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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:49 AM
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Dog meat festival is canceled in China
REPORTING FROM BEIJING -- A 6-century-old tradition of dog eating collided this week with modern concepts about animal rights, and this time, modernity won.

Local authorities canceled a three-day festival that had been planned for Oct. 18 in Jinhua City, Zhejiang province, after tens of thousands of people who organized over the Internet complained.

The festival was part of a local tradition dating back to 1389, when legend has it that a Ming dynasty military hero who was trying to capture Jinhua decided to kill all the dogs so they wouldn't bark at night and disrupt his invasion.

"True, it was part of our cultural history, but not all culture should be inherited," said Chen Manhong, director of the Small Animal Protection Society Rescue in nearby Hangzhou. "Women used to have their feet bound but we don't do that anymore."

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2011/09/china-dog-meat-festival-is-canceled.html
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:53 AM
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1. "not all culture should be inherited"
I totally agree! People tend worship and defend "traditional" culture way too much, especially someone else's.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:01 AM
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7. Heresey! All culture should be considered of equal merit and worthy, honored and esteemed
Heard that here on DU more than often...I disagree then, I disagree now.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:53 AM
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2. We're having an Octopus Festival on my island tomorrow.
Lots of delicious tako-yaki!!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:43 PM
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25. japan
has the best festivals. i remember them from when i was a child.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:54 AM
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3. Isn't that the truth!
"...but not all culture should be inherited"
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:55 AM
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4. How about the Testicle Festival?
Pretty popular in the west.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:03 AM
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8. Not sure if the number of folks who love other's testicles is the same size as dog lovers
I for one have never seen anyone stop in the street, reach into someone else's pants, and stroke their testicles. I'm sure it happens, though....
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:06 AM
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10. Obviously you haven't run into the folks who love their dog's testicles.. no joke

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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:08 AM
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12. 425,000!!!
Hard to believe that number.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:13 AM
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13. Well, you have to divide by two /nt
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:07 AM
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11. They're more palatable...
...when they're called 'Rocky Mountain Oysters.' :)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 01:40 PM
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19. It's still on, Ben & Jerry's will be providing the dessert.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:57 AM
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5. Well some people like to wok their dogs.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:00 AM
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6. LOL!
:spank:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:04 AM
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9. Why do you think they call it "chow"

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 09:21 AM
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14. Seeing a skinned, whole dog carcass hanging in a restaurant...
...is disturbing. It's not at all like seeing a side of beef. It's an emotional reaction based on our culture's attachment to housepets.
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DataException Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:33 AM
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15. I've got no problem with it...
I personally believe that, if we were truly concerned with world hunger, that we would cart up all of the unwanted dogs and cats and ship them off to the millions of starving people around the world. These animals are getting killed anyway and incinerated.

I guarantee you that all of the starving people could care less if your giving them a hamburger, turkey burger, or fido burger. It's all just meat.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:46 AM
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16. If we were truly concerned with world hunger
We would simply be truly concerned with humanitarian efforts rather than war efforts; including providing and encouraging birth control. But since we'd rather be a fundamentalist-looking, corporate empire it's a moot point.

If there are Chinese opposed to this festival, good for them.
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DataException Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 01:12 PM
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17. All good points...
However, they could definitely use some extra meat as well.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 01:35 PM
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18. We have a long way to go on organization
We have a long way to go in getting organized and willing enough to selflessly help in order to do anything on any scale about world hunger, and we will have better resources than some poor group of stray dogs to feed people by the time we advance that far.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:17 PM
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20. And if someone points out that many that are positively horrified by the thought of eating a dog
are perfectly happy to eat a cow, chicken, turkey, or pig, many a fit will be pitched.

We shouldn't have to respect the culture of others, but they should goddamned well respect ours is apparently how it works.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:46 PM
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21. Right...
Activists said 5,000 to 10,000 dogs would be butchered for the festival without regard to their suffering. Photographs and graphic accounts of the slaughter have circulated for the last few weeks over the Internet, with tens of thousands of people expressing outrage.

"Dogs would be stabbed, strangled and even beaten into comas and thrown into boiling water. Some dogs woke up in the extremely hot water and they struggled, but the vendors kept pushing them, plucking their fur," wrote one activist, Wang Lingyi, in a micro-blog posting.
Never mind that such a thing would constitute cruelty no matter where you did it or what animal you did it to, that there are apparently photos of this happening, or that it's Chinese activists working to have this canceled. You just keep beating that cultural relativism horse (no pun intended).
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:48 PM
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22. They are all horrifying, but dogs more so.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:02 PM
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23. We prefer our dogs to die silently in shelters like our prisoners
so we can pretend to "really" care about dogs. OMG some cultures kill and eat dogs. So we kill them and toss them away like so much garbage by the thousands. The whole myth Americans "care" about dogs is another myth I don't get. Some Americans care really, really deeply about dogs and cats. Most pretend to care, but really don't do anything to prevent the unnecessary build up and killing of pets in our animal shelters.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:41 PM
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24. Meat is murder. All meat.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:58 PM
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26. Why did you write that?
Makes me want to throw up the steak that I just eat, and cancel my planned fish dinner for tomorrow. Guess I will have to settle for chicken.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:08 PM
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28. Why did you write that?
Immature? Lashing out? Clueless? Making a point that being an asshole is terribly easy? Passive aggression is trendy now?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:07 PM
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27. Which is why, maybe, we should not eat any of them.
Respecting culture aside, we don't have to barbaric any more.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:04 AM
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29. GOOD!
:thumbsup:
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