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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:46 PM Original message |
On Christian End of Days Eschatology and why Sarah matters |
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OneGrassRoot
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Explains why Pat Buchanan is such a fan.... |
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olegramps
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
145. They are zealots that will not be deter in mission. |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-15-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #145 |
166. Oh, I agree. |
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Harry Monroe
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Sat Jan-15-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #145 |
173. The Blues Brothers were on a "Mission from God"! |
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Goblinmonger
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. ....... |
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Mike 03
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. I take what you write very seriously. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. The dog wishles will activate another shooter |
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Mike 03
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Whoa, you are blowing my mind. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. This is beyond copy cats |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. Mike here is a good post on it |
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StarsInHerHair
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
155. I heard that right away.....especially "our children will not have peace until" |
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OneGrassRoot
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I want to jump in here, Mike 03 :) |
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Mike 03
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Thank you. I understand what you are saying, and it makes sense. |
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bengalherder
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
153. Mike 03 |
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justiceischeap
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. "While I don't take Palin seriously as a national figure..." |
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OneGrassRoot
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. I agree... |
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Politicub
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
68. Good question - why does she resonate with so many people? |
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Shallah Kali
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:27 AM Response to Reply #68 |
135. Please read The Authoritarians by Dr. Bob Altemeyer if you haven't already |
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Politicub
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #135 |
158. Excellent links |
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jwirr
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. And her followers believe she has a chance at election because |
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glinda
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
104. They push it for sure. They push for Climate Change, dead animals, fights, etc.... |
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Marnie
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
78. Becasue she is a fanatic. She believes she is chosen by |
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Old Time Pagan
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #78 |
157. She's an opportunistic bottom feeder |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-15-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #157 |
167. Interesting take...nt |
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FiveGoodMen
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
88. The worry is not about her but about what her followers will do. |
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Harry Monroe
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Sat Jan-15-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
174. We ignore her at our peril |
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XemaSab
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
4. There are actually two different schools of thought |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I just went for the real bare bones of cliffs notes |
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XemaSab
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Word |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I know, and the funny thing is that people like Buchanan |
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XemaSab
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Here's an article about her church and what they teach |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-15-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
168. Plus one. Some of the comments |
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hootinholler
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
127. The third camp is far more scary than either of yours... |
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Ian David
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. America's Roadmap to The Apocalypse |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You should repost that as an OP |
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OneGrassRoot
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. +1. :) n/t |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-15-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
169. Plus one. |
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fascisthunter
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is the Thing DU, she knows her many of her followers are crazy |
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mod mom
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. Is she tied into C Street/Family as well or is this a separate crazy? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The Family does have elements of this |
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cbdo2007
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Thu Jan-13-11 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. Ok, ok I get what you're saying. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Oh she believes in end of days |
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Politicub
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. She may not believe that about herself, but she may as well |
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BobbyBoring
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
82. Don't believe that |
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bengalherder
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
154. Watch one of the videos |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-15-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
170. She's a believer, a true believer. |
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Fire Walk With Me
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
23. Christ appears to have discussed things such as love, forgiveness, compassion... |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. All those things are reserved for the People of Israel in |
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Fire Walk With Me
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Perhaps one day we will reach the point where belonging to a REALLY exclusive club |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. If tribalism is in the DNA no, not really |
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kctim
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
25. So how many of "these people" are there? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I'd say a million at most |
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kctim
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. And you believe |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Here |
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Rage for Order
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Thu Jan-13-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
94. I don't believe in it but I read LaHaye's book series |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. But I am sure you can surely see |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-15-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #94 |
171. I think it is much higher than .01%. nt |
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Autumn
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. The next thing they will drag out is Revelations 13:3 |
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Pathwalker
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Bill Clinton WAS the anti-Christ, then Al Gore, now President Obama. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Yeah but sooner or later, in the eschatology, |
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Pathwalker
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. I grew up with these people, was forced to learn this shit. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Funny thing as a young medic |
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Pathwalker
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Oh, I take them very seriously. They are extremely dangerous. |
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Autumn
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. That's always the way it works. |
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Dappleganger
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
70. I remember my father spewing about Jimmy Carter being the anti-christ. |
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Pathwalker
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I totally freaked out my fundy cousin by saying George Bush was |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Yep, after all she opened her eyes |
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Sat Jan-15-11 03:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
161. Pelosi is the One? |
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fascisthunter
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
27. People Don't Take the Right Wing serious Enough |
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Mike 03
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
29. So, and this is important, it has nothing to do with Palin, but everything to do |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yep. she is the current Billy Graham |
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. If these are the end of days, what do they win for being in charge when Jesus drops in? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Eternal salvation |
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
73. And perhaps a position in the power structure. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. That is classic dispensantionism and Calvinism |
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Thu Jan-13-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #75 |
95. Max Weber really described that Calvinist/Capitalist mindset well. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Oh absolutely |
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
44. I have studied this for years ever since theology |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. What is going on in the military currently |
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
142. I've always felt this is true, it's the MIHOP of end times |
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
46. I heard her say "pundants", not pundits. Just saying. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Don't worry her followers got it |
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
48. I grew up around this stuff in both Pentecostal and A of G churches. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. 2033 |
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I haven't kept up with them in a while. What does 2033 mean to them now? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. The death and resurrection |
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. there's an end of the world prophesy for every year. Some have two. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Oh absolutely but that will be the next biggie |
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BobbyBoring
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:52 PM Original message |
Better catch up! |
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Zoeisright
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
49. Shouldn't that be "pundints" (sic)? |
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. That's something that hangs from your neck, I think. |
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Thu Jan-13-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. Yep I think you got this right |
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
51. Many of them truly believe that Obama is either the antichrist... |
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BobbyBoring
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
87. They also believe |
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
106. And radio-carbon dating is just a trick Satan uses to deceive us. In other words, |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. Sad, I did not grow up around them |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:16 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Don't want to hijack your thread but I have always found what David |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. What section do you think I chose? |
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Ezlivin
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
52. 144,000 Jews will be converted |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. A few talk of 50K |
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Ezlivin
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. First time I've heard of 50K |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. The closest I can find for that morbidity is this |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #55 |
118. Ah, but they don't just 'die'. They die deaths of horrible suffering and |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #118 |
125. Trying to keep this very basic |
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #125 |
143. Maybe you should, in a way that can be digested easily and spread rapidly |
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Thu Jan-13-11 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
61. These people scare the shit out of me. |
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Politicub
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
66. The church I was taken to through my childhood in the 80's taught this kind of thing |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. It is earlier than your childhood |
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Politicub
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Thu Jan-13-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Fox pours gasoline on the fire |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #67 |
120. I actually think this End Times stuff probably originated from the |
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Yeah who was that EPA guy who said global warming |
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FiveGoodMen
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Sounds like James Watt (Reagan admin) |
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Mariana
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
110. James Watt, Secretary of the Interior |
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
74. The Age of the American Cretin..... welcome folks. |
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Marnie
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
76. Abour that last sentence. I think you are exactly right. |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Chum in the water, that is indeed one way to put it |
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Politicub
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Or course she didn't plan the shooting in AZ |
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
98. I suspect more than a few higher ups in DHS are also Dominionists |
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KamaAina
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
80. "These people NEED to encourage all Jews to go back to the Ancient land of Israel," |
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Shallah Kali
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Fri Jan-14-11 03:55 AM Response to Reply #80 |
136. What Sarah Palin's "Jewish people will be flocking to Israel" prediction really means |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
83. what you said here is the absolute truth about these Fundie Repubs and what they intend |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. seldf delete |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. And it is just the cliff's notes |
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ElsewheresDaughter
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Thu Jan-13-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
85. Oh Rapture hurry hurry and suck these crazy fuckers off the planet |
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FiveGoodMen
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. If only it was that easy! |
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anAustralianobserver
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
91. Do they think Huckabee is anointed as well? DeMint? |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Romeny follows a false religion, so no |
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anAustralianobserver
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Thu Jan-13-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
93. I don't think the Republicans let end-timers (except fake ones) get to top leadership |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. And... you'd be wrong |
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Mariana
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #93 |
113. You'd think it would negatively affect security clearances. |
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Kip Humphrey
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Thu Jan-13-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
100. Its Sargent Sarah, Eli's Army, the Family - all exist to force Armageddon in their lifetime |
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Thu Jan-13-11 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
101. If her followers think... |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. No, a prophet, an anointed prophet by god |
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The Blue Flower
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Thu Jan-13-11 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
103. Overt anti-semitism waiting in the wings |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Catch O'Donnel on the repeat |
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Oilwellian
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
107. I did a video on Sarah Palin: Stealth Dominionist |
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nadinbrzezinski
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Very well done |
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The Night Owl
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #107 |
146. Nice! Please, check out my videos... |
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Enthusiast
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Sat Jan-15-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #107 |
175. Excellent. |
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Kurovski
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
108. Kick. (nt) |
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
109. K&R |
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Thu Jan-13-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
111. Anyone who believes in the Biblical "end of days" is an idiot. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. So you are willing to discout people who are |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. If they are willing to kill... |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:33 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I highly suggest you read on the subject |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. You might have been tempted then to not take Hitler seriously, as |
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Fri Jan-14-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #119 |
152. "How can I take anyone seriously if they're all about contradictions?" |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #114 |
126. I know it's a real phenomenon just by watching Benny Hinn and all those shows |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #126 |
129. The end of times |
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:43 AM Response to Reply #111 |
133. She's talking about people who believe that shit. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #111 |
144. I'm thankful for the education, I had no idea of the extreme thoughts and beliefs they have |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
123. I happen to be a Christian |
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Fri Jan-14-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. And in the world view of these guys |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
128. Step back from the computer and get hold of yourself, for crying out loud. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. I should sugest you watch The Serpent and the Egg |
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Fri Jan-14-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #130 |
141. You reference a Bergman film and tout it as fact? |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. SHE IS... go research her church in Wasilla |
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
131. At 1st glance I thought the title said "scatology". Which this kind of is, actually. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Agreed... |
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Fri Jan-14-11 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
134. If you have to take up arms to defend yourself against other |
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Fri Jan-14-11 05:28 AM Response to Original message |
137. If so, then there is no need for her to run in 2012 |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #137 |
148. Some in the movement set dates every so often |
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
138. I think we may be giving them too much credit. |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #138 |
151. Look up Stochastic Terrorism |
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Fri Jan-14-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
139. I remember when I was a kid hearing about "The Late Great Planet Earth" |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #139 |
150. I should go check the usual sites |
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Fri Jan-14-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
140. The church Sarah Palin attended for decades believes that... |
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Fri Jan-14-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #140 |
149. It shoudl be asked but most of the media stays |
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Fri Jan-14-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #140 |
156. do some research into |
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Sat Jan-15-11 02:32 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. Don't forget the New Apostolic Reformation |
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Sat Jan-15-11 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
160. What the Republican end-timers do not realize... |
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Sat Jan-15-11 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
162. Waiting for Armageddon - doc trailer |
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Sat Jan-15-11 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
163. Why do people get themselves worked up over mythological stories |
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Sat Jan-15-11 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
164. Dog whistles and code words are all around us! |
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Sat Jan-15-11 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
165. K&R You are so right. |
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Sat Jan-15-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
172. If these people want to rapture, I'll lend them the car, length of hose and the enclosed garage |
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