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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:33 PM
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Really - I just don't even have a subject line with this latest Santorum comment! I'm baffled!
Santorum mocks Medicare with ‘food insurance’ proposal
http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/santorum-mocks-medicare-with-food-insurance-proposal/

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum Wednesday attempted to illustrate the problem with Medicare by comparing it to “food insurance.”

“How many people in this room can tell me what their latest health care procedure cost?” the candidate asked a group of supporters in Aiken, South Carolina. “How many can tell me what a gallon of milk costs? You all can, right? Why? Because you pay for it. But medical procedures you don’t pay for. Even going to the doctor, even basic ordinary care, you don’t pay for.”

“Imagine if we had another necessity: food. Anybody believe that food is not as important as health care or even more important, right? What if we had food insurance? And then everybody instead of — because of course if you hear all these people, ‘Everybody should have a right to health care.’ Well, I’m going to stand up and say, ‘Everybody should have a right to food. We’re going to provide everybody food insurance because people shouldn’t have to make decisions about whether to feed themselves or have cable television. They should have food as a right.’”

He continued: “So we’re going to have food insurance. So what’s going to happen? You’re going to go and you’re going to pay the grocery store 500 bucks. Then you go to the grocery story and there are no prices on anything, shelves are full, no prices on anything. You just go and get whatever you want. And you check out and they have a scanner and you check out and there’s prices on there but they’ll say, ‘Well, this bill is $435 and your bill is $42.10


Seriously I think my head is about to explode trying to interpret Santorumese, The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that about equals what he just said!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:37 PM
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1. I'm still working on his napkin lesson
In the olden days, someone this untethered from reality would have been institutionalized or at least accompanied by a handler on his infrequent forays into the outside world. Things stymie little Ricky, and he has trouble working them out. For some reason, there are gullible people who see his inept flailings and decide that he's worth their vote.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:38 PM
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2. I'll interpret...
"fuck you, you have food, you can't afford it, but fuck you anyway and stop complaining about the high cost of health care and it's insurance because we, the stupid greedy fucks on the right, don't give a shit about your problems and only want to further line our pockets with money from your wanton stupidity and ignorance. And don't even try to make sense of my double talk, I don't even understand it".

did that help?
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:40 PM
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3. Dumber. Than. Dirt.
<facepalm>
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:40 PM
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4. My last medical procedure cost 700
what does he not think we look at the insurance form to see what they will and won't cover? Welcome to the real world where average everyday Americans even with insurance look at their mail and know how much medical procedures cost. Talk about living in a bubble.
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:55 PM
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9. Of course we know...
and you look at the price the insurance company paid in comparison to what someone without insurance would have paid for the exact same care and then you go find something to do to calm yourself down before you break something.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:42 PM
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5. So, is he trying to say that people should pay all there medical expenses directly? I think if he's
attempting to argue Medicare is wasteful (paying $500 instead of $42.10??), then he should look at what the whole insurance industry does to the cost of medical procedures!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:46 PM
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6. Well I know how much that office visit costs Rick
100 bucks average.. a specialist can go all the way to 500 buckaroos.

I also know how much my meds would cost without insurance.

I also know that... an MRI that runs over 10K in the good ol of US of A, runs 150 in Japan... for the same exact condition. I am talking the actual cost Rick.

Why is that Rick?

Or that the same visit in Canada runs administratively 25 bucks.

Let's not keep going there Rick.

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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:51 PM
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7. That's why they came up with food stamps, dipshit.
What a fucking moron.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:02 PM
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13. Exactly what I was going to point out.
"There IS food insurance Mr. Sphinctorum. It's called Food Stamps."
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:53 PM
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8. I think he means people would get unnecessary medical procedures
if they were able to.

But yeah, his own mouth is definitely his worst enemy.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:59 PM
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10. I think he is trying to make us believe that the cost of
medicine is going up because of medicare, instead of the cost of medicare going up because of increased expense of medical care.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 02:59 PM
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11. You have to have a post grad degree in accounting and the patience of Job to fully get it..
Have anything remotely serious and the bills will dribble in for months from people and organizations about which you know absolutely zip.

And every single piece of paper you get seems to be written in such a way as to be as difficult as possible to properly interpret.



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Johnny Noshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:07 PM
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15. It was many years ago now...
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 03:08 PM by Johnny Noshoes
But I remember when I was hospitalized with complications from pneumonia and ended up having surgery. I had a job and health insurance back then - 1994. Well the insurance company sent me one of those detailed lists they send out. The hospital billed something close to 40 grand for "room and board." Now I was covered but jeez you can spend two weeks at the Savoy in London for less than that - and this was nearly 20 years ago.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:01 PM
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12. Yes rick the dick- food is a right and no we don't have food insurance
but we do have a food stamp program for people who can't afford it. And dear rick the dick, I do know what my family's last medical bills were even though insurance paid the bill. The bills were just under 100,000.00 and 37,000.00. It was for my husbands two heart surgeries.

You see rick the dick, the insurance company sent us a statement. The statement told us what they paid, what the dr charged and how much we would have to pay. So you see rick the dick- not everyone is as stupid as you. Now why don't you go back to your man on dog sex obsession and let the smart people worry about health care?
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 03:02 PM
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14. Santorum's really polished up his critical stinking skills
n/t
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:15 PM
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16. What if there really was such a thing as food insurance?
Let's play with this for a minute because it could be fun.

There's a food insurance company. You pay them $500 per month per member of your household. If you are married with two kids you pay $2000 per month. You get a card that says "the bearer of this card receives his groceries with a 10 percent per visit copay." And because the food companies bought enough congressmen, there's a food insurance mandate.

Now it's grocery day. You go to the store and put all the food for the week in your cart. But what you didn't know is, Mrs. Smith over in East Holland used her food insurance card to pay for the food for a wedding with 3000 guests. They dined on steak, lobster and salads with nine kinds of lettuce. In order for the food insurance company to show a profit this quarter, the cashiers have been ordered to deny coverage for meats and fresh vegetables. So...when you get to the checkstand, the cashier throws all the meat and fresh veggies in a returns cart and you've got to feed your family nothing but soup and frozen pizza until they decide meat is a covered foodstuff again.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:18 PM
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17. That comment screams frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:19 PM
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18. O.M.G. He is actually saying death by starvation is the proper result for people who cannot pay.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 08:20 PM by WinkyDink
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:20 PM
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19. Analogy does not work because things are not analogous
One may not get sick. One may spend years not being sick. When one is sick, it costs a lot if one gets very sick.

One needs food daily.

Insurance is for things that will cost a whole lot if you get hit with them, but nothing when you don't which may be the case for a long time. Food is relatively cheap, in the scheme of things.

If he's talking about the chance of not being able to pay for food, that's food stamps - essentially that's food insurance. Likely he things that should be privatized. If the government did not do it, we might indeed buy food insurance and unemployment insurance from the private sector.



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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:27 PM
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20. Ricky just said that people should starve to death that cannot
afford food. THAT IS WHAT HE SAID.

Fucking asshole, I hope an elephant sits on his head.
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:36 PM
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21. What we need is medical insurance insurance.
I think the main reason we don't know the exact cost of medical procedures is that it would give us heart attacks if we did. I would love to know where the money goes. The part that doctors, nurses, and other hands on providers get is okay with me, just show me the money trail for the rest.

We need better answers to, "Why does it cost so much?", than, "That's what they charge."
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:39 PM
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22. Virtually all medical care is custom-tailored.
Groceries generally aren't. A can of Spam is a can of Spam. A knee replacement isn't.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:42 PM
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23. I bet he knows how much man-on-dog sex costs!
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