If Christie's weight is fair game because he might a candidate

[Dreamer Tatum]

...then please restrict your comments to clinical, factual statements.

If you are so suddenly concerned with the health of a Republican candidate, then your posts
will concern his cardiovascular heath, his cholesterol, the stress on his joints, the health
of his liver and gallbladder, and so forth.

"Fat fuck" is just one invective precluded by the above suggestion.

[tblue]

1. I never have and never will.

We don't even need to.

[roguevalley]

35. I don't believe he could live through a run. He's already been

hospitalized once and he looks like shit.

[MyUncle]

40. A picture is worth 1000 words.

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=christie+%26+obama&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&nord=1&biw=1111&bih=34&tbm=isch&tbnid=i3UUh9C8LeZjqM:&imgrefurl=http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/38098/christie-obama-in-abbott-costello-remake/&docid=mtnHCIe5kRZKfM&w=390&h=477&ei=lZ6CTp7pBeXjiALDqPCADQ&zoom=1

[abq e streeter]

2. Agreed 100% n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

The Free Market of Blocked Aortas will decide.

[HopeHoops]

3. Oh come on - weren't you worried about Clinton's health?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

4. Especially because we don't know his sexual practices.

[closeupready]

5. As long as the Republican loses, I agree.

If he wins, then I disagree.

[Overseas]

6. His political operatives will work the sympathy angle very skillfully--

getting folks to defend him against attacks on his fatness and stupid fat jokes on TV. They'll build some support that way. There are millions of dieters.
To political operatives, that's golden.

They can also keep a record of the insults and stir up controversy over this or that example of anti-fat taunting in order to distract the media from discussions of Christie's many policy failures.

[madinmaryland]

7. His health is fair game as long as it could create a possibility that he might

not be able to finish his term. It was a concern to me with McCain, also, and would be a concern if there was a health issue with a democrat.

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[pintobean]

11. An internet bad ass

:rofl:

[soleft]

12. So become what you detest?

Uh uh. No way. But you go ahead.

[Lucian]

9. Why is it not okay to talk about Christie and his weight but it's okay to talk about Limbaugh's?

[movonne]

10. He just doesn't make a great image for america... the europeans

think 80% of us look like that..When they see our policemen and crowds
walking down the street look like that..maybe he is the right image...

[Johonny]

13. That's not how they use these issues

in politics lately the best way to make it fair game is to make polls and ask questions if it is fair game. See how republicans use the presidents race. You talk about it a lot, asking over and over again is it fair to use it, should they use it, will they use it. Now you can always conclude no. But you see you don't ever kill the issue and tomorrow another version of the question will appear. You talk about his race without ever "really" talking about it. That is how Christie's weight will be used. For example, the past 24 hrs on the DU. In modern politics it will be fair game and will be used exactly as it is being used right now.

[Kalidurga]

14. I don't care what any of the Republicans look like....

what they weigh, whether they are male or female, whether they have even minor health issues, or what religion they are. Every single one of them is insane and not only insane but the bad kind of insane that can hurt this country and it has. If they were the other kind of insane it might be ok, but they aren't they are the selfish, mean spirited, kind of crazy.

[Johonny]

24. If you don't care why are you talking in a thread about it

if all the people that say it isn't fair game, why are they creating polls and threads. People defend his weight, people making fat jokes. The people that want this issue out there don't care what side you are on. They care, that you care about it at all. That's how the game is played. They get you talking about it. They get you thinking about it. Every time you see Christie you think about his weight. Is it and issue is it not? They keep the question open, day after day after day... Is Sarah Palin a real candidate, Is Obama's race an issue, Is Bachmann's headaches an issue, Is Romney's religion an issue? The goal isn't to tell a lot of fat jokes, the goal is to get and keep people defending it, attaching it, ect... day after day.

IF they didn't get us talking about this crap we might protest wall street or something:)

[7wo7rees]

15. Much like Reagan removing Carter's solar panels from the WH...

...if Christie won, he would replace Michelle's organic garden with a cheeseburger garden.

[loyalsister]

16. + 100

It's the most childish bigotry.

[Initech]

17. If Obama's birth certificate is fair game for the GOP, Christie's weight can be fair game for us.

[LanternWaste]

23. I'd hate to think that we predicate out ethics on that of group we find unethical...

I'd hate to think that we predicate out ethics on that of group we find unethical. :shrug:

It's a typical thing for fourth and fifth graders to do. In adults, not so much.

[Initech]

27. My logic in this though is that this is the same type of crap we've had to put up with....

For four straight elections! Hell you could trace this negative campaigning and attack the messenger shit back to Raygun. I think if we throw it back in their faces a bit it might send 'em packing. Now you could argue that this falls under "two wrongs don't make a right" but when have these idiots ever backed up their logic and arguments with real facts?

[LanternWaste]

29. If they fail to use logic and facts, do we then follow suit?

We're all going to rationalize petulant behavior at one time or another...

I believe you're predicating your own, personal ethics on the actions of someone/a group you find unethical-- there's simply no logic in that in this context.

If they fail to use logic and facts, do we then follow suit?

[Initech]

32. Good point.

[Paladin]

36. How's That "Logic and Facts" Approach Working For You?

FYI, the right-wingers aren't swayed by such sophistication. And a liberal superiority complex is a poor substitute for effectively defending what's left of this country......

[rhett o rick]

31. You miss the point. We are above what the repukes are. Whatever the

other side does, doesnt justify our bigotry.

[Initech]

33. That's true - you can't fight bigotry with bigotry that's for sure.

[rhett o rick]

34. It's easy for me to say but I catch myself doing it. nm

[undeterred]

18. It is a fearsome thing to point out the intolerance of the "tolerant".

[Missy Vixen]

19. +10,000

>"Fat fuck" is just one invective precluded by the above suggestion.<

I'm really sick of the thinly-veiled bigotry masquerading as "concern". Even more, I am grateful I do not have to deal with those who believe their name-calling and bullying is acceptable IRL.

Thanks, Dreamer Tatum.

[The Second Stone]

20. I'm about 40 pounds overweight

and my doctor gives me hell over it. Christie is much heavier than I am, and morbidly obese. It is a major health concern.

[LanternWaste]

22. So is smoking.

"It is a major health concern...."

So is smoking.

[11 Bravo]

21. OK, he's not a "fuck".

[DLine]

25. As a fatty myself

I will stay away from the subject. Though I would like to think were I in his shoes I could control my weight better. I imagine being governor means he doesnt shop at the grocery store and probably has a lot of his meals prepared for him. That would be a huge plus for anybody dieting.

[southernyankeebelle]

26. His weight to be president wouldn't effect my vote. He is rude a bastard.

[sabrina 1]

28. Obama smokes. Where are all the criticisms here in DU

where smokers are treated worse than genocidal maniacs by, hypocritically, often those who are loyal supporters of the president? If Christie smoked apparently it would be a major crime because you are all 'worried about his health and how he might no make it through his term of office'! :rofl: Who do all of you who support this kind of hypocrisy think you're kidding.

But practically speaking, what would be accomplished by pointing out that he is overweight? How does his weight affect his policies? Does anyone think that people on the Left who are always lecturing others about 'bigotry and prejudice' are not going to be called hypocrites when they forget their own 'standards' for political purposes? And rightfully so.

Whose minds will be changed by pointing out what is obvious to people who can see? They love Limbaugh, so clearly the most likely Christie voters don't care about his weight. It is a losing tactic, and shows only hypocrisy. And fear of taking him on on the issues.

I can't keep up with the constantly changing principles of the left. I thought we were better than the right, but it is increasingly clear to me that the charge that both parties are just the mirror image of each, may actually be true.

[LanternWaste]

30. I think you're mistaking human frailties and political platforms

"it is increasingly clear to me that the charge that both parties are just the mirror image of each, may actually be true...."


We often hold others to a higher standard than we hold ourselves. But that's an indictment that lies wholly within the individual rather than the party platforms.

Democrats and Republicans are two completely different animals... please don't let this grade school, petulant taunting engaged in by the Vocal Minority convince you otherwise.

[autorank]

37. Good point - How about "incredibly unpopuar New Jersey Governor Christie"

The guy takes helicopters to little league games or some similar outrage. He's a phoney who has been unmasked and
is falling like a rock. People aren't stupid. They spotted him. The "fat' comments are wrong and a distraction.

[Ilsa]

38. I'm more concerned about his asthma. It is severe enough that he

had an asthma attack earlier this year and ended up hospitalized.

[HipChick]

39. My sister has weight problem...3 stents and a triple bypass later

could not convince her that she needs to stick to a lifestyle change. I found it selfish that she impacts the rest of the family with her health issues. She doesn't have a gland or medical problem..I've seen her eat..after the by-pass she was still eating pizza and fried chicken..

[Hoosier Daddy]

41. Christie will not BE a candidate

Bank it.