MacPhail's mother reacts...

[one_voice]

Anneliese MacPhail, mother of slain officer Mark Allen MacPhail's, reacts after the phone call telling her that the U.S. Supreme Court denies a stay of execution for Troy Davis.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/a-mothers-vigil-1186182.html

[Zax2me]

1. FINALLY. A thread on the REAL victims.

[DJ13]

2. Thres more than one victim here

[one_voice]

3. Yes indeed. n/t

[bigwillq]

8. You were free to start one at any time (nt)

[pacalo]

13. Our country is also a victim. What happened to Troy Davis could happen to any of us.

[shireen]

36. +1 nt

[spanone]

47. if one innocent man gets put to death we are all murderers

[NaturalHigh]

4. I hope she finds peace.

[one_voice]

6. Agreed...

two mothers have lost sons. No one wins in this situation.

[1StrongBlackMan]

19. But, sadly ...

we are only certain about one of these mother's son's murder(s).

[one_voice]

27. Yes, you're correct...

I was looking at it from a mother's perspective.

It's a travesty. My heart hurts for both women,

Someone has to be held accountable for this miscarriage of justice.

[Name removed]

5. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[NaturalHigh]

7. How do you know that she is bigoted, racist, or a "cracker"?

What a stupid, racist, insensitive post toward the mother of a murder victim.

[Name removed]

10. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[pintobean]

12. You should just delete both your posts and save the mods the trouble

[NaturalHigh]

16. "Take one look at her"?

Your posts are more and more repulsive.

[emilyg]

18. May I say I'm glad you

don't live in Ga.

[hlthe2b]

15. She lost her son who was killed trying to save a homeless man...

While I don't advocate the death penalty whatsoever and would hope I would never request the DP as some form of warped "justice" for the loss of someone close to me, this derision of the victim's family is just disgusting.

It is the horribly broken criminal justice system that should be the focus of our anger... Not the family members of the victim! Geebus. Show some humanity.

[cabot]

9. She does a disservice to her son's memory

by celebrating the death of a human being.

[pintobean]

14. That doesn't look like celebration to me

and her son's memory will be carried on by those who loved him, not you.

[Lost-in-FL]

22. I saw her being interviewed on CNN and she looked happy to me.

You really have to be filled with hate to be so open to rejoice in front of the cameras about someone's death.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Hmm not quite

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1982392

[Lost-in-FL]

33. I get your point, however, MANY families of victims react differently...

They choose to get help and do not let themselves be consumed by negative emotions. They take it upon themselves to find better ways to grieve.

Sorry, but I do not feel sorry for her. This did not happened yesterday, she had plenty of time and resources to get help with grieving. I know her son was killed violently and did not deserved it. If she cannot change that her son is dead at least she can try changing her attitude.

[pintobean]

37. Maybe she isn't thinking about satisfying you.

:shrug:

[zappaman]

38. well, she should be!

very selfish.
she needs to satisfy the pseudo-intellectuals among us!!!

[Lost-in-FL]

39. ?

And your point?

[pintobean]

40. She probably thinks her attitude is fine

I doubt she cares what you think of it.

[Lost-in-FL]

48. I'm sure she doesn't.

But I'm going to sleep great tonight!

[zappaman]

42. my point is

you don't know shit about her or her attitude.

[Lost-in-FL]

45. Please don't tell me!

You do know right?

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. While all that is true

the ultimate promise, illusory, is that the death of the perpetrator, will make things better. It is the promise of the system.

One of my former neighbors lost a dad to a murderer... he was promised this by the execution... to this day, or the last time I saw him, that peace never came.

And I could tell you the stories of many of my patients who were victims of many a violent crime. Or for that matter the child rapist we took to the hospital, who of couse was railroaded... and was a charming person.

But the system promises that death of the perpetrator will finally bring peace... alas it won't. And then, and only then, they might finally seek that help. The other promise is that then you can "move on." Which also proves illusory and false. Sometimes the best advocates against the DP are families of victims who feel cheated by the system that made promises that of course it could never keep.

This is why I am not quite agnostic on this, but I don't judge. This is also why I get the reaction. If I got a dollar for every time I got a demand for revenge...

[Lost-in-FL]

44. You can never recover from something like that. However, she is just making it worse for her. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Fully agreed

and I wish her to find that peace... I really do... to both families actually.

Help is what would help, in that we are not in disagreement.

Why I see more than just one family who becomes a victim in a DP case.

Well the family of the victim... and also the family of the perpetrator.

Why in the end I think it is barbaric, and tonight it is actually a good kettle of fish.

In this case what makes it more horrific is that chances are the perpetrator was not the one strapped to the gurney tonight. IF they ever find that out and decide to prosecute ... I really do not know how the family will react.

[Lost-in-FL]

49. "chances are the perpetrator was not the one strapped to the gurney tonigh"t

That is what is bothersome to me. I don't see the use for revenge. When it is accompanied by a bullish-like attitude, I have a real hard time with that.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. I am against the DP

on the grounds that we have executed innocent people..

That should be enough... to just commute all to life in prison.

If more innocent are behind bars (and there are a few)... then we can correct that mistake. Once dead.. we really can't.

As a society it is a great moral burden to the nation.

[emilyg]

17. I don't see a celebration.

[Rex]

11. Another feather in the cap of American justice.

This country is fucking sick and out of control. We celebrate death like it is cheap and easy. I never expected the SCOTUS to do anything, they are worthless corporate puppets.

[Pithlet]

20. She lost her son. She's hardly objective.

I feel sorry for her. As staunchly anti-DP as I am, I can never fault family members for how they feel.

[NaturalHigh]

21. I wish I could rec your reply.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. yup

+ 100000000 Brazilion

[Lost-in-FL]

26. Everyone grieves differently. Some feel the need to feed their hearts with hate. nt

[Firebrand Gary]

34. You are absolutely right.

[Old and In the Way]

35. Thank you.

Perfectly stated in your subject line. She is totally convinced that Davis murdered her son. If the day ever comes that new evidence vindicates Davis, I think it will only add to the nightmare she is already burdened with for the rest of her life. I feel sorry for her as well.

[TwilightGardener]

25. Can't judge her, I'm not in her shoes and hope to never be.

The family's reaction isn't really all that important anyway, in the scheme of things.

[one_voice]

29. I wasn't judging her...

I'm a mother and have no idea what either of these women are going through. I can't even begin to imagine how I'd react if I was either of these women.

Two sons lost...

[TwilightGardener]

31. I know you weren't, you were just posting the story. As a mom, I feel the same way.

Just sad all around for both families.

[one_voice]

32. We agree!

:hi:

[Distant Observer]

28. Where is that accent from . Not Georgia. Is it Dutch

[NaturalHigh]

30. That's what I was asking someone earlier.

She certainly doesn't have a Georgia accent.

[flvegan]

43. "I want my justice,"

I won't add anything further. It's enough...

[Zax2me]

51. No recs. wow.

Disgusting.