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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:43 PM
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Why do you think Dennis Kucinich is not running against Barack Obama in the primary?
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:44 PM
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1. It's raining here today
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:47 PM
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2. To make you happy.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:48 PM
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5. +1
And to give you another reason to be snide about him.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:47 PM
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3. You're joking, right?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:49 PM
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6. He said that somebody else should do it.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:35 PM
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41. I had turkey tenderloins for dinner.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:48 PM
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4. Very simple. He knows he has zero chance, and he's in for the
fight of his life to retain his seat in Congress. I can't imagine why anyone would try to run against the President. It isn't happening in 2012.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:59 PM
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11. It is not HIS seat, he is primarying a 30 year house democrat for HER seat
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:28 PM
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25. However you look at it, he's got his work cut out.
People of two minds about that race. Two districts now conflict to create one. Which Democrat is better? I will leave that to people who live in those districts/that district. It's their decision, not mine.

In any case, Kucinich doesn't have a prayer of primarying President Obama successfully, so the point is moot.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 04:07 PM
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32. Excuse me, that seat belongs to me and all the people who live in
Edited on Mon Sep-19-11 04:11 PM by WCGreen
this new district...

On Edit, I will be voting for Marcy Kaptur.

I have had the pleasure of working with Dennis here in Cuyahoga County when I was the treasurer of the county party. He taught me the value of grass root organization and he also taught me the power of image. He defended me when others were against me and I will always respect his political savvy.

But Ms. Kaptur, who I also had the pleasure of meeting in that same role, is a true populist who is also realistic and pragmatic enough to get things done. She isn't the grandstander that DK is, but she gets the job done...
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 04:11 PM
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35. I love Dennis and all, but he can't beat Nancy Kaptur who has been one of the most effective
and productive members of Congress ever! She is also the longest serving woman in Congress, period.

If I could vote for her, I would.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 07:30 PM
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42. L_S, can you give a bit of info on this please?
Dennis is primarying someone else? Where? Why?

Thanks! :hi:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:27 PM
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51. Wow, this is new to me, too! I found this (sounds like he's contemplating it):
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 12:59 AM
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60. Republicans are consolidating nearby Democratic-dominated congressional districts.
What happens is that the lines are redrawn so much so that you may end up with two or more adjacent districts being consolidated. When that happens, you get Democrats running against each other, where previously they may have faced a weak challenger in the primary, a weak Republican candidate, or ran unopposed. The Republicans have been going after Dennis for many years now, trying to get rid of him. There was a rumor of him leaving Ohio and running for Congress in Washington state. But, of course, that doesn't look likely. Instead, he'll face Marcy Kaptur, who is an amazing congresswoman, very effective, one of the most popularly-elected Democrats in Congress, and the longest serving woman in Congress.

As much as I love Dennis, Marcy will beat him with hands tied behind her back. Poor Dennis. Bad for all of us: we lose a Liberal Stalwart in Congress. Very sad.

See, this is what happens when Democrats don't vote. :(
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:23 PM
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38. Actually...the new seat belongs to no-one. It is a line on a map.
It does comprise parts of the seats that are held by Kaptur and Kucinich. The voters will decide which person they feel best represents them. To say a seat "belongs" to any one person is just foolish, aside from being completely false.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:31 PM
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53. Except, Kaptur didn't high tail it to Washington just in case the redistricting wasn't favorable.
Instead he believes the gerrymandering is "http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/09/dennis_kucinich_sees_new_distr.html">an amazing turn of events."

No words.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:26 PM
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50. Ew, I can't believe he's running against Kaptur. Both are some of the best we have in congress.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:50 PM
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7. Cuz running for President would just be more of the same ol status quo, DK has galactic ambitions.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:51 PM
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8. He is worried about his own ass, He is a man without a district
Soon enough he will be back to hurting the Democratic party
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 03:58 PM
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30. back to hurting the democratic party..
what, exactly, has kucinich done that's so harmful to the party, you know, aside from clinging to what would traditionally be democratic party principles?
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:59 PM
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9. Because
unlike some of his impractical fans, he realizes that the percentage of left-of-center voters nationwide is far less than the percentage of centrists. Fact of life. Deal.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 01:59 PM
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10. Because DK said you should run instead. nt
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:00 PM
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12. I'm sure it's nothing as uninteresting as money
And who can't raise a billion dollars nowadays?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:03 PM
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15. GOLDMAN SACHS has Geithner as their pimp.
Obama likes it that way.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:00 PM
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13. Maybe he's going to endorse Gary Hart!!
:rofl:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:01 PM
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14. He's afraid to beat him like a drum?
He's not a strong drummer.

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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:04 PM
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16. Love, love, love Dennis...but
he is TOO far left for most of America, not to mention the PsychoRight and T.HaterBaggers.

We need a Progressive...with swagger to run against PBO.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:05 PM
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17. Maybe because he's attempted it before and can't get the votes?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:10 PM
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18. Because he fears your smears.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:13 PM
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19. Because your mighty fierceness scared him off.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:14 PM
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20. Rahm. It was Rahm. He threatened to have DK whacked. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:17 PM
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21. Because they redistricted him out of a seat
He has to fight for a new district and doesn't have the time or resources to do both.

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:17 PM
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22. He knows he'll come up short?
BADABOOM!

But seriously folks...
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 04:16 PM
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36. It is not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog!
The present POTUS is quite lacking in fight for progressive economic values, cheap election stunts not withstanding.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:18 PM
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23. You want him to?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:19 PM
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24. He's not stupid...
What a horrendous waste of time, money, and energy that would be... he's smarter than that.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:41 PM
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26. Because he's running against Marcy Kaptur?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 03:00 PM
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27. The party apparatus would threaten him I suppose.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 03:06 PM
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28. he is trying to give
posters on DU a way to shit on a working member of the democratic party who is standing for re election, in opposition of the DU rules?
when all the democratic party reps are up for re election this year who will everyone who demands "unity or else" shit on then?
the tactic of attacking other dems to defend the top will have to come to an end when all those democrats in the house are standing for re election.
food for thought
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 03:15 PM
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29. because he's unelectable and he knows it......
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 03:59 PM
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31. why are you still beating your wife?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 04:09 PM
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33. Because he realizes that the Big Boys who vet all the presidential candidates
will give him neither money (or publicity unless it's to ridicule him). They only contribute to and publicize candidates who won't do any damage to their privileges.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 04:10 PM
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34. You first.
Tell us why you think he is not going to run against Obama in more then one sentence. Thanks.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 04:20 PM
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37. Because he isn't Gary Hart and hasn't demonstrated the ability to beat a rigged game.
If we want to beat a rigged game, then we need a man who has shown the ability to do just that in the primaries.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:27 PM
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39. Because he's too worried about his congressional seat.
He was thinking of moving to my state, Washington, and running for congress here. My state doesn't take kindly to carpet baggers however.

Looks like him and Marcy Kaptur have been Gerrymandered in to the same district.

Go Marcy!!!!!!!!!!
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:28 PM
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40. Because it is fodder to run against him
We should all be united.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:17 PM
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43. He's afraid that you'll mount a primary challenge against him?
Isn't that what stopped Bernie Sanders from continuing to talk about an Obama challenger?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:21 PM
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44. To get you attention.
Jesus H. Christ.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:22 PM
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45. If A Flower Were An Anvil... How Heavy Would It Smell ???
:shrug:
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:23 PM
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46. Damn, I just saw this on the Greatest Page!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:25 PM
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47. Nader/Kucinich.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:26 PM
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48. Because a UFO told him not to..
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:26 PM
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49. Can God make a quesadilla so hot that even He cannot eat it? n/t
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:29 PM
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52. After the Bush debacle he knows the game is rigged. nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:33 PM
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55. He ran in two elections after that.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:54 PM
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57. Took awhile to convince him - he's an optimist. nt
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:33 PM
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54. Obviously a corporatist DLC shill.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:39 PM
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56. Because he's touring with Oasis
They decided you suck and he doesn't.

RL
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 09:34 PM
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58. because Dennis knows....
....he would severely trounce Barack in ALL the primaries....Dennis the Progressive would beat and humiliate the incumbent Conserva-Dem so badly that it would drive the overwhelming majority of African Americans back into the Republican Party....

....Dennis, being a compassionate kind man and an astute politician, realizes the Republicans would sail to a colossal victory in November with their new found majority....Republicans would rush to cannibalize the economy and country bringing untold hardship to the very African Americans (and Progressives) Dennis has worked his entire life to help and support....

....the pain in Dennis' heart would be unbearable and crushing; he's too great of a statesman to ever let anything this heinous happen....
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 09:36 PM
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59. Because a pound of lead doesn't weigh more than a pound of feathers
Duh...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:13 AM
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61. He can't afford it?
Why do you think?

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 07:14 AM
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62. Why do you think Dennis Kucinich is not running against Barack Obama in the primary?
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