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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:00 PM
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Get the Attorneys in Place. Now.
Anybody not born yesterday knows that, if Obama wins reelection with less than 310 electoral votes, the Repulsives will launch a fucking battalion of lawyers challenging the results in every damn state the President won by 50,000 votes or fewer.

I hope the White House has a shitload already retained for just this one purpose.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:04 PM
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1. That's the plan, man! & To think Repubs very effectively waved both Gore & Kerry off of doing the
same thing!!!

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:09 PM
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2. Do you think they do? We just never seem to fucking learn!
Who would be in charge of that? I don't have a lot of faith in Holder, so I hope it's not him.

We need some Nancy what's-her-names pit bulls on this.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:11 PM
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3. Maybe/maybe not;
I'm more concerned about what repugs are doing NOW in the States re: hampering voting/registration, AND what they WILL DO to STEAL another presidential election.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:18 PM
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6. I know - what they're doing to stop (Dem) voters it truly
horrific -- Third Reich kind of stuff IMO! God, I hope this administration is all over it! I don't know if the Fed gov can do something in each State, district, but they sure as hell can get on the Senators and Congresspeople to kick it up back home, don't you think?

At this rate, if they're all successful, there will be nothing to steal from the election.

They learned THEIR lesson, they got caught so switched their tactics. PLEASE let us have learned ours!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:32 PM
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10. I've read of some actions/queries by some in Congress, I think,
but I'm highly suspicious that anything will bear fruit.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:07 PM
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18. I know. It gets so discouraging being a Dem at times. nt
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:12 PM
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4. In Fla in 2000 and 2004 some of "our" lawyers were really "their" lawyers
Go figure.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:21 PM
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7. Names, please
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:31 PM
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9. I don't know their names
But there were spies.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:36 AM
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21. What evidence is there of this?
Has anyone from Gore's legal team come forward and made any accusations?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:38 PM
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12. How about Ted Olson?
In the meantime, please do your own Google searches.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:33 AM
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20. Ted Olson was not one of "our" lawyers
He represented Bush.
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IndyPragmatist Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:15 PM
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5. Do you think he will get that many electoral votes? I don't
Just looking at the political landscape, I don't think he has a chance (unless Perry is the Republican candidate).

Look at the states that went for him that will almost certainly go back.
Indiana 11 votes (you know as well as I that he has no chance in 2012 here)
Ohio 20 votes
Florida 27 votes
North Carolina 15 votes
Virginia 13 votes
Iowa 7 votes

Thats 93 votes that are almost impossible for him to win this time that he won in 2008. The best bet for Democrats is to run another candidate (Hillary).
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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 05:28 PM
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19. I agree with you on our state
Indiana will revert to its Redness, as will North Carolina. But I think Obama can still retain the other states you mentioned.
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:30 PM
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8. Obama Voter Protection team
The DNC has a good database on Democratic lawyers who are willing to help. I was on the Obama voter protection team in 2008 and have already been contacted about working again in 2012. I was also one of the 3000+ lawyers who went to Florida in 2004 for Kerry Edwards voter protection.

In 2004 and 2008, the DNC was successful in stopping some of the GOP efforts at voter suppression. The DNC has maintained an injunction in place against the RNC since 1983 on voter caging and voter suppression and that injunction is not scheduled to expire for some time.

There will be lawyers on the ground in key states. The real issues will be things like voter id laws and games like changing how electoral votes are allocated such as the proposal to change Penn. law.

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:54 PM
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17. I'm on that team, too.. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:36 PM
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11. Link here
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:44 PM
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13. We allegedly had attorneys in place with Kerry and they NEVER used them.
Edited on Tue Sep-20-11 03:44 PM by Melissa G
We need DEMs that are not owned by the powers that be.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:46 PM
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14. Thanks for saving me the trouble - I was going to post the exact same sentiment!
We supposedly had "teams of lawyers" ready to pounce on any Republican poll worker that even looked at a potential voter in an odd way...
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:52 PM
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15. Yep. We went to bed thinking they would fight
Edited on Tue Sep-20-11 03:53 PM by Melissa G
because they promised they would. http://articles.nydailynews.com/2004-11-03/news/18282634_1_kerry-headquarters-exit-polls-counted

When I woke up, it was to a Dem folding like a cheap suit. It made me sick to my stomach. If they ever had the lawyers, it was just for show.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:53 PM
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16. This is so important and often over looked...
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