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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:20 AM
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Why You Should Eat Yak Instead of Beef

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Why You Should Eat Yak Instead of Beef

Posted on Sep 27, 2011
By Christopher Ketcham


I first comprehended the awfulness of the ranching industry when the cows of Moonlight Meadows, high in the La Sal Mountains of Utah, surrounded me and began shitting. They had been trucked in from the canyons of the lowland desert countryside, near the town of Moab, to graze summer long on the free grass in the mountains—public grass, as this was land protected in trust for the American people by the federal government, under the auspices of the U.S. Forest Service. But none of it was much protected; the feces were the visceral evidence of this.

Along the trail the cows had laid big diarrheal pies, ice slippery, landmine-like, which splashed onto socks, legs and shorts. Where the trail steepened, the shit was treacherous. Soon I was surfing in it and finally was thrown like a clown on a banana peel. I lay there feeling stupid and looked around at the hundreds of cattle in the field nearby, one of many herds strewn in the mountains. A mother turned her ass to me and fired a big green load of diarrhea. Another cow pissed in an arc like a fire hose.

The cows evacuated thus onto the land and into the air, sometimes onto one another’s backs and into eyes, the shit where it had dried swirling in dust devils when the wind kicked up and where it was sloppy and wet running in streams, in puddles, in steaming black pools. The stench was ammoniacal, sulfurous, and as I lay there in my dung-splash wallow, it was, quite suddenly, an unbearable experience: not just the smell of bowels evacuating, of creatures destined for the slaughterhouse as death on the hoof, but the cultural and political travesty it represented, the ecocidal meaning of it.

Cows are terribly destructive creatures, especially in arid climates. Livestock are considered by a quorum of scientists as the No. 1 cause of species extinction, topsoil loss, deforestation and desertification in the American West. They muck or stomp or gorge out of existence streams, whole watersheds, rare grasses and shrubs, entire ecosystems in micro. Their big heavy hooves trample the soil, eroding it often beyond repair. Just as the cow is an invasive species, an exotic in the West—an import of Spanish missionaries in the 16th century—it brings invasive weeds that triumph in its midst: the water-greedy tamarisk, for example, along with the greedier Russian olive and the useless Russian thistle, better known as tumbleweed. A 1998 study from the Journal of Arid Environments found that a hundred years of livestock grazing on public lands near the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico was more damaging in terms of long-term development and recovery of flora than multiple nuclear bomb blasts. ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_you_should_eat_yak_instead_of_beef_20110927/



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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:21 AM
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1. are those the only 2 choices i have?
fuck.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:44 AM
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33. Buffalo, wild boar, elk, venison are all good. Collard greens and
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 11:47 AM by alfredo
white beens is even better. Don't forget the cornbread.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:05 PM
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39. Mmmmmmmmmmmm . . . . Bison . . .
:loveya:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:52 PM
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52. Bison is mighty tasty....and better for you than the beef you get on the stores...
...
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:43 AM
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64. Wild boar is my favorite.
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:23 AM
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2. No thank you. nt
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:23 AM
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3. like the 60,000,000 buffalo didn't shit?
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 07:24 AM by hobbit709
or the annual wildebeest migration.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:25 AM
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4. Buffalo are a whole different kettle of fish
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 07:26 AM by SpiralHawk
to mangle a metaphor...

They do not do the damage cows do...check it out...
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:26 AM
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6. They still leave metabolic byproducts.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:45 AM
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21. And those hyperbolic metabolic byproducts still fertilize the high plains
"Where the hooves of the buffalo touch the earth, there is where the fertility will be found."

- Wise Olde Indiane Sayinge (paRaPhrAseD)

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQT5bpY-VPGNrZMC3TdUM7qwYS_tkv3t83JsP3wtOv0MCOkNHs_y9YZUc5D0w
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:50 AM
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65. Probably one reason why the Midwest is so fertile - at one time, there will tens of millions of buff
buffalo roaming the area from the Rockies to the East Coast.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:39 AM
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32. Pretty tasty too....the meat is very low in fat.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:48 AM
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34. Bison is very tasty indeed!
Never seen yak, though I'd definitely give it a try.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:25 AM
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5. Yak meat is excellent
wonderful mild flavor and healthier than beef.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:32 AM
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7. Well...
...until such a time as the Rib Eye steak is unavailable from Ruth's Chris (best freaking cut of meat you will ever consume) - I will continue eating beef.

Holy crap - now I need to go to Ruth's ....cannot afford it, but need it anyway.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:18 PM
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46. The Ruth's Chris near me has only mediocre beef.
The Rib Eye there is always rather fatty and not terribly flavorful. The Morton's next to me has much tastier steak and is cheaper, especially when factoring in sides. I've heard so many great things about Ruth's Chris, but I've never had a great steak there. And when I spend $20 on a steak alone, I expect it to be great.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:41 AM
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8. Where can I even buy yak meat?
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:45 AM
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9. I think obtaining yak meat involves
a long plane ride, the very best in outdoor gear, and a bow a some arrows.


Or some pricey place like Whole Paycheck.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:46 AM
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10. The cost would be about the same either way.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:04 AM
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13. Well if they want to sell me yak meat for between $1.49 and $2.99/ lb (depending on the cut)...
then I'll eat yak like a motherfucker. I've already gotten rid of most beef in favor of chicken and pork (pork makes a surprisingly good chili). But Yak roast at $2.99 would be ok by me.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:49 AM
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23. you should try making a chili with stew beef, ground bison, and ground pork. drool...
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:47 AM
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11. Raising cattle doesn't have to be that destructive.
What is described is overgrazing, overcrowding and really bad farming practices. If a few cattle are kept and rotated from pasture to pasture, not allowing the herd to get too big and destructive, cattle will not hurt the environment. It's when they are thrown out, forced to fend for themselves, they get too large a herd and really damage the ecosystem.

Yaks and horses will do the same amount of damage if they are overcrowded and neglected.

It's really laziness on the part of the cowboy. If it was their land would they overgraze it and destroy it?

You know about 5 sheep can be grazed on an acre with no damage to the land if you rotate them from pasture to pasture never letting the grass get shorter than 6 inches. I think sheep would make better hamburgers than beef.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:52 AM
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12. + 1. It would be a matter of time before ranchers would have yaks injected with
antibiotics and hormones like cattle, feed them bovine cadaver meal and GM corn instead of grass, etc. It's the process that's the problem more than the zoological choice of "What's for Dinner".
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:15 PM
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44. +1. It is how it is done. thanks for your post.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:05 AM
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14. Buffalo, goat, yak ... Viva la Difference!
I like to eat wild boar from Texas - they have a boar problem & it's very good to eat.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:02 AM
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27. Goat is something Americans rarely eat now
Goat dairy products are making a little comeback though. I have never had wild boar, but I think that would be a great way to help diminish the population of boars and feed people at the same time. Imagine how happy food pantries and shelters would be to have that meat.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:46 AM
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31. it's very lean -- so it can be tricky to cook -- but it's delish!
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:03 AM
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28. Ick. I hate boar.
But I've never tried yak. speaking of which, all this talk about how we carnivores should switch from beef to another animal flesh which is, it is argued, less harmful to the environment reminds me of the push for Ostrich flesh from back in the 90's. That never took off. Why would yak meat take off?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:15 AM
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15. MorningStar Farms.
No slaughter, no destruction to the soil, no big diarrheal pies.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:20 AM
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16. I can just imagine how the TV advertisement would look.
Cows projectile defecating at one another over at "the competition's" farm
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:03 PM
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37. Chickfila might be interested for their "Eat Mor Chikin" campaign
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:45 PM
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51. They are a disgusting fundamentalist organization.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:32 PM
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56. Cows covered in diarhea on a billboard with the catch phrase "Eat Mor Chikin" would sell a lot of
fundamentalist sammiches.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:45 AM
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20. And...
...no juicy Rib Eye steaks - cooked medium rare with a side of mushrooms and spinach.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:23 PM
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47. I am a vegetarian and always eat MorningStar Farms products.
The sausage patties and links are delicious.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:44 PM
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50. I actually haven't tried those.
But I like the chicken flavored ones. Tried the vegan ones, not so good. For a lifelong hamburger eater turned vegetarian, MorningStar Farms has been a godsend.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:48 PM
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You sure about the "destruction to the soil"?
Greenpeace is highly concerned about farmers in the Amazon basin clearing the rainforest to expand their soybean fields. Also, soy strips the land of potassium, requiring heavy use of potash to replenish it.

OTOH, there are no diarrheal pies. So that is something.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:26 AM
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17. I'm sold. Where can I get some?

:shrug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:38 AM
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18. Just ask your friendly butcher about yak meat from animals that aren't crusted in feces.
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court jester Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:44 AM
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19. tofu beats yak on every point


the real test comes when humans can manufacture flesh free food from plant sources that tastes *identical* to flesh based foods. Will the killing continue?

Probably. Which is why Aliens should be afraid of Humans.

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:08 AM
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30. Yuck! I just don't like tofu
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 09:08 AM by Marrah_G
I'll stick with non factory farm meats. It costs a little more but we just eat less of it.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:07 PM
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40. from exotic plants from farms that may or may not use agricultural best practices.
Not knocking tofu but Pick your poison.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 02:20 PM
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54. 90% of soybeans in the US are GM.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 02:25 PM
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55. Good luck not eating something GM.
Do you eat bananas? Tomatoes?
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GSLevel9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:48 PM
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60. except for the whole "tastes like ASS" part. nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:46 AM
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22. We MUST eat cows precisely because they are such horrid, destructive creatures!
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:05 PM
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38. Is that Au Jus or diahreah?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:49 AM
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24. Beef prices are going to SKYROCKET come 2012
The Great Drought of 2011 - impacting over 16 states including Texas and Oklahoma -- has made it damn expensive to feed the cows. Consequently, lots and lots of ranchers have been forced to sell their herds, glutting the market for now. Soon, however, all those cows will be sold, slaughtered, grilled and gulped.

When that happens, probably early 2012, beef will be in far shorter supply, and prices will zoom upward...
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:55 AM
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25. No red meat here...
haven't eaten beef in 5 years.

Chicken, turkey, fish and seafood, and the occasional pork


Although I have to admit that the smell of grilled beef is intoxicating. But I don't eat it.

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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:05 AM
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29. I eat much less than I used to. But I still love it when I do have it.
I am an enthusiastic carnivore. :D
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:58 AM
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26. I love Buffalo- and its better for you then beef !
I make chili and stew with it :)
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:53 AM
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35. Do you get it via mail order or Fedex?
Or where do you purchase it? And how much is it per pound?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:56 AM
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36. In the midwest and west, you can get it in the supermarket.
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 11:56 AM by TwilightGardener
I don't know about other parts of the country. Our military commissary always has it--usually frozen ground bison, didn't see too much in the way of steaks.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:12 PM
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42. I actually get it at my local supermarkets in Eastern MA
3.99-4.99 a pound. It comes in 1 pound packages. "Great Range Brand All Natural Ground Bison"


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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:11 PM
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41. How about lamb?
Luscious, delicious lamb? Do sheep destroy the environment?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:14 PM
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43. I always wondered why it has to be lamb and not adult sheep
Does the meat get to tough? anyone know? It seems to me it would make more sense to harvest the wool a few times before slaughter. I mean if I was a farmer I would want to get the most out of any livestock.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:17 PM
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45. Mutton (adult) tastes much stronger than lamb and some don't like that.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:40 PM
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59. Thank you!!!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:24 PM
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48. Just eat some fucking plants.
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 12:28 PM by LeftyMom
Processing them through ruminant digestion and then eating part of the ruminant is beyond wasteful.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:30 PM
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49. whoa
lounge deja vu
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 02:16 PM
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53. Totally needs re-branding.
"Eat Yak" sounds more like a two-step How-To manual for bulemics than an enticement to enjoy food.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 06:44 PM
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62. Eat , Yak
Repeat
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:34 PM
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57. If you eat the shaved yak, he can't leave a present in your sink.
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chowder66 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:37 PM
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58. Yippee.... yak shaving day!!!! Where's my log? nt
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 05:59 PM
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61. Doesn't look too tasty.....
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Red Mountain Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 07:35 PM
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63. Where's the pilot?
Crunchy exterior, savory filling.

If you can, grow your own meat. If you can't, find somebody who can.

Make sure they do it right. It's far better for you if they do.

$6 a pound for everything is a good price to pay for real grass fed beef. Ground beef, steaks, roasts, etc......all one price.

Keeps the farmer happy. Good for you.



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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:11 AM
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66. Spoken like on who doesn't have a clue about farming
Yes, cattle ranching, especially modern cattle ranching, in the west is quite destructive. However in the midwest, if you are wanting to farm organically, be good stewards of the earth, you need cattle.

In the Midwest and other areas where the grass is green and plentiful, cattle serve a vital purpose, namely fertilizing the soil with that shit the author apparently didn't have the sense to get away from. Traditional, sustainable crop rotation, going back hundreds of years, generally saw a year of corn, a year of grain, a year of grazing, a year of lying fallow. That fertilization provided by cow manure is a vital cycle of traditional, organic farming.

To show just how beneficial this is, let me use my own modest acreage as an example. I have approximately ten acres of pasture. The people who owned the land before me had committed two basic sins of land management, overfarming the land, and then over grazing it with horses and mules. The land was becoming barren, growing little but weeds.

When I took over I made a deal with my neighbor who raises organic beef. Each summer, for the past seven years, he has brought over his herd, a couple of dozen head, and grazes them on my land for a few weeks. He gets free pasturage for his cattle, and in return, by fertilizing the land with their manure, that herd of cattle has revitalized that acreage. There is no erosion problems, the grass is lush and plentiful now, the soil is a nice shade of brown/black. The land, the soil has been restored by this simple process.

This is traditional, organic farming at its best. You rotate crops and pasturage, you let the land recover, you fertilize it with nature's best, manure. If done wisely, as used to be the norm, you can sustainably farm the land forever without destroying the land.

The trouble isn't with raising cattle, it is raising cattle in areas and in concentrations that simply aren't meant to be. Putting cattle on marginal land out west is indeed asking for disaster. Raising cattle in feedlot operations is going to cause destruction. But the same could be said about a lot of our current, modern agricultural practices, from the amount of chemicals we spray on the land to the emergence of monocrop agriculture and the abandonment of traditional crop rotation.

Even if we saw the sudden and widespread raising of yaks in this country, we would still be seeing the same problems we see with cattle, because the problems caused with cattle aren't caused by the animals themselves, but by the human management of those animals. Substituting in yaks would simply means that yak operations would be perverted and changed, again, with feedlots and with intensive grazing on marginal lands.

Rather than switching out the animal, it is time for humans to get back to the basics of farming, the tried and true methods that were prevalent in this country up until seventy years ago when the bain of chemicals changed the entire agricultural game. Chemicals allowed for many shortcuts by farmers, shortcuts and practices that we are paying for now. If we get back to the old school of agriculture, you will find that a lot our current problems would indeed disappear, because farmers would be working hand in hand with nature, rather than against her.

Finally, I suggest that the author learns a major lesson from his experience, don't walk behind cattle.
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