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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:15 PM
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So, how long after Troy Davis executed will Officer McPhail be resurrected?
We need to know so we can prepare the welcome back celebration, and....

What?

Killing Troy Davis won't bring McPhail back to life?

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Then why bother?
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:17 PM
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1. Recommended to somewhere between equal to or less than zero. Because yeah.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 07:18 PM by Brickbat
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:21 PM
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2. Minutes. Half an hour tops.
This is actually a good question to ask about any harsh felony punishment. Is this making things better or just adding evil to evil?
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:23 PM
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4. Remember when your parents told you
"two wrongs don't make a right?"

They still don't.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:22 PM
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3. That's never been the argument
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 07:23 PM by RZM
Why do people support the death penalty? I don't know. Lots of reasons I guess . . . vengeance, 'an eye for an eye,' deterrence (not that there's evidence for that), closure for the victim's family, etc. Personally I don't really believe in any of those, but that's just me. I don't think that anybody believes it will bring the victim back. Your argument here is about as 'straw man' as they come.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:23 PM
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5. Every argument in favor of the death penalty
is a straw man.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:26 PM
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8. Maybe . . . I don't know
Sometimes it probably does bring closure, though most of the time I doubt it. But it is a means of vengeance and it certainly fits the definition of 'eye for an eye.' I'm not saying those are good enough arguments to execute somebody. But they aren't all made of straw
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:28 PM
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10. The thing some people don't know about revenge
is that after you get it, there's an emptiness and a coldness there. You lose part of yourself in the process.

There is no good excuse, none at all, to take one person's life. End of story.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:27 PM
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9. Animals protect their kin but it's only us with these big brains
that think we can protect our dead kin by kiliing others. That's the fundamental human story, unfortunately. The return of the repressed with no return.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:29 PM
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11. k&r for this post especially
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:24 PM
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6. Lots of cop cars arriving at prison with blue lights and sirens.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:24 PM
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7. Gotti died in prison of cancer , the wrong people.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:32 PM
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12. Could you be more offensive? I oppose the death penalty & certainly believe Davis
case to be riddled with reasonable doubt of guilt. I have signed so many petitions to halt his execution, I can't even recall which ones I've already signed and which might be new. I just sign them all and try to add personal wording to all the letters.

That said, the man who died was behaving in a very heroic way--trying to save a homeless man. It matters not who killed him, he deserves not to be referred to in such a flip and disrespectful manner. It is exploiting a tragedy to give you your snark platform and I think you ought to delete this post. Maybe take the night off and consider what it means to be a compassionate human being. :shrug:
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:34 PM
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13. Great post!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:40 PM
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15. Killing Troy Davis cheapens McPhail's life.
It cheapens what he did. Especially if we find conclusive proof down the road that Davis was innocent.

And even if Davis DID kill McPhail, killing him does no good.

There's a lot of grave-dancing going on (fortunately prematurely) over Davis' execution. Not here, thank goodness, but all over.

There is no good reason to execute Troy Davis.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:50 PM
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16. You reply does not even address ANYTHING I said...
To go on an on about how wrong it is to execute Davis, when my thread clearly indicated my agreement (as well as everyone else on the thread)--and as though you were countering my point, is disingenuous.

It is YOU who is cheapening this man's reputation with your flip "resurrection" comment. It is disgusting.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:44 PM
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17. I'm sorry you feel that way.
I'm disgusted by the whole situation. And more people need to be disgusted about this.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:50 PM
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19. Compassion? Nothing that is happening in GA tonight is compassionate.
Lets talk about fucking compassion.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:06 PM
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20. Your comment has nothing to do with my posting...
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 09:07 PM by hlthe2b
I too am disgusted at what is happening in GA. While I am disgusted at the attempt to execute Davis, denigrating the police officer victim--who by all accounts died a hero-- with flippant comments about his resurrection is hardly appropriate. Though I disagree vehemently with his family's desire that Davis be executed, they too are victims.

Understanding all of THAT is to show a modicum of compassion.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:35 PM
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14. Three days
I read somewhere
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:47 PM
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18. McFail's mother might believe he will be resurrected.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 08:55 PM by Avalux
When I heard her CNN interview, thick with bloodlust, I couldn't help but think "does this woman not understand that executing Davis will not bring back her son or lessen the pain?" An eye for an eye does no one good.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:10 PM
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21. I won't criticize someone who has been victimized by such a terrible tragedy in her life.
None of us can understand how she is feeling, and God willing, none of us will ever have to experience what she has. Even for others who have had famliy members murdered and opposed the killer's execution, I would hope that they would understand that everyone is unique and lives through the experience differently.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:14 PM
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22. Yeah! And since keeping Davis in prison won't bring McPhail back either, we should just release him!
:crazy:
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 09:15 PM
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23. Great reply.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 09:16 PM by NaturalHigh
:thumbsup:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 04:53 PM
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24. Hey, it gives the RW assholes...
...somthing to clap and cheer about.

:puke:
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