"By the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over."

[babylonsister]

:nopity::nopity:

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/09/19/extra_bonus_quote_of_the_day.html



September 19, 2011

Extra Bonus Quote of the Day


"By the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over."

-- Rep. John Fleming (R-LA), in an interview on MSNBC, on why as a small business owner he can't afford a tax increase.

[tblue]

1. Yeah, play that violin.

That quote is billboard & bumper sticker worthy.

[moonbatmax]

81. I WISH we could get that on a billboard!

BUT, by the time I've fed MYSELF... :p

[joeybee12]

2. Clueless...knr

[Hell Hath No Fury]

3. The guy is a multimillionaire --

"Small business owner" my ass.

Fuck John Flemming -- amd all his ilk -- with a chainsaw. :puke: :mad:

[moblsv]

83. Franchises?!

He's a glorified fast food manager. If he did something useful like an Engineer, Lawyer, or even a ditch digger, he might have a bit of a basis for his arrogance.

[kestrel91316]

86. I have a lot more respect for his minimum wage burger flippers than I do for

the likes of him.

[MrScorpio]

4. I know how to live on that money for the next ten years...

That, on top of my pension and I'm a happy camper

That guy doesn't know how to handle his money.

[Initech]

29. With that I could pay my debts, buy a new car and condo, and have money left over!!

[HughBeaumont]

41. For 1/3 that, I'd have my house paid off, the Prius paid off, a new Cruze and my kid's college paid.

For ONE THIRD of the $400,000 he has left over.

For ONE THIRD of what this damned whining little bitch diaper considers a pittance, every paycheck would literally be almost gravy.

Dorothy Parker was right when she said "if you want to know what God thinks about money, just look at the people he gives it to . . ."

[WCGreen]

50. Exactamundo, Mr. Scorpio....

I think I could stretch it out for a few more years...

[joshcryer]

72. I could live on that for 600 years.

SIX HUNDRED YEARS.

[kestrel91316]

87. Got you beat. I could easily live on it for 20, though inflation might cramp my style,

and it probably couldn't include the health insurance I don't have anyway.

[reggie the dog]

97. yep 20 years just spending it

but with that kind of flow you can turn one big pot deals a year to make 20 000 to live off of and keep most of the money safely hidden away someplace

[blogslut]

5. That was something to see

Props to Chris Jansing for bringing out the clueless in that guy.

[liberal N proud]

6. Cry me a fucking river!

Does this idiot have ANY idea how fucking stupid that sounds? Any idea?

[HughBeaumont]

40. Um, sadly . . . no.

He doesn't.

And that's the saddest part of all.

[City Lights]

7. Awwww, poor thing!

It must absolutely suck to have to struggle like that!

:nopity: and a hearty go fuck yourself, John.

[dtexdem]

8. The poor baby!

Give that poor millionaire some food stamps. ;-)

[whosinpower]

9. That is not a small business nt

[YvonneCa]

42. DING DING DING ! ! !

NOT a small business...exactly!

[1776Forever]

10. OMG that says it all! They are so frickin lost in their own fantasy worlds! n/t

[yurbud]

11. these are the same people that say someone shouldn't get welfare or unemployment if they own a TV or

computer, or house.

That would be great to find some of the times when Republicans said that shit and contrast it with this guy and other rich crybabies saying they can't pay another penny in taxes.

[madamesilverspurs]

12. And he was followed on MSNBC

by a conservative commentator (somebody Cupp??) who insisted that he did not say what we heard him say.

Her approach: "He did NOT say 'By the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over.' What he DID say was 'By the time I feed my family, I have maybe $400,000 left over.'

See?


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[Marie Marie]

78. Oh well then, now I understand his plight. Asshole!

[jbnow]

115. But the bigger point is that he has no point. He was saying

that of the x million his companies makes that after rents and wages and costs there is that 600k and when he feeds his (very hungry) family that leaves only 400k to reinvest in business.

He said all this to explain how unfair the increase in taxes on millionaires were.
Does he think the taxes are on the gross income?
Business expenses are all deductions.
If all but 200k go back into the business that is the only part he pays taxes on. His would not even go up.

And if anything... people in a situation where they might have to pay some extra taxes can reinvest enough into the business to get them below that trigger amount.
Assholes.

[gordianot]

13. I saw that it should be played over and over. He gave his potential opponent a real gift.

Some people ( I use the term loosely) should just shut up but when your positions are a stupid as the Republican position on taxes. They need to avoid any mention of taxes and try and continue to wrap themselves in the flag and cross.

[Contrary1]

14. Hey Nitwit, just quit feeding your family...then you'll have more than $400,000 left over.

Problem solved.

[kestrel91316]

88. If they are eating $250k worth of food a year, they all could probably stand

a little deprivation to get their clothing sizes down a tad.

[lordsummerisle]

15. I thought it was a story from The Onion at first n/t

[Habibi]

16. Doesn't reinvestment into your business

bring your tax rate down?

[abelenkpe]

17. K&R

If democrats don't use this in ad campaigns.....

[ItNerd4life]

18. Sad that DUers are insulting small business owners.

$6 million is a small business. It is small businesses that created most of the jobs over the last 20 years.

Anybody consider asking how big his business was 10 years ago? How many people new employees he's hired in 10 years?

Reinvesting is critical to the success of small businesses.

[tinrobot]

20. He can afford to pay more taxes and still have plenty left over to invest

Taxes were higher in the 90s and small businesses created plenty of jobs.

[fishwax]

33. sad that you see this as insulting small business owners

[ehrnst]

34. It's his evasion, and misleading language that is being criticized here.

If he had come out and said - "I make $200,000 as a SALARY (not 'feeding my family' as if he has hungry kids at home - which he does NOT)from this business that I have in addition to my job with a salary in Washington, and I believe that I should not have to sacrifice any of it in taxes or risk any of it reinvesting in jobs or benefits for my low paid employees. I like my standard of living, and I want to keep it." we could say that he was being forthright.


Both of my parents own small businesses, one owns an oriental rug store, and one is a filmmaker. I am very pro-small business.

What I don't like is this guy putting himself in the same category.

[JuniperLea]

37. Thanks for the revelation...

I won't be needing to read your posts any longer.

[theaocp]

53. ...and Juniper and I agree on something.

Buh-bye.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

45. Sorry, but I work for a true small business --

Family owned, 13 employees.

[mac56]

108. Same here.

Currently, ten employees.

This clown is not a small business owner.

[Broderick]

55. 6.67 net profit percent

That ain't great in the world of business, but it ain't shabby. I do about half the 6M in business but at much lower gross profit margins, and for the year as of July; I sit at .02% net profit. I am elated because at the same time last year, I was negative 3.4%. To get there it took a lot of hurt. I paid myself less than 20K for the year on 1.5 million in sales. Last year I put in 40K by taking out loans to keep the business alive. Risk/reward/ or stupid. Not all small businesses do that well, getting 6.67 percent. Some do much better. Some large corporations like GE do much better, and pay ZERO taxes on profits.

[bengalherder]

84. He owns a bunch of Subway franchises.

Hardly small mom-and-pop there.

[Javaman]

105. Nice try. You failed. nt

[kestrel91316]

19. Oh god, I weep for him and his poor family! What on earth are they going to do???

ONLY $400k a year AFTER FOOD........

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[FarLeftFist]

21. Here is our rallying cry people. Lets not let this opportunity go to waste.

[madamesilverspurs]

22. Whaddya wanna bet

that this guy treats his employees horribly while bitching about having to pay them minimum wage?

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[w0nderer]

123. in a way, paying minimum wage is gov subsidizing business

since minimum wage won't pay rent, and food in a lot of places
the workers are now depending on section 8 (in fl) housing help
and food stamps, both of which...are gov...

oh dear he's being tax subsidized, instantly raise paychecks for all workers to avoid socialism in his business....

(does anyone think he'll stand by those principles?)


anything short of 'living wage'(30-35k/year depending on area) is actually gov subsidizing business
by trying to helping people (not saying it's wrong, just sayin 'haves' should mind what they say whilst tapdancing on landmines)

[ehrnst]

23. His family needs $200,000 to eat?

What the hell?

[formercia]

47. I bet they don't eat at Subway

not that there's anything wrong with Subway. I like their food.

I like how he brings up 'Class Warfare' in his whine.

[Divine Discontent]

114. yeah, I like the other thread that links a story where they say his family is eating all the

truffles it can get its hands on! Seriously, 200K for food is so laughable, he knew he had to make up something, and as was pointed out in the other thread, he didn't include his $174K Representative salary, which I could live off of for TEN years. What an undeserving ass.


http://www.zazzle.com/republicans_2012_keeping_millions_out_of_work_bumper_sticker-128002960205017719

[hobbit709]

24. A good slap upside the head with the clue-by-four might help him.

[nashville_brook]

58. nice!

:evilgrin:

we need a clue-by-four smilie.

[Shandris]

25. And in 333 years, I'll have had that much in excess cash after feeding...

...MY family...

...which is me...

Someone tell John Phlegming that Richard Pryor (would have) said to have a Coke and smile and shut the fuck up.

Edited for complete math failure. :silly:

[w0nderer]

76. +1 for use of my favorite pryor quote n/t

[Joe Fields]

26. Well, fuck you, rep. Fleming....

Most people don't make that much in their lifetimes...

Get a fucking clue...

[ehrnst]

27. "Feed his Family?" Uh....His kids are grown with kids of their own.

"John has been married to his wife Cindy for 33 years and they have four adult children and two grandchildren."

[harmonicon]

68. you're not considering the loss...

when you have taps in your kitchen for hot water, cold water, caviar, and champagne. You actually end up spending a lot more on food than you eat.

[Courtesy Flush]

28. nt

[Initech]

30. I know how we can solve the debt crisis:

Next millionaire who complains about not having enough pays 175% of that in taxes. Problem solved!

[nolabear]

31. Heard it on Hartmann. He estimated "feeding my family" cost $200,000 a year.

I know folks who make $200,000 a year. It's a nice living. In some areas (and let me tell you Louisiana is one of them) it's a really, really nice living. Not screaming rich but the house is nice, the kids can go to college, you can have vacations and put away for the future. He remarked that $400,000 wasn't enough to let him improve or expand his business. He could hire 100 people and give them an okay living, he could buy into another franchise, he could make property improvements for which he would get a tax cut and employ people, etc. So he's completely blowing smoke there.

But also, as Hartmann pointed out, he completely conflated his business taxes with his household taxes. If he hasn't separated the two he's a fool, and I don't believe that. He's blowing that dog whistle, hoping the fearful will only hear "They're taking food out of my family's mouth!"

[ehrnst]

32. Unless his grandkids live with him - he's an empty nester. So that's another conflated part of

his answer.

And does that include his salary and benefits as a Representative?

[David Sky]

52. NO, from the context of the interview it seems NOT to have included the $175,000 he gets nor

the virtually free medical care and lifelong pension he gets from being a Congressperson.

[nashville_brook]

57. to be fair, gold-plated Cheerios are very expensive these days

[reggie the dog]

98. 10 people at 40 000 per year, not 100 people

[hfojvt]

35. wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83GhuwtScHc

[dana_b]

36. omg - f*** off, you p.o.s.

:mad:

[moondust]

38. "At this rate I'll never be a megabillionaire!"

He's just one of us little guys; persecuted, downtrodden, robbed. :cry:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. A burden much to be hoped for by most people.

[TheKentuckian]

43. If his opponent doesn't hammer him silly with this they deserve to lose.

[TheKentuckian]

44. In fact, the entire primary slate should just blast his dumbass

[Rex]

46. Did he mean for that to sound sardonic?

What the FUCK are our Congress Critters doing, besides living high on the hog? No wonder they have a 12% approval rating! Congress needs an enema.

[toddwv]

48. What's he feeding his family?

Maybe if he cut back on the foie gras and Krystal lunches for all the kids he'd have more than that $400,000 pittance in pocket money.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

49. "Caviar Helper", to get through a rough patch. nt

[Liberal_in_LA]

51. The perfect quote for the violins. +1000

[Broderick]

54. I think his point is that after everything

he has 400,000 left over for hiring more people, expanding the business, capital purchases ect.

Unfortunately, he likely divides that by 100 and keeps it all.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

56. I don't know about you...

...but when I'm done paying bills and feeding my family, including at least one meal out a week because by God, I'm not going to work my ass off all week and have NOTHING, we are lucky to have $40 left over. Pay check to pay check, baby.
Duckie

[Auntie Bush]

59. Poor boy! I feel for him!

How the heck did he have the nerve to say such a thing? Oh I know! He's stupid!

[TwilightGardener]

60. Yep, he's barely scraping by. No wiggle room, there--paycheck to paycheck, for sure.

[Arkana]

61. Why that's barely enough to afford the fourth Jag in the garage!

Why can't you feel this man's pain? :sarcasm:

[Sancho]

62. this guy is so fucking clueless, he should be the tv ad for 2012!

what a perfect example of stupid and an ethical vacuum!

[pacalo]

63. OMG -- He doesn't get it even after she explained it to him.

He doesn't have "any money" to get richer invest, upgrade, buy more Subways!!!!

He's telling that to an audience who may have only $40 left after feeding their families.

[spooky3]

64. How many Five Dolla Foot Longs is that?

[on point]

65. Gee, how does a middle class family 4 do it on 60K you jerk?

[lib2DaBone]

66. Shop at the Dollar Store... buy some day-old bread... or better yet.. go hungry

Or CONgressman Fleming... I have some great recipies for SPAM and Saltine Crackers. You Slime Bag.

[varelse]

67. And he's serious

amazing

[NICO9000]

69. Dear God, it never ends anymore, does it?

It seems like we get repigs spewing their indefensible nonsense on a hourly basis. When I saw the story in the L.A. Times yesterday that Obama wants to tax the rich (finally!), I told my wife "You watch - tomorrow Limpballs will be crying "class warfare!" the minute his show starts." About 30 minutes later, I see the story online about douchebag Ryan crying "class warfare!" on Faux an hour or two earlier. We need to call out this horseshit NOW. If anyone tries to propagate this nonsense to me, they'll get an earful on what class is waging war on whom.

[Glimmer of Hope]

70. What a self centered asshole!

[stevedeshazer]

71. That must be some tough shit.

Only 400K.

I'm happy if I have $40 left over between paychecks.

What an asshole.

[tropicanarose]

73. Which is to say what ?You are one fortunate person. What is he thinking? Revolting idiot

[midnight]

74. The ridiculous divide between the haves and the have nots...

When we are done feeding our families... We have 40.00 dollars left.... But in all fairness my family is also buying food for other out of work families...

[gtar100]

75. Stop attacking the job creator!!

We must be the ones to coddle him, make him feel that it is safe out there to invest his money. He's suffering from such uncertainty and doubt, haven't you heard?

So leave the poor man alone. He's trying to create jobs and we keep scaring him. Geez!

[Tsiyu]

112. For real!!!

The poor widdle thing.

Everyone in this thread is just picking on the dear little job creator. Bunch of meanies!!!

They should be so grateful to Fleming for providing low-wage jobs they'd be willing to powder his delicate little tush three times a day.

And if they really wanted more jobs like they say, they'd tell him how sorry they are that he struggles so and then they'd sing him a sweet little lullaby about ending Medicare.

[Reader Rabbit]

77. This has to be satire. It's gotta be satire.

WTF?!?! The guy was serious?

Our country is officially insane.

[EC]

79. I'm also guessing he pays himself a hefty

salary as CEO of each of his companies, too. I'm just not feeling sorry for the guy...you have a business, you have expenses. Most small businesses are happy if they have even a little profit.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

80. cry me a river --- King of DeNile. John Fleming can kiss my ass.

[Deep13]

82. THAT's a SMALL business? nt

[CoffeeCat]

85. I grew up in a family that owned...

...several fast-food franchises. I worked at these restaurants from the
time I was nine years old. I remember what the overhead was and the mark-up
was, as well.

I remember my father telling me that a medium Diet Coke cost the customer about
$1, but it cost my father about 5 cents--that included the product, labor, the
cup, straw, lid and the rent on the building.

Seriously. If this man claims that he has sales revenues of $6 million from Subway franchises,
with his gross sales at $600,000--I say he's lying. He's grossing much more than that.

And if he's not, then he's putting way too much meat on those sandwiches!

[kestrel91316]

89. Here's his contact info so we can all send him frugal living tips and recipes for

budget recipes, like Macaroni & Tomatoes, Ham Hocks & Pinto Beans & Cornbread, misc Jello salads, and such like my mom served us when there was more month than money; how to shop for bargains by buying in bulk; oh, and how to wash and re-use ziploc bags.

http://fleming.house.gov/

[Contrary1]

91. ...Or just send him a can opener.

There was more than one night that I opened a can of green beans, and served it for supper along with bread and butter.

[BeHereNow]

90. Oh STOP! I'm sobbing so hard I can't catch my breath!

Oh- I forgot. John Fleming is of the party who prefers we die.
So I guess I'll just go ahead and sob until I can't breath.

BHN:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :rofl:

[SleeplessinSoCal]

92. In other words - Class warfare is over and I was on the winning side.

[DeSwiss]

93. K&R n/t

[progressoid]

94. Angry Rec.

:grr: asshole.

[Firebrand Gary]

95. "All I have is 200k annually to invest in new businesses" Greedy Bastard!

[reggie the dog]

96. a good 200 times more than I do

were it not for staying with family and cheap camping in national forests i would rarely if ever go on vaction, but i dont bitch when i have to pay taxes as i know that there are people having a hard time eating and having a roof. i do bitch that rich fuckers do not pay enough in taxes

[colorado_ufo]

99. Husband and I

could both retire. For life. On his one year.

[RedRocco]

100. it blows my mind to think

that it takes him 9 days to have as much in disposable income as I have total income for a year....

[Historic NY]

101. Arrogance or ingnorance?.....

I think he is just plain ignorant of the plight of the constituents he represents.

[mwb970]

102. Excuse me while I go eat some cake. /nt

[perdita9]

103. It's amazing, how out of touch these people are

Fleming is making Barack Obama's case better than the White House ever could.

[Butch350]

104. Come on...

The guy got Mistresses to support, mercedes payments, mortgages on his homes, some drugs and alcohol,
nice wardrobe to wear on vacation to exotic places.

Cut the guy some slack.

)=(

[Javaman]

106. Not only does this asshole say it with a straight face...

he claims it's also a hardship.

I wonder what his dad did for a living.

[cherish44]

107. so...your employees should work for free and you should be able to run your businesses at no cost?

Don't follow this guy's logic. Part of business is overhead. $400 K is a pretty nice profit after expenses. I've worked my ass off and I'll be lucky to break even with my business this year (and taxes are not the reason).

[angry citizen]

109. do the math

That works out to over &500 a day. Even Rush could not consume that much food.

[orbitalman]

110. This guy neeeds an entire...

Orchestra :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[Zambero]

111. The best sound byte I've seen in some time

Delusional, narcicistic, out-of-touch, arrogant -- there are too may descriptors to list here. This guy is attempting to portray himself as a victim of "class warfare". His "trials and travails" need to be made available to a wider audience, so that the electorate gets an accurate portrayal of how well-heeled conservatives picture themselves (to the exclusion of millions more that wish they had it so good) within the economic spectrum.

[Blue Owl]

113. Wow I have like $40

Fleming sure knows what it feels like to walk in my shoes.

:sarcasm:

[chillspike]

116. LOL...how much is his family eating???? (nt)

[hifiguy]

117. This asshole should be buried in dog

shit up to his chin. Let him eat his way out.

[sfpcjock]

118. ...I suggest that he "puts food on his family" to that guy...

A WHOLE LOAD OF FOOD!

:rofl:

Republican dipshit. :thumbsdown:

[DearAbby]

119. Spam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

[Shandris]

120. And after a few moments of thought, a couple random ones...

I've worked at a Scrubway before. Three of them, actually, owned by two different franchisers. I'm sure many of you have worked the (even relatively) modern version of fast food -- for me, it was about 20 years ago, and from what I've seen the tendency on things has only gotten worse, not better. With that in mind...

1. Subway's don't 'expand'. There IS no hiring 'new' workers, there is hiring REPLACEMENT workers, with the rare exception of massive new business openings in that area. That MAY prompt the hiring of ONE more worker for busy shifts.
2. The only time #1 is not true is when building a completely new (or establishing a new) franchise. Then there is a finite number of workers based on the amount of traffic in the area.
3. The amount of equipment is finite, and is contracted to be REPAIRED until no longer possible to be repaired. This is covered in a monthly cost, and is considered part of overhead.
4. Food Costs are part of overhead, as is building maintenance and so forth -i IE, lighting, rent, etc.
5. Since there is NO cost not covered in overhead, and NO need to hire new workers, and NO way to 'expand' your business without purchasing a whole new franchise...

...where does the 'reinvestment' part come in? That's right -- it doesn't. He said that just to make it sound like his $400,000 was 'even less' than that, oh the horror.

[workinclasszero]

121. Where shall he go? What shall he do? Oh the humanity!!!

Hey he can always join his minimum wage slaves down at the food pantry.

Motorhead: Come on baby, eat the rich,
Put the bite on the son of a bitch,
Don't mess up, don't you give me no switch…
C'mon baby and eat the rich,
C'mon baby and eat the rich…

Areosmith: Now their smokin' up the junk bonds
And then they go get stiff
And they're dancin' in the yacht club
With Muff and Uncle Biff
But there's one good thing that happens
When you toss your pearls to swine
Their attitudes may taste like shit
But go real good with wine

Eat the Rich: there's only one thing they're good for
Eat the Rich: take one bite now - come back for more
Eat the Rich: I gotta get this off my chest
Eat the Rich: take one bite now, spit out the rest





:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :patriot:

[JackRiddler]

122. Plus this is on a gross income of millions. That's a hungry family!

[WinkyDink]

124. See? I could waterboard him.