays, I'll switch for 11pm

so I can watch McDonnell at 8pm because Msnbc goes to Lock Up after Rachel no repeats.
Keith is on 8,11,2,7,3 on DTV CHANNEL 358.
What he needs is more people who are known; like Elliot Spitzer, who is no longer on CNN. Maybe Cenk "TYT" could do it to his liking. MSNBC is locking all the talent as contributers since Keith started; they even brought back some analysts that were not on msnbc for years. They are worried about Keith, they are even giving Chris Hayes his own weekend show on msnbc. Keith is pretty much alone, he has to sacrifice his time off for a while.:toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce:

[peace frog]

115. Glad to be Rec #115

We watch KO every week night at our house, and again on weekends to repeat a particularly good show.

Keep up the great work and keep it comin', Team Countdown!

[BumRushDaShow]

118. K&R I turn him on everyday at 8pm

:kick:

[mwooldri]

120. I watch Keith's show when I can.

Though Current needs to go HD = and fast. We have a nice local independent station here who has switched to HD and their operating budget afaik isn't anywhere near the size of KO's reported 2009 MSNBC salary ($7.5 million) - so if they can do it then so can Current.

[awoke_in_2003]

125. It gets DVR'ed every night...

because I work second shift. I think DirecTV tracks that.

[crazyjoe]

130. I don't understand at all why Keith went to that crap channel.

His ratings were unbelievable at MSNBC, he saved that network, and he OWNED his time slot, on an average day beating all the other news shows. With his numbers and popularity, he must of had his choice of any one of the major news channels. besides fox of course, I'm sure he would rather starve than pass Bill O in the halls.
This only hurts him for the future. Nobody is going to want to pay him millions of dollars with ratings worse than an infomercial that's on at 3 in the morning.
I have 3 tv's in my house, they will ALL be tuned into Keith, every night. Come on people, we can do this !!!! For Keith !!!

[Cal33]

215. I think Keith is a rather independent type of person. At MSNBC the bosses

tell the anchormen what not to do...etc...eventually Keith gets fed up and
ends up leaving. At Current TV Al Gore gives Keith full authority to do as
he pleases, he is his own boss. It's up to Keith to build up the little
TV channel, if he can. And most of us here would like to help them succeed.

This is the first TV station owned by Democrats that I know of. The
Republicans own all the rest. So let's help Current TV grow into a major
station. Keith's first day at work was June 20, 2011 -- not quite 3 months ago.
We need Current TV to become a great success. It would be a great boost to
all of us progressives and liberals.

[Raine]

132. I have cable but I don't have Current TV. nt

[Pab Sungenis]

133. Call your cable company.

Demand Current.

[Smilo]

136. Bawstards changed the channel

.... Dish Network had Current on 192 now it is 294 and follows all the crappy shopping channels - wonder why they did that, or who told them do it.

Keep going Keith - you are great. Your stand-ins are not as good as you, but I will still watch :hi:

[WillyT]

137. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

:kick:

[davidwparker]

138. I watch the 8pm and repeat at 11pm M-F. n/t

[YBR31]

139. Watching Keith won't help his ratings if you don't have a Nielsen box

Ratings are determined by Nielsen. If you are not a Nielsen household, where everything you watch is tracked, watching Countdown won't have any impact on the ratings.

[fishwax]

165. or a diary

welcome to DU, YBR31 :hi:

[KoKo]

182. Only Networks use Neilson..the rest are catalogued from "watching you" via your

Cable Company... And..yes...they can do what they want to with the numbers... :scared:

[paulkienitz]

140. a lot of us don't get Current TV

for that matter, Cumcast no longer feeds me MSNBC like they did a year ago...

[efhmc]

142. Don't think I can get it on tv. On line?

[TheKentuckian]

144. I wish I could. All I seem to have is segments off the Roku, which I don't think rates.

Just selfishly, I'd like to be able to watch full episodes from somewhere. I ask the cable company for Current.
I guess I should be pitching people on asking for it too. They tend to react slowly but if people that have access can keep the home fires going we can expand access and help it work.

[KoKo]

183. Google Private Channels/Roku Box. Or, Google Keith Olbermann on ROKU

I get all of his shows and I can watch different ones in full...from Private Channels folks have developed as "Aps" added on to my ROKU.

[TheKentuckian]

231. Cool, I'll check it out. I'm new to the box. Thanks!

[Major Hogwash]

146. I don't think Keith cares about ratings anymore.

Has he said anything about another program to follow his yet?

[obliviously]

147. Who?

[Joey Liberal]

148. I will support Keith! nt

[Firebrand Gary]

149. Watching climate crisis now, Countdown is up next.

[bleever]

151. Links to live online streaming are in post 78 above,

in case anyone missed it.

Works for me.

[SoapBox]

152. I watch every night! And I LOVE Friday's with Thurber!

Go Keith Go!

[rsusan999]

160. None of the links here currently work

I do thank all of you who have provided links trying to help those of us without cable, like me, or those whose cable company doesn't carry Current TV. Sadly none of the links provided work today. They might have worked yesterday or a couple of days ago. It seems as soon as there is a link to live stream Current TV it is taken down by I guess TPTB at Current TV.

I know they want people to watch on TV but many of us can't. Personally I cannot afford cable I had to give it up almost 2 years ago.

I found links for Keith's show here about a week ago and they worked for a few days and then they too were gone.

Oh well.

[KoKo]

186. I just tested the links and they all work for me. I use Firefox/Windows Millenium and my

Computer is five years old. No problem getting any of them to work. :shrug:

[Skip Intro]

161. That 8/11 article is a bit misleading anyway - compares a big debut week against a Labor Day week.

Who does that if they are seeking to be fair? Far more context (weekly ratings for a series of continuous weeks) would be needed to paint a fair picture. Even with that the article says overall viewership was up over the prior week.

Besides, Keith has said that his eye is on the long term.

[soleft]

163. I'd be watching right now if it wasn't for Comcast

[KoKo]

171. Here's a link from "Daily KOS" about how to watch Olbermann on CURRENT TV...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/21/987446/-How-to-watch-Current-TV-on-ROKU

[itsallhappening]

172. He's an insufferable blowhard.

Just like the rest of the TV political commentators, in my opinion.

I haven't watched that nonsense on any channel in over a year. It's great.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

191. Thank you for your call!!!

*click*

[lupinella]

173. K&R

I record both Rachel Maddow & him every night & watch the next a.m.!

[EmeraldCityGrl]

174. Seattle Area- Channel 125-8pm. n/t

[BigDemVoter]

184. Thanks for your post.

I'll be sure to be more religious about watching him. I love KO, so it won't be a problem. I just tend to get distracted after work, and he's always a good way to unwind! Thanks again.

[Auntie Bush]

188. I tape it every night. Hope that counts as a view. nt

I don't think he's any less popular. Many just watch MSNBC all evening and forget to change the channel. bur this is bad news because he's fighting for us...plus it's Gore's channel and I want them both to succeed.

[Taverner]

190. If I had it, I would watch it

Cable is expensive

Even more so if you ain't workin'

[tblue]

193. I never miss it! And I stopped watching msnbc.

No more corporate news for me.

[MrMickeysMom]

195. Is it a fair comparison?

I can think of no better station, and one of the FEW ones we watch in our household.

Reasons: Countdown, All Gore's 24 hours on Global Climate information that is playing (fucking excellent), Vanguard, 50 Documentaries to See Before You Die.

There is no better democratically and progressively focused station on cable.

BUT is this a fair comparison to have said what you did? Sorry, I didn't read reuters, and my answer may be there.

[MrMickeysMom]

196. Okay, I just read the article...Who the fuck watches Anderson Cooper?

and more importantly, why? So, he's better than the other trash on CNN, no comparison.

But, Jesus....

[alp227]

197. i only watch the show on youtube and current.com

so i can't count in the ratings but can STILL support KO

[mckara]

198. I Watch Every Night!!!

[defendandprotect]

200. I tune in regularly -- and then usually tune out .... too much film on RW'ers ....

drives me away in a hurry --

Truth is, very little of TV makes sense as far as news --

I also try to watch Amy Goodman --- think all of these shows repeat, as well?

But, Keith's being gone from MSNBC also keeps me from tuning into Rachel and Schultz!

[sheldon]

201. I would have to actually have a TV. NO CHANCE!

KILL your TELEVISION.

[Lugnut]

202. Current TV is not on my cable service.

I've done everything but stand on my head to get them to add it. No dice. There is only one cable provider in my area.

[GreenTea]

203. My right-wing CEO/cable company(suddenlink) refuses to carry Current TV-Though many have demanded it

[marlakay]

204. I watch when i am home

Daughter doesnt get current...god i hope he can stay on...i worried about how lazy people are to watch common channels and not search for keith 's show...

[JohnnyRingo]

205. Every night, but I'm just one statistical viewing unit

Sounds so cheap when I say it it like that, but is that what I've become?

[ObaMania]

207. I'd love to but Comcrap in my area doesn't offer it for lower tier subscribers.

n/t

[vets74]

214. Why on this Earth are you giving COMCAST money ??? $100-a-month to the pharoah....

That's one of those heart-of-the-beast corporatist monster organizations. Far Right. Beyond the norms for incorporated Republican.

$100 a month for what ? There's alternatives :::

1. For some $40 there's the WiFire wi-fi super-antenna. The range is supposed to be 1,000-feet. If you're in a city you can usually find a free wi-fi hook up for internet.

2. Do you really need cable tv so bad ??? You just have to give the bastards $100 a month to watch cable ?

On the air broadcast teevee ought to be enough for human survival. Breaking the Comcast habit is easier than nicotine or heroin.

$40 once, plus kicking back to broadcast -- how's that to stiff the Comcast system ?

And if you leave the download running, you can watch something compelling like "The Closer" on download.

Not rocket science. Same as giving Democrats $100 a month......

[scubadude]

209. Hi is simply not available here.

I have noted my displeasure with the company. Probably a no go here.

[BEZERKO]

212. KO joining Current's lineup

was a major coup for Current. I will tune in, thanks for the update! Let's all do our best to watch.

[stlsaxman]

217. refuse to have cable or satellite here- so can someone help me support "Countdown" by...

tuning in twice? Please!!!

[pam4water]

218. Can afford Satellite TV :( Sowwy Keith

[rucognizant]

220. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TV!

FIgures doesn't it? the ones who watch him most enthusiastically, & NEED HIS MESSAGE MOST, a can't AFFORD TO PAY FOR TV.
I CAN GET CSPAN, & THE MAJOR NEWS programs live streaming, or video, on my computer...NOT Current. Maybe they DO have live streaming but at 8pm I am still busy, it's too early to sit down a& watch a program!

[Cal33]

228. They replay Keith's program at 11 p.m., plus 3 more times the following day.

[Matariki]

233. They need to have podcasts and past shows online

[juajen]

236. I love Keith, but I cannot get him down here, and trying to

remember to watch online is taxing. I know, I know, I should make the effort, but there is a lot of TV I watch during primetime.

[Cal33]

237. A good part about "Countdown" is that it is repeated at 11 pm and 3 more times the next day.

[Quantess]

246. k

[sfpcjock]

251. nothing more to do here. I DVR and Watch it--even when David Shuster is hosting

[Cal33]

256. Great! And many thanks.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

253. I had a Nielsen Radio log in high school.

Had no idea why I was selected. Had a book to write down when I listened to the radio.

I probably totally skewed it. I listened to the NPR Classical station 90% of the time.

So I was not the average 16 year old. :D

Still love classical music.

[sabrina 1]

254. K&R

[Zax2me]

257. I thought he was doing well.

My guess - a year from now he's already out.
Looking for a new venue.
His personality won't allow for numbers slipping as time goes on.
And they will.

Which I think is a good thing.

We need him on a higher profile network.

He will get there.

I'm patient.

[Cal33]

259. I think he will stay and see it through. It's possibly more important for him

to be his own boss than anything else. Which other place will offer him such a deal?
I think he is a fighter.