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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:49 AM
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Has the President changed advisers??
The speech today sounded so different and out of character for him?

Is Little Timmy not advising him anymore?

Obviously it is not something Chief of Staff Daly would advise?

I'm wondering who has his ear? He sounded almost liberal...

:-)
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:54 AM
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1. He is thinking more for himself these days.....
I think he knows the mistakes he has made. He picked the advisors he did by listenting to EXPERTS with an agenda.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:54 AM
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2. Go back and listen to his previous speeches, he has always sounded like he did today.
It's a myth that he has changed.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:56 AM
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5. Most folks would disagree with you...
I would bet.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:58 AM
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6. Doesn't matter, it's still a myth.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:59 AM
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7. I disagree.
that he has not changed.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:05 AM
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11. I guess it doesn't really matter.
I'm just happy you can finally see what he is. Many of us have seen this as reality since day one.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 12:39 PM
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16. I wouldn't. He's always talked a great fight. That's what got him elected
in the first place.

It's the follow-up that he's weak on.

I'm not holding my breath till I see the results from this speech.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:03 AM
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10. But it's not the way he's governed.
I've said before that if he governed like he ran, we'd be out of the darkness by now.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:55 AM
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3. No, he can think for himself, I'm sure.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:55 AM
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4. Yeah, considering he could have presented some sort of a tax-fairness/sanity bill
to a Democratic Congress on January 20, 2009. :patriot:
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:19 AM
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14. If you'll recall, the issue came up several times.
The consensus was always that it was impossible to pass, because the Democratic Congress wouldn't support it, or rather not ENOUGH of the Democratic Congress would support it.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:20 PM
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19. Use the bully pulpit. Get the legislation brought up and let the RW Dems vote against it, then
skewer the sobs. But me thinks Rahm Emanuel, et al wanted no part of weaning the uber-wealthy and large corporations from their fervent sucking at the public welfare teat. :patriot:
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:00 AM
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8. Maybe he looked at his falling poll numbers and decided to do something about them
I hope he has actually learned that raising the age for Medicare and cutting SS benefits is a SURE loser. He won't win re-election against over 70% of Americans who don't want the sacred trusts of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid cut so that the criminal wealthy can have their tax breaks.
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ChandlerJr Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:00 AM
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9. Maybe he got that smart 27 YO speech writer back

Jon Favreau, head speech writer for
US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:14 AM
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12. what he says means nothing
why does anyone place any importance in things that he says? what he says and what he does rarely have anything to do with each other.
right now he's worried about his base and re-election so he starts spewing what he thinks thay want to hear.

meaningless coming from him
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:17 AM
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13. +1. nt
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 11:21 AM
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15. It's campaign season
so expect more of those liberal, "pretty speeches" we heard back in 2008.

Fool me once...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 12:48 PM
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17. Since you wrote pretty much exactly what I was going to post
I will just give you a nod in agreement.

How anyone can take Obama seriously at this point is beyond me. But then again, I stayed with him for the first year of his presidency, and it should have been clear to me what he was going to do before he ever stepped foot into the office with the people he chose to surround himself with.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:25 PM
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18. Correct. Obama is in Campaign mode.
bu$h the lesser did the same thing 4 times, twice running for governor and twice running for the presidency.
He ran from the center, then went hard Right after being 'elected'.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:21 PM
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20. It's the season of making promises you won't keep.
Sounds like 2008, right?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:34 PM
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21. It's not about what he says, it's about what he does
and doesn't do ... that's where I have a problem.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:41 PM
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22. I call it "Prelude To A Cave"
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