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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:39 PM
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Did Alleged Arizona Shooter Jared Loughner Think He Was Dreaming During Attack?
When Jared Lee Loughner allegedly pulled the trigger outside a Tucson Safeway Saturday morning, killing six people and injuring 14 others, is it possible that he thought he was dreaming?

Friends of the suspect Jared Lee Loughner, 22, describe him as being obsessed with dreaming.

A rambling series of videos posted on Loughner's apparent YouTube channel days before the shooting includes a rambling series of observations about dreams and dreaming.

"I am a sleepwalker -- who turns off the alarm clock," Loughner wrote in one video.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=12585475
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:43 PM
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1. Guess that's why he ran from his father
and then received a ticket from the cops before slaughtering six and injuring 13 others. That's a nightmare of a dream.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:44 PM
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2. If he thought he was dreaming, he probably would have let the cab driver keep the change. n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:45 PM
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3. "alleged"?
I understand journalistic caution in most cases involving crime but there were numerous eyewitnesses to this shooting so I think they can dispense with "alleged" at this point.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:57 PM
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6. It's more than caution...it's protecting the legal process...
so a sleazeball lawyer can't claim that he cannot get a fair trial.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:46 PM
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4. Well if he had an imaginary gun I might buy that theory.
As it is, please.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:47 PM
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5. Ugh, so they're trying to blame... what? Inception now?
Saying that he was obsessed with movies like Inception... Pitiful. Just stop lying media, and accept that you guys drove an unstable man to do horrible things because you kept insisting that it was ok to "reload". Yeh, that went over SO well. Now kindly stop trying to have a scape goat - this is even weaker than the occult angle.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 04:59 PM
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7. Was he dreaming when he bought the bullets?...n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:27 PM
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8. I believe Loughner was at a point, between drugs, lucid dreaming and psychosis,
where he could no longer differentiate where dreaming ended and real life began. That young man is totally lost, GONE.

He made several disturbing posts about his mental breakdowns on the Earth: 2025 gaming board. It didn't help, I'm sure when fellow posters mocked him and suggested he become a stripper when he asked for job advice. This guy didn't know reality from dreams anymore.
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 05:35 PM
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9. I'm wondering if he has a brain tumor.
Remember the shooter at a Texas campus many, many, years ago who climbed a tower and began shooting everyone he could see? I can't remember the year or the university. A police officer had to climb the tower and kill the gunman. But the gunman had left a note saying he knew something was wrong with him, as he was so full of violent urges. He also knew he was going to die that day and he requested they look for a brain tumor at his autopsy. Sure enough.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:00 PM
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10. (That would be Charles Whitman...)
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:09 PM
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12. Thanks.
There are some parallels.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:03 PM
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11. not a rw, crazy. not crazy, dreaming. geeesh. nt
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-11 06:14 PM
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13. Yes. And John Wilkes Booth thought he was in a play. nt
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