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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:16 AM
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Poll question: What are our demands at Occupy Wall Street ?
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 08:23 AM by Pharaoh
If this should grow and the occupation of DC next month is successful, what is it that we want? The protesters on Wall street don't seem to have a cohesive message. here's my idea, I vote for all of the above.



I would add more but 10 is all the poll allows. My point is the people need to all get on the same page if we are to truly able to change things.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:18 AM
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1. The only thing that matters is reestablishing a manufacturing base.
Without it we can't employ our people.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:21 AM
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2. And the only way that's gonna happen is if people stop shopping at Wal-Mart to save 13 cents and buy
American.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:28 AM
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3. Well we have to figure out how to do it one way or another.
Otherwise there will be a permanent underclass unemployed and demoralizingly dependent on the government.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:31 AM
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5. No, we will have a permanent underclass further oppressed by the government. n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:54 AM
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7. We know how to do it.
Tariffs.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:20 AM
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9. Not necessarily.
A manufacturing renaissance for America?
At an MIT forum, experts examine new ways to pursue a good old idea: making things.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/future-manufacture-0331.html

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:32 AM
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11. Your link supports my position.
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 09:34 AM by RUMMYisFROSTED
“The big problem is not that we can’t compete with China on low wages,” Berger added, but that the United States has “not developed enough kinds of manufacturing that could generate both high profits and also good jobs.”


Tariffs equalize wage/benefit inequality and potentially environmental costs. Make the cost of offshoring unattractive/prohibitive and most of the jobs will return.



eta: It's not that we stopped manufacturing, it's that we stopped manufacturing here.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:52 AM
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13. But tariffs are not the only solution.
We have to also increase innovation to bring the gap down. If we leave things as is, create a super expensive product that the American people can't afford and increase tariffs then we all lose.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 02:09 PM
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14. Of course they aren't.
It's the front line, though.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:30 AM
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4. I'm not sure we have demands at Occupy Wall Street. Perhaps the goal...
...is to create awareness among the American People so that they are motivated to participate in our elections. In any case, I believe that is happening through this forum and others.

I expect 2012 to have record turnouts, and we'll need them to overcome election fraud from the right.
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Eddie Haskell Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:37 AM
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6. WE WANT JUSTICE !
Not a single conviction for the crime of the century!

Hell, no one's even been indicted. By comparison, there were over 10,000 referrals and over 1000 convicted in the S&L crisis. What's the message? How about this?

End our two-tiered justice system and prosecute white collar crime.

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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:10 AM
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8. banks must lend out TARP $ and CEOS payback TARP-funded salary
That the taxpayers gave the banks money to lend out, which the banks then hoarded or otherwise used to pay their CEOs and minions millions in unearned salary and bonuses, is theft in plain sight. In a nation of laws, those mo-fos would be behind bars right now. Instead, they continue to informally advise the presidential's economic advisers. Go figure.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:25 AM
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10. None of the things on the poll
are things that Wall Street has controll over.

They are all changes that government would have to make.

Why are they protesting at Wall Street? It seems they should be protesting at the Capital, The White House and the Supreme Court.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:34 AM
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12. Who do you think owns the government?
That's why they're at Wall Street.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 08:15 PM
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15. Because
Wall Street "owns" the Government!

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