THESE are the guys we want in power? Warning: GRAPHIC

[B2G]

And disturbing. My god.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20124758-503543/globalpost-qaddafi-apparently-sodomized-after-capture/

[DFab420]

1. Hurray for sensationalism!!! Also since you are relativly new here some advice..

Please don't post blind links.

[B2G]

3. I didn't post anything but the link because it's graphic

Would you like for me to insert the text? Would that make it all better?

[gkhouston]

21. Including a brief description of what's at the link will probably

increase the number of people who open it.

[Lost-in-FL]

2. Explain "we".

:shrug:

[B2G]

6. The US government, NATO, some here...take you pick. n/t

[AngkorWot]

4. Is that guy running for office?

[Schema Thing]

5. That's kind of like saying America wants Lynndie England as it's leader.

[EFerrari]

26. The brutality of these people is a matter of public record.

It's not just a few bad apples but the way they do things. Torturing prisoners, raping black women, pulling people off the street and disappearing them. Poor Libya.

[Kennah]

7. I found it rather to difficult to make out much of ANYTHING from the video

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. Here. See these stills. Clearly being stabbed in the ass:

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/111024/gaddafi-sodomized-video-gaddafi-sodomy

[Botany]

8. This is the way the life of a brutal dictator who has killed,

.... tortured, bombed, and robbed his people ends. Qaddafi could have fled w/ some of his money and his
female body guards months ago but he chose to stay and make the Libyans suffer and in the end he didn't
kill himself or fight back as they were closing in on him so that made this horrific scene a sure thing.

We have no way of knowing what those fighters had seen and heard because of what Qaddifi did to their families, friends,
and fellow fighters ..... brutal yes but Qaddafi got what was coming to him. Nicolae Ceauşescu and Benito Mussolini both
suffered similar fates.

[polly7]

11. What did the migrants do to them?

Edit to add: Also GRAPHIC

The following post will discuss a disturbing trend among Libya's rebel fighters, revealed in videos they themselves recorded and shared on social media sites, especially Youtube and Facebook. These have persisted despite a general ban on violent and gory images, perhaps for the posters' stated aims of supporting the rebel cause and freedom. Consider the inset screen capture from a video of at least four dead government soldiers being driven around Misrata, chased and insulted by the crowd.

Almost universally, the victims of these crimes are called "mercenaries," usually (black) African, though it now seems that probably none of them were. Their very presence on videos labeled as that, however, went far towards convincing the world when it mattered most.

For moths these have remained, some in several postings watched thousands of times each. But more and more people started noticing that these showed grossly inhumane atrocities, and said so.

http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/04/rebel-atrocity-videos.html

[Botany]

14. I don't understand all things Libyan but I do know that ...

..... Col. Qaddafi hired many mercenary troops from different African nations and they wound up on the losing
side in a brutal civil war.


For what it is worth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Libyan_civil_war#Mercenaries

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[polly7]

22. I hope these are alright.

I'm very sorry, I had no idea the link I posted wasn't allowed.

http://globalciviliansforpeace.com/tag/black-migrant-workers/

Amnesty International crisis researcher Donatella Rovera on the issue of ‘African Mercenaries’;

‘’We examined this issue in depth and found no evidence. The rebels spread these rumours everywhere, which had terrible consequences for African guest workers: there was a systematic hunt for migrants, some were lynched and many arrested. Since then, even the rebels have admitted there were no mercenaries, almost all have been released and have returned to their countries of origin, as the investigations into them revealed nothing.”

Since the start of the conflict the BBC and Al Jazeera (British and Qatari state television) have been at the forefront of peddling the vicious ‘African mercenary’ propaganda despite the likes of Amnesty International repeatedly dismissing these baseless allegations. The BBC have only recently acknowledged and started to cover the racist persecution these people face in Libya despite the crimes being evident throughout the conflict. However the reporting is always deceptively interwoven with the myth of ‘African mercenaries’ in an attempt to justify and give context to the widespread heinous crimes committed by the rebels against black Libyans and migrant workers.


18 September 2011 Last updated at 12:55 ET

Libya conflict: Black African migrants caught in backlash

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14965062

Hundreds of African migrant workers in Libya have been imprisoned by fighters allied to the new interim authorities, accused of being mercenaries for Col Muammar Gaddafi, and there are claims that homes have been looted, and women and girls beaten and raped, as the BBC's Ian Pannell reports.

[KansDem]

10. So you have one whack-job doing a whack-job on another whack-job...

He doesn't represent the new government does he?

That's like saying this guy...

...represents the average American soldier in Iraq.

They're both sick fucks...

[trumad]

13. perfect post

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Well be prepared for the it's ok, it's kadaffi crowd

I don't think they truly understand the needs to respect the rights of monsters. So they will become the new monster.

Oh and let me add this...just because he was a presumtive war criminal don't make this less of one...

[Chih]

15. Libya to adopt Sharia law, ends public showing of Gaddafi's body.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Libya-to-adopt-Sharia-law-ends-public-showing-of-Gaddafis-body/articleshow/10478689.cms

It's not what we wanted, it's what the world's bureaucrats wanted.

[alfredo]

17. There's decades of pent up rage in the people. Though I don't

approve of violence, I can understand that emotions can get the better of people.

[killbotfactory]

18. It would have been far more preferable to just let Gaddafi slaughter the protesters

It's easier to watch atrocities being committed against people you aren't familiar with.

[polly7]

19. There's also other videos of it out, taken apparently by rebels who

couldn't wait to post them around. Even more brutal. I've never been so damned disgusted in all my life, I don't care WHO he was.

[mainer]

20. They don't seem ashamed to post them. Glorify them, in fact.

which tells us something about their attitude toward this act.

[tabatha]

23. Mandela should never have run South Africa - because there were 400 of these.

[mainer]

24. Odd. Mandela was a big Khaddafi sympathiser.

I guess Mandela is to be despised, too?

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71656?oid=222537&sn=Detail

[tabatha]

25. I was being sarcastic.

Mandela was grateful to Gaddafi for supporting the ANC. However, I doubt he would have approved what Gaddafi did in the uprising. Desmond Tutu did not. I believe thay are friends.

African Politicians Must Be Accountable - Tutu
NEWS — Africa: Gaddafi Forces 'Bring Shame on Africa,' Says Tutu

“If Africa’s leaders held their peers to account there would be no need for the people of Libya to suffer human rights violations,” said founder of the Desmond Tutu Peace Centre, Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu. “And there would be no need for United Nations sanctioned military interventions in Libya.

“Instead, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has for more than 40 years honed his skills in the art of resource management to win friends and influence people. And as a result, Africa seems powerless to stop him.

“The scenes of brutality being meted out with sophisticated weaponry by Libyan security forces against their own civilian population make God weep. With every blow they strike, each human rights abuse they perpetrate, they bring shame on Africa,” Archbishop Tutu said.

“As South Africans, we are acutely conscious of the value of human rights and democracy. We prosecuted a noble struggle against a morally corrupt and brutal apartheid regime, emerging as an example to the world in the fields of peaceful settlement, peacekeeping and reconciliation.

“The South African government took the moral position last week of supporting United Nations Resolution 1973 on Libya. Now, it should go a step further and urgently and unequivocally condemn the violence being perpetrated against Libyans.

“May events in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya herald a new dawn for African politics in which leaders are not only accountable to their people but also answerable to their peers,” Archbishop Tutu said.

Unfortunately, having lived in a country where people were brutalized, those people are often brutal in return. I know from personal experience with my family and friends who have been shot, some killed, in South Africa. That does not mean that South Africa should not have gotten rid of Apartheid.

(Oh and btw, Mandela and Tutu are my heroes. Jalil is a hero to me. And one of the people I know who was shot and paralyzed, eventually worked in one of Mandela's offices. That person and all others who were brutalized have forgiven and moved on. The difference is if the atrocities are sanctioned by the rulers - Gaddafi sanctioned atrocities, the TNC wanted Gaddafi alive.)