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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:03 PM Original message |
House just passed bill to empower expansion of charter schools nationally. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. I want names |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'm looking... |
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pepito (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. more $$ellouts |
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supertony (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 05:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. i think it is easy |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Some words from Democrats about this sell-out bill. |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. It is a bill to foster private profit, not education, I am sure profits will be good |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Ah, yes, Senate language approved teachers not being certified. |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Where else could one be deemed "highly qualified" before earning a "qualified" rating? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yes, it is insanity. The whole thing is insane. It makes no sense, it hurts the students... |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. As you've frequently pointed out |
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lindysalsagal (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Union busting. Period. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
70. and most importantly, |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. . |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. What?? They are called "highly qualified" while still training, and THEN |
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supertony (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 05:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
49. what's wrong ? |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. I go BRAWNDO sckhool now. Lernz lots! |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hooray for bipartisanship!!! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. Here is a link to the yes and no votes. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
43. This is outrageous. WTF? |
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supertony (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 05:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. seems funny |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
91. My rep, Lofgren, voted yes, so did Pelosi. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
11. This morning I saw a story on ABC pushing the notion of cyber schools too. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yep, it is called Digital Promise. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. "should be receiving money from the U.S. Department of Education as well as a variety of philanthrop |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
93. Computerizing a proven defective education model is not going to improve education. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. Not all charters are terrible and they certainly all do not make a profit. Charters just like |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Whoa, that is so out of line. I can't believe you said that about me. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. This is not personal, nor is it an attack. The majority of your posts are denigrating charter |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Apparently what you said is acceptable here now. OK with me. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I didn't call you any names, or insult you???? I also made sure to clarify that I was not attacking |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 05:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Charter bashing? Kinda like some calling people "Obama bashing" if they |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. Thank you. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
68. I'm a genuine charter school basher myself. |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #68 |
92. Spot on comment. Charter schools are driven by the profit motive. |
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tgal (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
73. "Charter bashing threads" |
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tgal (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. Yes it IS a PERSONAL ATTACK |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. :/ |
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HubertHeaver (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. The Charter movement is merely the vehicle to re-segregate |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. yup! separate and unequal... |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. "Mad has an agenda" -- & so do you. Comments about "good vs evil" are irrelevant |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Good point that it does not matter if good or bad.... it's a dangerous direction. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Ah, then in the future all charters will be Walmart and McDonald's Schools. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. My daughter is a teacher at a charter school in South Florida. 'Nuff said. n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 05:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
51. No, not all charters are terrible, |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
80. If I am suppose to be ashamed of supporting the President or having an opinion contrary to yours, |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
59. "...charters are hear to stay" HEAR to stay? |
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They_Live (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. sorry to nitpick |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. Not to worry. Obama will veto it. Won't he? K&R |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
17. Guess one group behind the bill. Will Marshall's Progressive Policy Institute. |
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Scottybeamer70 (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. Thank you, madfloridian,, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. The deregulation and privatization of public education using public money. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. What about homeschooling? Anyone can decide to homeschool and they get the money that would have |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. That's how they get the fundies on board with their program. Don't worry, when public |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. we`ll have to go into the woods like they did in Fahrenheit 451 |
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historylovr (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
53. Exactly. nt |
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historylovr (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
52. I got money that would have gone to public schools? |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Homeschoolers get money to purchase curriculum and vouchersto use for additional classes like music |
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historylovr (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Maybe in her state. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. California. She received vouchers that allow her to use for pe, music et. She received funds to pay |
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historylovr (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Ah, okay. Thanks. |
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freshstart (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
62. Yes, thank you Madfloridian |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. as thomas jefferson stated |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Thank you for that. |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. Here's an interesting short post on this general subject: |
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supertony (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 05:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. oh my................. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
63. Thanks, I missed that. |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
31. Congress takes their Marching Orders from the Koch Bros.... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
33. this will pass the senate and obama will sign it. |
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Pisces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. That is extreme at best. Nothing has taken place yet, we currently have charters that have |
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tgal (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
74. No is isn't. |
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lindysalsagal (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
41. No reason to make teaching a profession or get the degrees, not when they cost |
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lindysalsagal (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
42. I am a teacher, and I tell every young person who asks NOT to become a teacher. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. I do the same, and so do other teachers I know. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
45. Privately run schools should get zero tax money or any other money. "For profit" they can |
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historylovr (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
54. Rec. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
55. Wow. That's just plain wrong. |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
56. And they wonder why many of us are |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Oh, and my rep - mo Hinchey - as usual |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
57. Thank you for doing this thread. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
61. K&R |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
67. "Quality Charter Schools?" How about "Quality PUBLIC Schools?" |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
94. But there are "charter" schools within public school districts, just to make a distinction |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
71. Remember back when if was only middle class "Republicans"... |
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spedtr90 (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
76. Did this bill get ANY public attention before the vote? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Good question. I had heard nothing about it. |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
77. It's a system just ASKING for Crooks, Criminals and Thieves to rape us of our money... |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
79. Why does it work so well in other countries |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Which other countries? |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Sweden, New Zealand & Belgium, to name a few |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
85. mad, just got this in my email tonight: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Thanks for posting that petition. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. It sure came out of the blue |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
86. No excuse for dems whatsofuckingever. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
88. Pathetic.... |
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