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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 04:39 PM
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Dominique Strauss-Kahn: sex with maid was 'moral fault'
Source: The Guardian

Dominique Strauss-Kahn insisted there was no "aggression or constraint" involved in his sex with a hotel chambermaid who accused him of attempted rape, but admitted he was guilty of a "moral fault".

In his first public explanation of events leading up to his arrest in New York in May and imprisonment on charges – later dropped – of attacking the woman, Strauss-Kahn swung from punchy to contrite.

The chambermaid, Nafissatou Diallo, a single mother from Guinea, had, he insisted, "lied about everything". "That's what the prosecutor's report says. You have to read it carefully," he told news presenter Claire Chazal, a friend of his wife, the former television star and wealthy heiress Anne Sinclair, during the prime-time 8pm news programme on TF1 on Sunday evening.

Several times during the interview, the former head of the IMF, dressed in a sombre black suit, white shirt and dark navy tie, waved what he said was the report from the New York prosecutor Cyrus Vance justifying why the charges against him were dropped. Strauss-Kahn had denied forcing Diallo, 32, to perform oral sex in his hotel suite in the seven minutes after she arrived to clean the room and he left to have lunch with his daughter, insisting that the relationship was consensual.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/18/dominique-strauss-kahn-maid-moral-failing
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 04:46 PM
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1. so he admits to having sex with her, but the whole 'rape' thing was her imagination
yeah, riiiiight.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:25 PM
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26. I know, because sex is automatically rape, right?
It's a shame that we have a court system with prosecutors at all. We could just have you decide the verdict of every court case based on opinions you form about events based on media coverage. That would obviously be better than the travesty of justice that gets carried out every day in our courts now.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:57 PM
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28. He admits to a 'moral fault.'
I still have no idea what happened. Or if it can even be defined as 'sex.'
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 04:56 PM
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2. So, he admits to being a liar. Good start.
What else that has happened in this matter is he lying about?

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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:27 PM
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6. While calling her a liar at the same time. Awesome.
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:19 PM
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3. This is so problematic
We don´t really know whats happened, except that now both of them have been exposed as liars. S-K about what happened, and Diallo apparently looking to blackmail him.

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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:25 PM
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5. +1
Correct. Both are liars.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:15 PM
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21. Yeah, but DSK was supposedly the more truthful one.
The more money you have the more likely you can buy the perception of honesty, apparently.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:23 PM
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4. As if redistributing the wealth of nations back to the corrupted elites in other nations
is NOT a "moral fault." Nothing personal, "just business."

Geesh, where does a guy and a gal go for adult fun anymore? :sarcasm:

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:02 PM
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15. Srauss-Kahn has also worked against unions -- detests them --
as I recall it, especially hotel unions?

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:13 PM
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19. He was directly responsible for Greece's austarity measures.
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watajob Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:46 PM
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7. My take has always been...
... this was a high dollar knob job that he reneged on and it then became rape. JMHO
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:02 PM
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16. Strauss-Kahn has a history of attacking women ... many more than two -- !!
Edited on Sun Sep-18-11 10:03 PM by defendandprotect
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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:47 PM
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8. Sleazeball
"There was nothing violent, no constraint, no aggression, nothing criminal about what happened; that's what's the prosecutor said, not me," he said at the beginning of the 23-minute interview, and repeated shortly afterward


I'm sure that'e not what the prosecutor said. At best, all the prosecutor could have said that there was no proof of these things, or insufficient evidence; he certainly could not have said these things did not happen, as the only ones who could know for sure are the two people who were in the room. The guy thinks no one can figure that out?


Strauss-Kahn justified spending £35,000 a month on a town house while released on bail, saying he had no choice: "It was that or returning to Rikers Island," he said, referring to the the notorious New York prison where he was held for several days after his arrest.


Ah, there were no moderately priced accommodations available. I need to get on the U.N.'s contact list. I have a place he could have stayed just outside the city, I gladly would have given it to him for half that price. No maid service, though.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:48 PM
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27. He's rich. It came out of his pocket.
Why is it an issue?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:49 PM
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9. And, Mr DSK, a legal one...
I may be a member of the Socialist International, as are you - but you fucked up, mon frere

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 06:32 PM
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10. Dominique is really a "POS" trying to use the Clinton Defense and his Rich Wife
backs him like a Female "Sugar Daddy."

It's disgusting how he got off...in some ways equivalent to OJ Simpson in his HUBRIS the MONEY $$$ he paid his lawyers...!

:puke:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:47 PM
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22. So you were there?
How do you know who is lying and who is not lying?

Her story kept changing and made no sense. It was implausible.

And when you have a "he said; she said" situation, the most credible wins. It isn't a matter of money.

The woman may be right a very high percentage of the time, but not always.

Her story, in my view, was never very convincing, not if you tried to picture it as she described it as occurring. It was quite unbelievable to me. The police and prosecutors probably asked her questions about the details that were vague or that made no sense and she filled in with different stories and explanations. If she had really been telling the truth, her memory would have been quite detailed as to what she remembered and utterly absent as to what she did not remember. The police are quite experienced in determining whether a person is recounting a memory or an imagined experience. Eventually, they simply did not believe her. She was not credible enough to go before a jury.

When she has talked about what happened to her on TV, she has seemed quite unconvincing.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 12:25 AM
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31. Rape cases are extremely difficult over the credibility issue.
And a high profile case where lots of money is involved, it wouldn't go to trial.

If this were a poor young black man and the accused was a young white woman and she even had the iffy background, it'd go to trial.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:29 PM
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11. He is disgusting...another criminal that got away with it because of his MONEY
..in this case from his SuperStar Wife..



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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:03 PM
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17. Agree --
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:10 PM
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18. Yep.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:30 PM
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12. No shit, Dominique, being a rapist means you are in immoral MONSTER.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 09:00 PM
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13. I love you, Odin. nt
Edited on Sun Sep-18-11 09:00 PM by BlueIris
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 09:05 PM
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14. Thanks, LOL!
:hi: :)
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:14 PM
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20. the guy is old, how is he so sexed up? Viagra?
:shrug: just wondering
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 10:47 PM
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23. His age is one of the things that makes her story quite incredible.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:05 PM
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24. That can go either way.
You can say "It's incredible that she would claim an aged man such as he could overpower her."

Or you can say "It's incredible that she would be attracted to such an aged man."
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:18 PM
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25. he is 62, which isn't really that old these days, but he looks a lot older
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 12:15 AM
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30. Maybe he's a fan of "Cialis for daily use"--you know, so you can jump outta the
bathtub on the mountain at a moment's notice and git-ta bonin' like the Gorton's Fisherman!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 12:13 AM
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29. He's a sleazebag and I think he's guilty.
Where there's smoke there's usually fire, and this guy is a skeeve.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 12:58 AM
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32. Fucking scumbag rapist.
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