I am not rich, yet I am a JOB CREATOR!!!!

[HockeyMom]

I never realized this. Imagine that? Let me explain. I own a home in a gated community which has a Home Owners Association. We have a community clubhouse and restaurant. We have a private golf course. In order to run all these facilities, a lot of people have to be EMPLOYED. Jobs have been created for cooks, waiters, cleaning help, receptionists, accountants, golf course personnel, landscapers, etc, etc. This community employs at lot of people. Has a rich person, making profits, created all these jobs? Absolutely not. Several hundred homeowners through their association dues are creating these jobs and paying these workers salaries. The HOA does not make profits from this "business". This community is a non-profit entity, and very, very few of us homeowners are RICH.

Yep, only RICH people (or bad government) create jobs.

[phantom power]

1. When people can afford fewer goods and services, there will be fewer jobs.

The world economy will continue to suck until our fearless leaders stop ignoring this demand side of the equation.

[Coyote_Bandit]

2. So am I

The desk that resides in a corner of a spare bedroom represents job creation. Never mind that it doesn't generate enough $$$ to pay basic living expenses. I use it to generate whatever funds I can while I look for a real job paying a living wage. Based on my income I am officially poor - and I too am a job creator.

[sinkingfeeling]

3. People having money to spend create jobs. I have been restoring my 153 yr.-old house for almost

16 years. In June, I had a team of 10 guys come from Little Rock and spend 8 days (7AM-7PM) taking off my siding and putting up OSB, foam insulation, house wrap, and new James Hardie siding. They stayed at the local motel and ate at the local restaurants, bringing more money and jobs into the community. So, I guess I'm a non-rich, non-corporate job creator as well.

[cali]

4. ugh. gated communities. and what you're creating are most likely low

paying service jobs. and please don't tell me that the people in your community with its private club house and golf course aren't rich. Creating jobs my ass. What self-serving privileged shit.

[Nye Bevan]

12. Do you object to apartment buildings having doormen?

Because they are gated communities, too.

[cali]

14. No, and though I find the idea of a gated communtiy more repugnant that

that of a building with a doorman, I'm don't object to either. Way to miss my larger point btw.

[Nye Bevan]

25. Sorry, I interpreted "ugh, gated communities" as an objection to gated communities (nt)

[HockeyMom]

13. Ok I will give you another example

I used to work at NON PROFIT agency for the developmentally disabled. Was the founder of this agency a rich person? She was a nun who left the convent. Was she or her family rich? Nope. Ok, most of these were LOW PAYING JOBS, BUT people who did this weren't working there to make a lot of money. You cannot put a price on this. No one would have lasted one single day in this field if you didn't care more about PEOPLE than money. Do you think people should be making a lot of money, and profits, off the less fortunate? I don't.

BTW, I was not bragging. I plan to leave here very soon BECAUSE all this means nothing to me. MONEY, and material possessions cannot keep my kids close to me, or give me the 4 Seasons I so want. I will be moving in with my daughter who lives in a basement apartment. I suppose many, many would not understand that all. My choice OVER THIS.

I was bringing up the point of NON PROFITS, and how their idea of for profit businesses is the ONLY way to create jobs.

And for what it is worth, I HATE corporations and small for profit businesses.

[cali]

16. you're barking up the wrong tree. I spent most of my career working in non-profits

anyway comparing low paying jobs to serve the well off is a wee bit different than relatively low paying jobs (usually with fairly good benefits- at least in my experience) that serve the public good and underserved populations.

and I don't hate small for profit businesses.

[Coyote_Bandit]

18. Wow

Ya know I completely understand hating the big corporations. I understand hating the businesses who put the bottom line above their customers and employees.

But I know a lot of people that have or work for small businesses - and by small I mean less than 10 full and part-time employees including the owners. These people are just struggling to survive against a stacked deck and some bad odds. Nobody is getting rich. The ones I am familiar with treat their customers and employees better than larger businesses. I rather admire them for being able to make their own way against some very long odds.

[Broderick]

21. Getting kicked to the curb?

You hate small businesses too? 60 percent are single person businesses. Like home businesses. Usually extremely low profit.

[MineralMan]

29. You hate small businesses?

Really? How odd. Why would you hate small for-profit businesses?

[TwilightGardener]

31. Why would you hate small businesses? Do you never take your dog or cat

to a vet or a groomer? Do you go to a local non-chain hair salon? Have you never eaten in a local restaurant or ice cream shop? Do you not ever use a dry cleaners or a tailor? You've never used a plumber or other local tradesman? Just such a weird thing to say.

[DrunkenBoat]

33. way to miss the point.

[madmom]

5. I help create jobs too.....

when I go to the grocery store, someone has to restock the shelves, someone has to keep track of inventory, someone has to load the trucks to take said inventory to stores, etc. etc. etc. It's the circle of life....:shrug:

[cali]

6. excellent point.

[B Calm]

38. The working poor create one hell of a lot more jobs than the rich do!

[canoeist52]

7. If you own a home in a gated community...

you maybe considered rich.

[Modern_Matthew]

8. Gated community residents aren't rich?

News to me, lol.

[cali]

9. hey, it's not rich people who live in gated communites with private golf courses.

[Donnachaidh]

10. a *private* golf course in a gated community?

Oh puhleeze..... :eyes:

[cali]

11. no shit.

I'm dumbfounded by this post. Maybe it's parody.

[HockeyMom]

15. Only rich people are job creators

Non-profits do too. That nun in my previous post "employed" several hundred people. This is a RANT against profits, profits, profits.

[Donnachaidh]

19. hey -- why don't YOU do a little research and see how much those little people

employed on your PRIVATE golf course get paid? Or is that going to ruin the self-serving pat on the back?

[cali]

20. well if that's what it's supposed to be, it failed horribly.

[Johnson20]

24. Geeze you folks

talking about jumping to conclusions because someone has done well. Maybe she gives thousands to Charity etc how do we know she doesn't. There is no excuse for some of the comments here based upon what she said!

[cali]

27. oh for pity's sake. Her op is inane.

there is no excuse for the silliness of the op- or for claiming that people who live in a gated community with a private golf course aren't wealthy.

And no this isn't class envy on my part or dislike of someone with money.

[Broderick]

17. Must be nice to live where you can keep the

rest of us rift raff out. We might soil your lawn, or heaven forbid you have to interact with one of us. If a neighbor invited us over would you say that they are having "one of those people" over?

[Johnson20]

23. Why do you assume

the OP is a snob simply because she has done well? I have also and live in a similar place, but I do a lot of good things for the local people who are less well off.

[RandomKoolzip]

28. If she's not a snob, why the gates?

[TwilightGardener]

32. Fear.

[Javaman]

36. Yeah, I heard about that, it was in all the papers...

:eyes:

fear of the little people with out ID passes.

[Broderick]

41. Oh goodie, another

taker in society. How much have you stolen and taken from Americans for your "gate"? There will come a time to storm the gates and take back what folks have taken. Enjoy while you can. Enjoy. It will be "those people" you look down upon that will get back what they earned for you.

[alc]

22. deman is critical

But, I'd guess that a builder decided he wanted to be richer so he got together the plans and financing to create the community and golf course and restaurant. He made his money, then left you with a community that you like that supports itself and provides many jobs. Everybody wins and the builder is probably off creating a new community with the money he made off of yours.

It's possible for a lot of homeowners in an area to decide they want to create local jobs and so they get the funding together to build the infrastructure to support the jobs. But more often than not it involves rich investors doing it to become richer. Does DU really believe those investors don't play a roll in creating jobs?

[MineralMan]

26. We are ALL job creators, at least in the sense you describe.

Every time we spend money, we're supporting the jobs of those who work for the places that receive that money. Every consumer, even an unemployed consumer, generates jobs. It's how the general economy operates, basically.

You live in a gated community. OK. Some jobs are specific to that community. Those who do not live in a gated community support jobs in the overall community. The result is the same. You spend money and people are hired to supply the services and merchandise you spend that money on.

There is no difference.

[NNN0LHI]

30. Few of the posters in this thread are acting like vultures

Guess piling on someone has always been a progressive value? <head shaking/>

HockeyMom, I think this is the thread you were asking the moderators to lock in another thread that was locked? Go to your original OP and push the alert button and ask them to lock it there.

Take care and see you later.

Don

[Johnson20]

43. Yeah. I'm new and really don't get it Don.

[DrunkenBoat]

34. i don't know what the other posters' problem is. they seem more interested

in criticizing where you live than responding to your point.

[Javaman]

35. I thought people who lived in those gated golf club communities...

moved there to die.

[Javaman]

37. probably one of the most bizarre postsI have read on DU in a long while

so you hate corps and small businesses, but love non-profits and golf club waiting to die communities.

Sounds like a bad personals ad.

well noted and I'm not going to use the "hide thread" for the first time.

some people make some of the most strange observations.

[mainer]

39. To be honest, just being alive makes one a job creator

because we all need to eat, we all need beds and roofs and (most of us) phones and electricity. We need cars and (therefore mechanics), clothes (and therefore seamstresses), schools for our kids (and therefore teachers and janitors). When we get sick we need nurses and doctors, lab techs and housekeepers.

In the most basic sense, what's needed to create jobs is ... warm bodies. Heck, even dead bodies create jobs.

[eShirl]

40. I suppose it depends on one's definition of rich.

[Broderick]

42. Yeah, I had a discussion here or a debate with someone

complaining that 300K a year wasn't rich. True story. 3 days ago.