Before continuing down the road of extrajudicial killing, ask when will Bush & Cheney face justice?

[Octafish]

Whether it's war or cops-and-robbers, I have a problem with the state killing whoever it pleases. So, before we continue further on down the road of state-sanctioned murder, I think it's a good idea we ask: "When will George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney face justice on charges of lying America into two illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous wars?" Of course, these two also used their office to enrich their cronies inside and outside of government. They all should face charges, too.



My point is if we don't bring these two before justice, the tax-dodging, greedhead, warmonger class will know they'll never be held accountable and can get away with ANYTHING. Furthermore, no justice for Bush-n-Cheney also would mean there won't be any one in authority to stop War Inc. from deciding anyone who gets in their path is an enemy of the state. And, as we're all learning now, an enemy is someone who can be removed, without trial.

Continuing on the path we're on leads to something worse than anything we've seen in history. During the Third Reich in Germany, ancient IBM machines helped organize master lists of enemies, the secret state police rounded up those tabulated for the camps. There, cyanide-based Zyklon-B killed millions and the ovens burned the evidence. Today the state has much better technology for mass extermination.

[msongs]

1. lol if you are doing the sames things they did, it is unlikely you will prosecute them nt

[Octafish]

5. My first clue was when Mr. Holder decided to represent the guys with the machine guns in Colombia.

Guess things haven't changed like I hoped.

EDIT: Columbia. Heh.

[Rex]

2. We only assassinate people politically when they are not

friends of the BFEE...er today, friends of the BFEE now...maybe not so in 10 years time. We make them, we train them and then we kill them 20 years later. Certain people want terrorism to be about warfare so we can murder without probable cause. If it was a criminal activity, someone would have to be held accountable and that is where the BFEE comes in. They turned the idea of terrorism as being a crime (like the Oklahoma City bombing) into a global jihad against a certain group of individuals with darker skin and foreign tongues. Once that was complete, the BFEE then moved on to crushing all forms of liberal thought and any form of counter-thought about how and why 9/11 occurred in this country and then moved on to creating new authoritarian laws and organizations to hide behind (DHS). With this in place GWB and Cheney became completely immune to the laws since they are considered heroes of 9/11...as sick as that is.

We will never see any action taken because GWB and Cheney are the 'right kind of Americans' in the eyes of the paymasters.

[Octafish]

8. 'GWB and Cheney are the 'right kind of Americans' in the eyes of the paymasters.'

Thank you for putting it into words, Rex.

Without justice, the brightest future for the masses will resemble slavery.



So, We the People are told to STFU and look at the promise of a better tomorrow that never arrives.



Meanwhile, the reality becomes one where the members of the Paymaster class get paid, whether we're there or not.

[lunatica]

3. If Iraq sent agents to kill Cheney and Bush here I wouldn't shed a tear

They deserve that and worse because they are worse than the terrorists.

[Sal Minella]

7. Have we (BFEE, Ollie North) sold any drones to Iraq?

she said hopefully, not really wanting to know the answer.

I wonder if Cheney would look up if he heard a strange noise overhead.

[Octafish]

10. Don't know, but we are selling them F-16s.

Dealer lot must be overstocked. My manager will honor all reasonable offers. These planes have to move. You've got to see these planes. They are loaded! C'mon down! We're open Saturday...

[Octafish]

11. Bush and Cheney have hurt the USA more than any foreign enemy ever.

Not the commies. Not the fascists. Not the terrorists. It was Bush and Cheney who corrupted the government, emptied the Treasury for their cronies, perfected disaster capitalism, brought the nation to near-ruin, and destroyed the American Dream.

[ArcticFox]

4. They'll never face justice

That is, unless the U.S. suddenly finds itself in a position similar to Germany or Japan after WWII.

"Masters of War" is a song by Bob Dylan, written over the winter of 1962-63 and released on the album The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan in the spring of 1963. Dylan's lyrics are a protest against the Cold War arms build-up of the early 1960s. (Wikipedia).

Nothing has changed since then, except maybe for the worse.

[Octafish]

13. I have that album.

Here's a bit that wasn't known at the time:

Joint Chiefs and Allen Dulles suggested in writing that JFK launch a first-strike nuclear sneak attack against the USSR.

PS: Dylan's great. Leslie West of Mountain does a great cover on MOW with Ozzy Osborne..

[malaise]

6. Well said

Rec

[shanti]

9. they'll face justice

when they finally get their dirt nap, and not a moment sooner.

[Mnemosyne]

12. Not soon enough... n/t