No antiwar protests, no antiwar news, no antiwar music online...

[Jeffersons Ghost]

This is one of the most prolific times in history for writing antiwar music and there used to be lots of songs online: But now they're all gone. There's very little news about the wars on TV or in the newspapers. There is no news about the wars on radio. We rattle more sabers toward North Korea, as if we could afford another war, while we create terrorists by the score in Iraq, Afghanistan and many other places because of the never-ending occupation of those countries. These wars are exactly the reason our economy is in such a big mess. And that economic mess will create domestic terrorists in epic proportions.

[avaistheone1]

1. What wars?

[WinkyDink]

7. I suspect Paris HILTON is aware of the wars:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/comment/A-blinkered-view-from-the.2606807.jp



http://www.ttnworldwide.com/articles.aspx?ID=1511&artID=10676

[BB1]

16. That's not the Hilton, is it?

It looks like The Al Rasheed Hotel in Baghdad.

[WinkyDink]

23. I found it through Google images.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

47. Did you guys read this doozy?

The lovable star of The Green Hornet, Seth Rogen, revealed to MTV that his character Britt Reid, the hotel room trashing son of a Los Angeles media mogul who becomes the Green Hornet superhero, was inspired by Paris Hilton and her heiress antics. "We kind of based him off a male Paris Hilton, as embarrassing as that is to say," Rogen said. "That is what we looked at — those people who are the sons or daughters of people who have accomplished great things.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0385296/news

[zeemike]

2. It is one of the benefits of owning the infrastructure of a culture.

You can be gate keeper for what they get to see and hear.

[Raster]

91. Thank you!

Own the messenger, control the message!

[L0oniX]

3. huh?

[snappyturtle]

4. Yep. TPTB don't want us to think about war....hence, no news

coverage.

Creating more terrorists is profitable in so many ways not only for prolonging war but for the 'security' industry.

As far as protest goes, I believe so many are struggling that there's just nothing left at the end of the day or pay period, if lucky enough to have a job, to organize and participate. Personally, I think it's futile. There's got to be a better way.

[ThirdChoice]

5. JTMP and Op-Critical Make Anti-War Music Video - JTMP.ORG

Remake of Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) song, "Another Brick in the Wall" with new lyrics and a fresh sound.
Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oYpWTrYsDs

http://www.op-critical.com - The #1 protest music band in America, Op-Critical, is back with a take on the Roger Waters classic "Another Brick in the Wall" medley. This version is called "Another Name on the Wall" and features awesome animation effects from the very artistic mind of Matt Brown, and collaborates with Gillian Brown and Sophia Fraser for some great artistic effects and style that is very original.

This is a song against wars, and the propaganda and monuments that people use to promote and start wars.

Special guests: The Harmonic Angels Childrens Choir
(See more of them on our video "Happy Springtime")

Sound Engineer: Dave Hanbury
House of Jam Studios

Mastering by: Edward Vinatea
New York

Special thanks to Roger Waters.

[Imajika]

6. We have a Democratic president now..

..and as the anti-war movement tends to be on the left, they will mostly just shut and support Obama (through inaction) because they are afraid of weakening him and allowing a conservative to win the White House in the next presidential election.

The anti-war movement will have a very hard time gaining a foothold because many, perhaps most, of those who would most likely lead such a charge against the wars so strongly identify with the Democratic party instead of just a peace movement. The amusing thing is, the public is probably more receptive than ever to a strong anti-war stand against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - but due to partisan political calculations there is likely to be no vocal anti-war push from the left. As a people, we are more cynical and in many ways more politically savvy then ever.

In an odd way, and for the advancement of some causes and issues, it can sometimes be better to be in the opposition.

[WinkyDink]

8. "Hey, hey, LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?" Yes, protestors stay home when it's a Democratic

President.

[Name removed]

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[CherokeeDem]

18. I'll concede the draft issue....

but that wasn't the only motivation for protesting. Most of the kids protesting were in college and could get deferments...they weren't the bulk of those who served. The war, draft or not, was the center of the protest.

But you are right, the climate of today has changed. Today's climate is selfish, self-serving, self-directed, and becoming increasingly isolated. "Hey, a soldier died, well, he volunteered." Is that the reaction we will accept from our fellow citizens. If it is, we aren't any better than they are.

[Imajika]

13. Yes, that was then and this is now...

The left learned a lesson from that time.

LBJ became damaged goods, largely because of the anti-war protests, and was forced not to run again in 1968 - this made it much easier for the Republican Richard Nixon to win the presidency. The calculation is simple, strife within the Democratic Party that damages President Obama could lead to a teabagger President in 2012. Increasingly, political partisans are much more wed to party than ideas.

[bobbolink]

21. that reasoning would mean that we are fighting the *last* war.

The fact is, this president is most likely to LOSE because he continues the wars, AND refuses to improve the poverty situation.

[AndyTiedye]

40. How Can Obama Improve the Poverty Situation With the Repigs Blocking Everything?

[bobbolink]

73. By being an actual LEADER.

What I have learned here at DU the last two years is that there is a very sharp divide here, and I am no longer interested in getting into useless wars of words. The fact is, people are suffering and dying from poverty in this country, and until ALL of us take that as a serious issue and push with all our might, and our leaders follow us on it, Nothing. Will. Change.

I have come to the conclusion that for most of the people who call themselves "progressives", that suffering and death just doesn't matter.

So, save the big arguments.

This is bigger than that.

[dionysus]

94. so you have no solution, just a vague notion of "leading"...

gotcha.

[JackRiddler]

30. Nonsense. RFK's assassination had more to do with Nixon's election than LBJ's resignation.

[AndyTiedye]

38. Possibly true but Irrelevant

If RFK had lived, he would have beaten LBJ in the primary and gone on to win the general election.

There is no Democrat who could possibly beat Obama in a primary, and even a serious primary challenge
to Obama would guarantee the election of a teabagger Repiglickin next year.

The teabaggers want more war, not less.

[JackRiddler]

41. Please learn some history before you make claims about relevance, okay?

LBJ dropped out of the 1968 primaries in February, after almost losing New Hampshire to McCarthy. RFK only entered after that. RFK won the CA primary and enough delegates for the nomination on June 4. He was shot after his victory speech.

Your making wrong statements about 1968 does not inspire confidence in anything you have to say about 2011.

[AndyTiedye]

50. Well LBJ Didn't Resign Either

The point is that there is no RFK or anyone like him today.

The only Democrat who has any chance of winning the Presidential election next year is Obama.

[JackRiddler]

69. AndyTiedye, just accept the correction on the historical facts gracefully and move on.

And as for Obama and 2012, you're not going to be impressing me or any other non-followers with pronouncements of inevitability. We live in fast-changing and quite interesting times.

[AndyTiedye]

74. Move On Where?

We both had some bloopers in this discussion.
I got the sequence of events in the primaries wrong and you said LBJ resigned.

Where are you trying to go with this?

If the assassination of RFK was the deciding factor in the election, not LBJ dropping
out of the race, that implies that LBJ would have lost if he had stayed in.
That would tend to support the "damaged goods" argument upthread.

It sounds like you want to run Obama out of office like we did LBJ, and just hope for the best.

Things could change, but I'd be curious how you think they are going to change
to somehow put some genuinely anti-war candidate in office. I cannot even imagine
a scenario in which this could occur.

[JackRiddler]

86. Oh never mind.

LBJ resigned from the primaries and the election, yes. Not from office on the spot, no. You're complaining about my word usage, whereas you had the facts dreadfully and obviously wrong.

[Gaedel]

64. Learned a lesson with George McGovern in 1972 nt

[JackRiddler]

87. Which was what? Fascists always win, so don't bother?

[bettyellen]

9. there's no draft and so the youth of america is much less motivated

[Paladin]

17. "Much Less Motivated"? Try "Not Motivated At All"

Once the draft was eliminated, the bottom fell out of the Viet Nam-era anti-war movement in this country---almost overnight, it seemed.

Wants lots of way-cool street demonstrations and fight-the-power songs? Put the draft back in place. It's as simple as that.....

[bettyellen]

22. i favor the draft because I think it's the only way citizen will again feel responsible

and aware of what we are doing overseas. even though the corps wouldn;t like it, we woldn;t let them hide the news, and images of war anymore.

[AndyTiedye]

33. We'd Protest, but They'd Keep It Out of the News

You seem to think we have some influence over the corporations that own our media. We don't.

[bettyellen]

37. i think there's be much more realization of this, then outrage that it is not covered

and i think it would put a huge dent in big media and alternate press would emerge and become a lot more popular.
just a theory.

[AndyTiedye]

43. The Media is Deaf to Our Outrage

Has been for 30 years now.

It wasn't like that in the '60s.

The war was news and they reported it.
The protests were news and they reported them extensively.

Not any more.

[bettyellen]

44. there is no outrage compared to the sixties, not even close.

[AndyTiedye]

53. There is No News

War reporting nowadays is practically nonexistent.

[bettyellen]

70. um, i said I was aware there is very little good reporting in America, and few care about it

i just differ in the opinion that this could all change if a wider varety of americans were making a sacrafice. right now it's mostly poorer kids being made into cannon fodder. i think if it extended to a wider group of Americand, there would be a media who would report it to them. right now the demographic doesn;t interest a lot of people.

[Hannah Bell]

84. i think in fact there's more. it's just not covered.

[bettyellen]

89. i don't know about that, afghanistan had very wide support. i don't know many people- even those

against the war, that discuss it at all. it doesn;t seem to concern people even half as much as the economy does.
young people- i don;t think they even have a clue what war is, let lalone fear it the way they did 40 years ago. it's been kind of like a chicken or the egg situation though, less people think about it because they don't have to.

[Hannah Bell]

90. the biggest anti-war protests in us history occurred in the run-up to the iraq war.

it was only after 911 that sentiment changed, & as time has gone on anti-war sentiment has turned back to that baseline.

911 was the main factor making people supportive of the wars.

currently it's more "out of sight, out of mind" than any other factor.

there is no daily reminder we're even *in* a war.

[bettyellen]

92. it;s easy for it to be out of sight out of mind, when it;s never gong to be your friends or family

the younger generation is much less politically active, and their number one issue is the economy. My thinking is that the draft would certainly change that. The biggest difference right now is that young america is awol. in the sixties people talked frequently about thw war in a very personal way- they knew people who were effected, everyone did. They were afraid they were next.
No need ot restate that you believe it;s merely the media. restating it doesn;t make it more persuasive.

[rhett o rick]

58. Of course they are if "our" outrage is limited to blogs and email. nm

[AndyTiedye]

61. They Can Ignore Large Protests Too

We did take to the streets in the run-up to the Iraq war.

The media either minimized the protests or didn't report them at all.

[bettyellen]

71. i know, i was there, both big ones. and there's been very little since.

[AndyTiedye]

75. Everyone Got Pretty Discouraged

How long can you keep something like that up when it isn't working at all?

[coalition_unwilling]

78. "Isn't working at all?" -- I have to take issue with that language. I

attended big protests in Los Angeles prior to the beginnings of the wars in Afghanistan (late 2001) and in Iraq (late 2002- early 03). After the wars began, I continued to attend the big protests but also came to realize that those protests mostly featured people like myself preaching to the already converted. That should not be de-valued, as it is important that people realize they are not alone in their feelings of disquiet and their class consciousness as it relates to imperialism. But it seemed to me that the anti-war movement needed to reach out beyond its circle of already convinced to the broader Los angeles audience.

Accordingly, in late 2003, I began attending local weekly peace vigils in Westwood and Mar Vista and vigilling by myself once weekly also in Palms. So I was there on the ground to watch opinion turn decidedly against Bush and the Republicans and against the war. It was visceral and one could almost detect opinion changing from one week to the next.

Now it is true that the politicians in Washington have not caught up to public opinion yet. And it may be that they never will, since there seem so few consequences politically for voting to continue funding the wars even when a huge majority of your constituents oppose them. (Thinking of my former rep Jane Harmon's war whoredom and my senator Dianne Feinstein's war whoredom.) But make no mistake. The anti-war movement almost single-handedly succeeded in turning American opinion decidedly against the wars, even when the corporate whore media still solidly supported it.

On edit: For some reason, not showing up in my list of posts in 'My DU'. Think there may be a glitch in posting. Will try to respond if I see a response.

[rhett o rick]

82. It hasnt worked.

"The anti-war movement almost single-handedly succeeded in turning American opinion decidedly against the wars, even when the corporate whore media still solidly supported it." And yet nothing has happened.

[bobbolink]

95. Your first paragraph is exactly correct, and the root of the problem.

During Vietnam, we spoke to the choir a lot, but we also reached out.

Teach-ins come to mind.

We haven't come together and tried to figure out good ways to deal with the issue in the climate of TODAY. We cling to the methods of the 60s (well, just one of the methods), and let it go at that.

There is much more to be done, and we are smart enough people to figure out what that is.

But it involves coming together and thinking in new ways, and we are too wedded to our Rugged Individualism.

[AndyTiedye]

62. Women Were Always Exempt from the Draft

I assume from your handle that you are female. You would never have been drafted because they only drafted men!

[bettyellen]

88. and the last one ended 40 years ago, i don't believe it has to or should be that way

i'm as against the war as you are, trust me. i think the draft would be a way of ending them, and greatly reducing support for new ones is all.

[janet118]

29. Most of the '60s protesters had skin in the game . . .

not so much now.

And because it's an all-volunteer army, you don't have the internal havoc that played out inside the military during the Vietnam War.

[bobbolink]

20. That is one big part of it.

The other is, as the poster above said, we have a Dem president, and we have been castigated royally for rocking the boat.

Let 'em figure out what to do with their precious leaking boat.

[AndyTiedye]

32. If there Was a Draft, We Would also be at war with (at least) Iran

The only thing that stopped Bush/Cheney from invading Iran was a lack of cannon fodder.

[bettyellen]

39. i doubt that, but feel free to try and back it up.

[CherokeeDem]

14. Perhaps you were not around during the Viet Nam war....

I was...the protesters were liberals...we took up the challenge to protest the war. We should be doing it today. I do not understand why there are not peaceful protesters outside the White House and the Capitol building daily. Yet, we remain silent as three more of our soldiers died yesterday.

I had hoped that the 20 and 30-somethings would be taking up the cause. Maybe they are still trying to determine how to protest from their facebook page. That isn't going to work.

[jwirr]

26. I think they are also trying to survive in this economy. I do not know

what part this plays in it but my 20-30 something family members are worrying about their own families being homeless and going to school while working in order to get anywhere in this economy. We are in different times. I suspect most of the colleges today would kick their students out if they
dared to demonstrate like we did in the good old days.

[sad sally]

34. The Jan 17th issue of Time magazine

with black and white photos by James Nachtwey brought back the memories of sitting on the floor in front of the tv, crying, watching the horror of Vietnam. Look closely at the pain and sorrow - and fear.

Read Joe Klein's article Finishing the Job in Afghanistan. The questions he poses need answers. When he asked several senior military, diplomatic and White House officials if they really needed to be providing cold storage facilities, couldn't help remembering when plane loads of refrigerators were dropped on villages in Vietnam - no electricity was available! Same situation in Kandadar province - no electrical power, but we're building cold storage facilities?

How many more years can the US continue to spend $100 billion; how many more soldiers can loose their legs, arms, eyes and maybe their minds; how many more innocent Afghanistan people must have their homes (no matter how primitive they seem to us) and their children be ravaged by war? How long...forever?

[AndyTiedye]

42. That is a Very Legitimate Fear

The Democratic party is far weaker now than it was in the '60s, a mere shadow of its former self.
Every election lost makes the party weaker still. We cannot afford to lose next year!

[rhett o rick]

85. When the Republicans started the wars the left protested. But now that Obama is continuing the Bush

wars, the left sees the futility. Both sides want war. Protesting is worthless.

[Capitalocracy]

10. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yN-jJLj0k

[Rex]

11. M$M = mission finally accomplished.

CNN created 24/7 cable news by walking up to marines on the beaches in Iraq (GWI) and asking them questions like, 'are you guys invading Iraq?'. For some strange reason, the marines didn't shoot them. Everything has been downhill since then.

[GReedDiamond]

15. Antiwar music...over at NeilYoung.com...

http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/lwwsongspage.html

3365 (and counting), songs.

My band is at #12 this last week.

[walldude]

27. Bookmarked.. that is fucking awesome

thanks for the link... And thanks to Neil for keeping up the fight..

[dana_b]

48. LOVE Neil!

:thumbsup:

[ThirdChoice]

67. We've got two songs on that site!

The Justice Through Music Project and Op-Critical have been pumping out anti-war music videos for the past 6 years! We have 2 on the Neil Young site, "Fear" and "Who's to Blame?", and we just released a cover version of Roger Waters' "Another Brick in the Wall", and changing the lyrics to "Another Name on the Wall", alluding to the names on the Vietnam Memorial. Check it out!

Another Name on the Wall:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oYpWTrYsDs

[GReedDiamond]

80. very nice!

KnR!

[Skidmore]

19. There is nothing at all prolific about antiwar protesting for these wars.

It is not happening. If you want protesting to be visible, you have to get out in the streets and do it in an organized fashion. You have to let people know your concerns and that you are there. That was what we did in the 60s. We were there in large numbers. Buildings were occupied and marches occurred. People had something to lose then besides connectivity. I see today's culture as largely passive. Very few people are making the real sacrifice of life and limb in these wars. Here, the vast unwashed are more concerned with the antics of the Grifter or Snooky rather than track the news.

[bobbolink]

25. Perhaps most important were the teach-ins.

Maybe they would be important today.

[w8liftinglady]

51. when we protested the Bush Library opening,.. it was a blip on the screen

A non-issue.. a few far-left loonies.
that is the reality.

[AndyTiedye]

60. It Still Won't be Visible

because it won't be on the news.

They won't see you on the streets because they're on the freeway or in the malls.

The freeway has traffic going 70 mph so they won't see you until they're about to run over you.

The mall is private property. You might be able to protest there for a few minutes before
the mall security throws you out or has you arrested. Even if you could stay,
only a few of customers of one mall will ever see you.

[Bragi]

24. Americans are docile and lack cohesiveness for protests

America is now made up of isolated individuals who are docile and passive about everything other than buying crap they don't need.

There is now insufficient social cohesion for organized protests of any consequence.

In the past year, the largest public demonstration was a massive irony festival called by two comedians. That sums up the situation.

[Capitalocracy]

28. If we got MSM coverage

I'm sure we could rustle up more protesters than they have at some of these Tea Party rallies that made international news with like 12 people. A Tea Party rally of less than 100 people gets more coverage, by far, than an anti-war protest with thousands, which may receive zero coverage in the MSM.

[Swamp Rat]

31. k&r.... as you posted this, another family was likely obliterated in Afghanistan.

and probably one or two or three or four or five or six or seven in Iraq.

[lonestarnot]

35. We are pathetic aren't we.

[w8liftinglady]

36. some insight,perhaps

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/01/03/peace-movement/
PBS: Will there be a Peace Movement in 2011?
January 3, 2011 posted by Robert L. Hanafin · 3 Comments


National Geographic - Peace: The Biography of a Symbol turned 50
I was researching material to make a decent first article with a look ahead to 2011, when I was inspired by listening to a PBS program Sunday morning to write a story about mainstream, and now public media, promoting an image of there not being more of a Peace Movement.

The Peace sign has now turned 50, but are the stars aligned in 2011 to ignite a Peace Movement?

I had another article set aside for just this moment that I will submit separately in my next post. These will be the words and views of a retired Army Major General, but the timing for his words is perfect. He presents his views for why there isn’t more of a Peace Movement though that may not have been his original intent. What he says in his article, Ideals Versus Interests, is not only THE TRUTH, but what mainstream media, even public media like PBS is missing (maybe intentional, maybe unwittingly).

My wife and I watched the PBS program Religion and Ethics Newsweekly this morning. At the close of the program the panelists were asked this question by the host looking ahead to 2011,

“I have been wondering with respect to Iraq and now Afghanistan why there was no peace movement—not more of a peace movement. Do you think with Afghanistan, as we begin to come out of there, that there will be such a thing?.”

The panelist from the Brookings Institute came up with a very safe and diplomatic response sounding more like a political talking point than a knowledgeable answer. However, he did raise valid points that still deserve some thinking about and debate.

His response to the question was, “I think going into Afghanistan there was very broad support when we started because many people, except for pacifists and a few others who have legitimate reasons for opposing all wars, most people thought this was kind of a just war response, so you didn’t have a big opposition.”

He sounded somewhat hesitant in his response as if intended to divert from the real answer(s), or appeared to lack knowledge and showed plain ignorance of the real answers.

There is no debate in my mind that there IS NOT a Peace Movement on the scale of the anti-Vietnam War movement, but this PBS program actually did and end run around the real reasons that there is not more of a Peace Movement.

more at site

[Odin2005]

45. Because a lot of people were only "anti-war" as long as it was a Republican in charge.

Once a Dem became president most of the "anti-war" people became rabid supporters of it.

it is pure partisanship in it's worse sense, all about who is in charge no matter what the policy is.

[AndyTiedye]

54. We Didn't All Start Liking the War When Obama Was Elected

I don't think "most" of us did, either.

Obama said he was going to end it. We're still waiting for that.
The other party wants more war. So do some of our RINOs.

Anti-war got no place to go.

[w8liftinglady]

55. I belonged to Veterans for peace BEFORE and AFTER his election.

Veteran care has increased astronomically,but very little in the way of decrease in war.
Maybe private contractors keep us from admitting we are still in Iraq as aggressively as before...just for a bigger chunk of money

[dana_b]

46. not entirely true. Check this out:

www.axisofjustice.net
They have a lot of info on musicians that are putting out new antiwar messages/music.

Outernational - http://axisofjustice.net/new-anti-war-music-video-by-activist-rockers-outernational/

Serj Tankian - http://axisofjustice.net/borders-are-by-serj-tankian-2/

Anti Flag - http://axisofjustice.net/anti-flag/

Ani DiFranco - http://axisofjustice.net/ani-difranco/

Sleater Kinney - http://axisofjustice.net/sleater-kinney/

Zack De la Rocha - http://axisofjustice.net/zack-de-la-rocha-dj-shadow/

The Nightwatchman - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRIMgNvYx4g

There actually is a lot of anti war music out there - it just does not get played on mainstream sites.

[w8liftinglady]

49. Don't laugh... James Blunt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blunt
1999, he served as an armoured reconnaissance officer in the NATO deployment in Kosovo. Initially assigned to reconnaissance of the Macedonia-Yugoslavia border, Blunt and his unit worked ahead of the front lines directing forces and targeting Serb positions for the NATO bombing campaign. His unit was given the assignment of securing the Pristina International Airport in advance of the 30,000-strong peacekeeping force; the Russian army had moved in and taken control of the airport before his unit's arrival. According to Blunt's own account of the incident he refused to follow orders from NATO command to attack the Russians.<12> There were less intense moments during Blunt's Kosovo assignment, however. Blunt had brought along his guitar, strapped to the outside of his tank. At some places, the peacekeepers would share a meal with hospitable locals, and Blunt would perform. It was while on duty there that he wrote the song "No Bravery".<13> The Scottish television sit-com that is broadcast on BBC Two Scotland and repeated on BBC One, "Gary: Tank Commander", is loosely based on Blunts exploits while serving in the British Army.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFr8mc9rj4

[dana_b]

63. not laughing..

applauding. :applause:

[w8liftinglady]

65. I remember when Serj Tankin played with Ozzy here

Standing ovation when he sang "Empty Walls"
it really meant something

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtUxPg9jRLM

[dana_b]

66. that's a great song n/t

[Kaleva]

52. Could be people have gone to the internet to protest instead of the streets.

[tkmorris]

56. I have always been partial to this song...

Your post made me think of it.

http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/21276099 (it's safe, trust me. That's just the first place I could find it.)

[PassingFair]

57. War IS the economy.

Troops coming home are going right onto
the unemployment rolls.

War and the supply of war machines keeps
the south from the virtual depression that
the rust belt currently suffers.

[rhett o rick]

59. Peaceful protests are worthless. You follow a "approved" route with a police escort .

No media attention. Many of the "protesters" are 50 - 60 wearing their LL Bean and smilingly drinking their Starbucks. And at the end of the parade they get in their SUV's and drive to their comfortable homes in the burgs.

[Odin2005]

72. The only protests that do anything are big, spontaneous, and unauthorized.

Planned protests are worthless.

[Atticus]

68. Another example of what I was talking about. SEE: (link)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x213444

[mia]

76. "The time comes when silence is betrayal."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Ve5GoHFDg

[annm4peace]

77. Corp Media might not show Anti War News.. Music Video etc. But we haven't stopped.

Corp Media is very small.

There are actions happening constantly. CONSTANTLY. It has been 10 freaking years. Some antiwar activists are headed to grand jury in a week.
Please do not say there are no protests lest you discredit them and the rest of us.

/17/11 Washington, D.C., and Quantico, Va. Protest of FBI Raids and Bradley Manning Imprisonment
http://www.defendingdissent.org/action/Events.htm
1/18/11 Washington, D.C. Panel with Rep. Rush Holt, Emily Berman from the Brennan Center for Justice, Shahid Buttar of BORDC, FBI General Counsel Valerie Caproni,4-6pm in the Gold Room of the Canon House Office Building.

1/18/11 Washington, D.C., David Swanson
http://davidswanson.org/content/war-lie-event-january-18-busboys-and-poets-dc

1/19/11 Everywhere, Brown Bag Vigils
http://pdamerica.org/articles/misc/2009-11-13-12-49-50-misc.php

1/21/11 Washington, D.C., One Year of Citizens United
http://www.movementforthepeople.org

1/25/11 Everywhere, Protest FBI Raids
http://www.stopfbi.net

1/27/11 Washington, D.C., Bill of Rights Day
http://www.bordc.org
2/1/11 Charlottesville, Va., The Table of Compassion
http://www.charlottesvillepeace.org/node/2322

2/7/11 London, UK, Rally in Support of Wikileaks

3/12/11 London, UK, Conference on Confronting Anti-Muslim Hatred

3/17/11 Charlottesville, Va., Bruce Fein and David Swanson
http://davidswanson.org/content/david-swanson-and-bruce-fein-discuss-imperial-presidency-virginia-festival-book

3/19/11 Washington, D.C., Eight Years of Shock and Awe
http://www.answercoalition.org/national/index.html

4/1/11 Washington, D.C., Power Shift
http://energyactioncoalition.org

4/8/11 Washington, D.C., Disarmageddon
http://warisacrime.org/disarmageddon

4/8/11 Washington, D.C., Education and Strategy Conference on US Militarism
http://www.lasolidarity.org

4/9/11 New York City and San Francisco, Peac e Demonstrations
http://www.nationalpeaceconference.org
4/12/11 Global Day of Action on Military Spending
http://demilitarize.org

5/1/11 May Day

6/11/11 London, UK, Conference on Afghanistan and the War of Terror
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[w8liftinglady]

79. thank you for the links! There IS hope

we just have to stay committed...

[Rochester]

81. We can still make do with the old antiwar music..

like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo
It has never been truer!

[mrdmk]

83. Saturday, March 19, 2011: Resist the War Machine! 8th anniversary of the invasion of Iraq

Scores of organizations coming together for worldwide protests

March 19 is the 8th anniversary of the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Iraq today remains occupied by 50,000 U.S. soldiers and tens of thousands of foreign mercenaries.

The war in Afghanistan is raging. The U.S. is invading and bombing Pakistan. The U.S. is financing endless atrocities against the people of Palestine, relentlessly threatening Iran and bringing Korea to the brink of a new war.

While the United States will spend $1 trillion for war, occupation and weapons in 2011, 30 million people in the United States remain unemployed or severely underemployed, and cuts in education, housing and health care are imposing a huge toll on the people.

Actions of civil resistance are spreading.

On Dec. 16, 2010, a veterans-led civil resistance at the White House played an important role in bringing the anti-war movement from protest to resistance. Enduring hours of heavy snow, 131 veterans and other anti-war activists lined the White House fence and were arrested. Some of those arrested will be going to trial, which will be scheduled soon in Washington, D.C.

In Los Angeles, the March 19 rally and march will gather at 12 noon at Hollywood and Vine.

link: http://www.answercoalition.org/national/news/march-19-2010-announcement.html

[Blue Owl]

93. Just a bunch of glossy propaganda is all I'm seeing

the pretty, pretty propaganda...