Joan Rivers: Palin is "an amazing woman" and "represents everything a strong woman should be."

[Renew Deal]

Here's the video:

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=6fa09556-95e0-42ad-ae4b-03d73ba91361&isShareURL=true

[seabeyond]

1. deleted. listening to video, i see you have a bullshit subject line. nt

[hlthe2b]

2. Even though it was Rivers.... I so was hoping there was a...

punch line! :eyes:

[Renew Deal]

9. Well...

Did you listen to the entire joke? ;)

[hlthe2b]

18. No... can't listen at work...

I guess you are hinting that there is more to the story. I'll withhold judgment then (but not on her plastic surgery--geepers!)

[solara]

19. Rivers IS the punch line.

And we no longer have to subject ourselves to the nasty invective that passes for 'humor' as it spews from her disturbing 'Jokers' smile to recognize how ugly and mean spirited she is inside.
Unfortunately, the world of cable television adores her and encourages her to add her venom to the ignorant RW climate of intolerance and judgment. People still laugh, but she really hasn't been funny in years. Even if she doesn't really admire Palin - she doesn't add anything but ugly to the conversation. Go figure.

:patriot:

[monmouth]

3. Botox has gone to the brain...n/t

[earthside]

4. The beginnings of a new group?

"Artificial Women for Palin"

[solara]

21. Excellent! eom

:patriot:

[Zoeisright]

5. So I was right in disliking that plastic ... woman for so many years.

Rivers is mean, not funny, and unbelievably fake, inside and out. Apparently she and the quitter were separated at birth. By a plastic surgeon.

[onenote]

44. you might have listened to the clip before commenting

She crapped all over Palin. The OP is disgustingly misleading.

[blogslut]

6. Haha

Ya'll need to actually listen to what Joan said in this video.

[bullwinkle428]

7. JR is self-identified as a Republican, but I guess that whole

"blood libel" thing went right over her head!

[leveymg]

8. Joan Rivers makes my skin crawl, like something dead with a bad smell.

I've had a strong adverse reaction to her for years, and it isn't just her politics. She's not funny, but flaunts a sort of celebrity status in the worst way - beyond just embarrassing.

[Pool Hall Ace]

10. People need to watch the whole video.

She goes on to say that Palin is "stupid and a threat."

I know that Joan has had a lot of cosmetic surgery, but I still find her funny!

[ensho]

11. her mind must be going

could she have been joking

[onenote]

53. watch the video - she was actually ripping Palin

[Deep13]

12. complete moron =/= strong, amazing or even sexy.

[chelsea0011]

13. Uhmmmm? This is the 21st Century. There are thousands upon thousands upon millions

of strong women.

[Stevenmarc]

14. I just love the Knee-jerking, watch the video first, then type

[Dogtown]

15. }faceplam{

Could you people actually watch the video before making comments?

[WCGreen]

16. Heaven forbid anyone should listen to the whole thing before offering

up judgement...

Never liked her but this was a dead pan swipe at Palin..,

[emulatorloo]

31. Typical of DU these days, if you ask me.

[demmiblue]

17. Joan tells it like it is!

:rofl:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

20. I have heard Joan enough times to know that she loathes Palin and see if this is the full video.

[seabeyond]

22. hey renew, .... your title is a bunch of bullshit. people arent going to watch video

because we dont want to hear this shit...

you purposely put up a bullshit subject line

[Renew Deal]

38. That's exactly what she said.

I didn't make it up.

[onenote]

57. no you didn't "make it up." You just quoted it selectively to create a misimpression

[Renew Deal]

60. Who? Me?

:evilgrin:

[johnroshan]

111. An amazing social experiment, if you ask me..

We can see how easily people can be mislead. A majority of us never check the sources and try to form an independent opinion. Its far too easy to trust in the spin the media(in this case, You) puts out, and far too difficult too check sources for every article.

Not to be disparaging, I do agree that there is also the element of trust inherent in DU members for other DUers. However, its more important that we maintain our unique perspective free from influence if we are to maintain a liberal democracy.


John.

[seabeyond]

70. did i say you made it up? obviously ever took it the way you wanted. bullshit subject line. nt

[kestrel91316]

23. Feminism FAIL.

[gulliver]

24. I'm sure it's a joke. And seeing Joan in "A Piece of Work"...

...is not to be missed.

[no_hypocrisy]

25. Why Joan probably likes Sarah:

1. Both are Republican
2. Both love Israel
3. Joan sees Sarah as an underdog, reminds her of herself coming up through the rough business in the comedy clubs
4. Joan loves Sarah's "I won't sit down and shut up". It's one of Joan's tattoos.

[seabeyond]

26. she doesnt like palin. she was being snarky. nt

[no_hypocrisy]

30. Add it to the list.

BTW, amazing how Joan let the "blood libel" bit go unchallenged . . . .

[blogslut]

34. She addressed that

Perhaps you should watch the video again.

[no_hypocrisy]

39. My computer won't let me play the video. I bookmarked it for later.

Thanks.

[emulatorloo]

28. She doesn't like Palin.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

85. Stop being lazy and watch the f**ing video. You haven't a clue.

[no_hypocrisy]

88. Easy . . . I CAN'T watch the video on THIS computer. I'll watch it at home.

[emulatorloo]

27. WATCH THE WHOLE VIDEO

[seabeyond]

29. people arent gonna watch when they think they are going ot get the crap the OP implied. nt

[walldude]

47. Exactly... no one wants to see someone fawning over Palin

why the OP would post it like this is beyond me...

[seabeyond]

71. dishonest. people will only read subject line and not go in, thinking rivers

said the opposite of what she was saying. pisses me off. lol

[Raine]

93. Plus some of us are unable to watch videos

my internet device is old and I'm on dial-up so I can't watch videos.

[seabeyond]

101. then there is that too. i saw another poster, same thing. not to mention people reading down page

and not reading anything else but that....

it is wrong.

i dont do blatant dishonesty well.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

87. People have already bought the crap the OP had to spew.

[WolverineDG]

32. Joan Rivers is a rude, obnoxious cow who's had way too much plastic surgery nt

[seabeyond]

33. the subject line is bullshit. rivers was dissing palin.... just cant tell from OP. nt

[WolverineDG]

35. doesn't matter

JR is a rude, obnoxious cow who's had way too much plastic surgery.

dg

[seabeyond]

72. fine, it is still wrong to have the subject line misleading people. nt

[Violet_Crumble]

98. I don't give a shit. It's still not okay to lie about her..

Guess what? I dislike how stiff her face is and that show she does, but that doesn't mean I'm going to find it acceptable to be dishonest about what she says. And when you get down to it, I'm finding the obsession of some with her plastic surgery to be just a little bit creepy and obsessive...

[WinkyDink]

56. And her surgery matters to you because? How about Kenny Rogers's?

[WolverineDG]

92. Kenny Rogers made any statements regarding Sarah Palin lately?

hmmm????

but if it will appease your sense of umbrage, I think Kenny Rogers also has had too much plastic surgery. :eyes:



dg

[Krakowiak]

36. This thread wins the prize for the most deliberately misleading OP I've seen on DU

Really stupid post.

Joan is saying the OPPOSITE of you what you are implying here, and it is a low blow to smear her this way.

[Renew Deal]

40. Those are her words.

I didn't make it up. It's her joke to tell.

[Krakowiak]

45. It's a great joke, but it's not fair to Joan to post this

because most people won't view the video...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

86. Yeah, and you take her first couple of words to twist what she had to say. A little dishonest

wouldn't you say?

[Gormy Cuss]

41. It should also win a prize for the number of condemning posts made without viewing the video.

The OP used selective quoting, a well known device to twist someone's intent. Happens every hour on FOX News, for example.

Watching just a few more seconds of video gets the viewer to Rivers' punch line.

[ismnotwasm]

46. Boy I'm glad I scolled down to the end of the posts

Before I posted anything, my knee was getting ready for the 'ol jerk as well.

Now I'll actully watch it and leave my foot out of my mouth hopefully.

[Krakowiak]

49. you got that right (nt)

[seabeyond]

73. who is going to go into the video to hear bullshit about palin. leaves people to believe an opposite

and many people are not going to listen to the video cause they dont want to hear the crap.

[Violet_Crumble]

97. I did, but only becauae I read comments saying the OP was misleading...

And on watching the video, I agree with them. I think the way she was portrayed by the OP was misleading and dishonest...

[seabeyond]

102. yup. agree. nt

[Violet_Crumble]

105. What makes it worse is that some of us can't watch the video to see for ourselves...

I'm off sick from work today, but if I was there, all videos are blocked, and I wouldn't be able to watch it and see. And a few other posters in this thread have pointed out they can't watch the video, so I'm not the only one who wouldn't know how misleading the OP is. I'm also uncomfortable with the focus on her plastic surgery and how it's being used to put her down, and don't see what it has to do with anything that she says and believes...

[Raine]

94. Some of us can't watch the video so the poster

did no one a favor with that subject line. I can't watch the video so I have to count on the subject line to give some realistic clue as to what the video is about, unfortunately.

[Gormy Cuss]

109. I understand. That also means that one can't make an informed comment..

And believe me, I've shot off my mouth based on an OP only to learn later that reading or watching the link would have changed my comment considerably. I try not to do that anymore. YMMV.

[seabeyond]

114. or... we can collectively call bullshit and expect more of our duers... nt

[Gormy Cuss]

116. Krakowiak called bullshit AFTER viewing the link. Big difference. n/t

[Auggie]

43. +1

[eilen]

37. I love Joan!

Seriously, People should actually watch the video. She is being sarcastic when she says the OP title. She says Palin is stupid, a threat and is totally responsible for causing the kind of hatred and violence that happened in Arizona.

[stanwyck]

63. Do you agree with her about Geraldine Ferraro? Bernard Goetz?

Needless to say, I don't love her.

[eilen]

106. I don't have to agree with everything she says

She is a comedian. She works her ass off. She went places as a female comedian that paved the way for the Kathy Giffords and the Sarah Sivermans of the world. I have respect for that. She is not a pundit or political figure. You can disagree with people and still support their right to their opinion and still enjoy their talent and ostentatious personality. I don't agree with many male comedian's chauvanism but still enjoy their comedy and respect them. If you are looking for a purity test with comedians, you may as well not laugh ever. They are supposed to push your buttons, cross boundaries of polite discussion, piss people off-- nothing is sacred to a comedian if it can get a laugh.

[Auggie]

42. Joan Rivers: Sarah Plain "is stupid and a threat."

[Zephie]

48. Edit: Intentionally misleading OP is intentionally misleading.

However, I stand by my previous statement that Joan Rivers scares children.

[Renew Deal]

58. lol

:rofl:

[LynneSin]

50. Coming from a woman whose skin is pulled so fricking tight you could play quarters on her forehead

:eyes:

[onenote]

54. You really need to watch the video and not rely on the OP's misleading description

[Renew Deal]

59. Why would it matter?

Her "skin is pulled so fricking tight you could play quarters on her forehead" or not. :D

[patricia92243]

51. Good for Joan! She tells it like it is - but with a funny slant to make it more palatable. Love

her on the weekly Fashion Police - glad she has given Kelly Osborne a place on the show.

Look forward to seeing her new show where she moves in with Melissa. I assume she (Joan) is getting old and has to move - like a lot of seniors do - but she is making the most of it. It was kinda of sad that she couldn't make the Golden Globes.

[CBGLuthier]

52. Yep. The knee jerks say a lot about certain aspects of DU.

always cruising for the next target to hate and say mean things about.

[onenote]

55. Its absolutely pathetic how many people on this thread commented without watching

[stanwyck]

61. In the past, she praised Bernard Goetz and said Poppy Bush

"kicked Geraldine Ferraro's ass" during the VP debates (he didn't).
If you're too young to know who Bernard Goetz was, he initially appeared to be a hero - shooting young men who he maintained were threatening him on a subway train. However, as details emerged, his vigilante hero status became tarnished. He was carrying an unlicensed gun, the young men were not carrying weapons, and the "threats" involved one young man asking Goetz for $5.00. Goetz fired a second time into one young man as he was lying wounded from the first gunshot wound. Rivers, and countless others, praised Goetz as a hero.

[Renew Deal]

65. I don't think it's possible to have grown up in NY in the 80's without knowing who Bernie Goetz is,

That was a huge story that made a major impact on NY at the time. I think Goetz is out of jail and is still a hero to some.

[stanwyck]

75. Goetz served 6 months on the firearms charge. n/t

[AlinPA]

62. deleted by author. duplicate.

[AlinPA]

64. The subject line in this OP is grossly misleading. nt

[devilgrrl]

66. I'm glad that read through the responses and watched the clip before commenting

Rivers tears Plain a new one folks.

[trackfan]

67. This thread is a classic. n/t

[patricia92243]

68. Yes, it is. The replies to the post are more interesting than the video. People don't seem to have

the time to actually watch the video - but do have the time to post their uninformed opinion. DU has changed a lot from the good old days. Unfortunately.

[Renew Deal]

69. I think it's exactly the same

And somewhat predictable. That's not a bad thing.

[devilgrrl]

80. I'm kind of glad you went about this the way you did...

In the past I wouldn't make it much past the headline. Lately, I read the entire article before commenting... it forces you to do so.

[seabeyond]

74. why would people waste the time to watch crap the op implied? nt

[onenote]

79. to independently verify whether it was an accurate portrayal?

[seabeyond]

82. one would hope that a du poster would not be so purposely misleading.....

the intent of putting the information on subject line is for people to be informed to see if they are interested in further exploration.

the subject line cried for people to shun it.

[Renew Deal]

89. I disagree

This thread has gotten lots of eyeballs.

[seabeyond]

91. so? is that the intent, integrity or not.... get views? just doesnt work for me. nt

[Renew Deal]

81. Because Joan Rivers is a compelling personality

And a comic. Everyone has an opinion about Joan.

[Stevenmarc]

96. It's called

intellectual curiosity, which is obviously lacking in some of the posters who pretty much type to see themselves type.

[seabeyond]

103. there is nothing intellectual about being curious of someone fawning over palin.

where would the intellectual part of your statement be.....

[Stevenmarc]

108. Really?

People do it here all the time, certainly this thread is proof of that. Another thing people do here all the time is knee-jerk over post titles without actually bothering with the content.

[fascisthunter]

76. Your Title is very Misleading

very dishonest

[seabeyond]

83. i think it is dishonest too. nt

[Puregonzo1188]

77. And why should anyone care what Joan Rivers thinks of Sarah Palin?

I actually watched the video and am aware that she was being, as another poster put it, snarky, but still who would even ask Joan Rivers such questions?

[oberliner]

78. Funny how so few people actually watch the video to see that she was being sarcastic

Telling her to go to another planet!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

84. I just watched the Whole Video!!! Why are you so misleading about what Joan said? She said Palin

should be on another planet and that she has responsiblity for the AZ shooting.

[Broderick]

90. HAHAHAHAHA

All the comments before even listening to it.

[upi402]

95. Joan FLAMED Palin -- 100% bullshit OP

Woman ripped Palin to shreds. I bet she posts here and gets told to tone it down a lot.

[MadBadger]

99. I dont understand your motive for this thread

I know you saw the whole video, so it kind of just confuses me.

[flvegan]

100. This thread is the updated "read the whole article" standard.

Watch the whole damn video.

[CreekDog]

104. "...except smart"

:think:

[Blue-Jay]

107. Fish in a barrel.

Well done.

[Skip Intro]

110. WATCH THE VIDEO BEFORE YOU COMMENT - SHEESH! nt

[Tatersbrowning]

112. Lighten up!

I find it ironic that people are resenting irony. It strikes me as a CYA move to save face for commenting without knowing what what you're commenting on. A post title doesn't necessarily have to be spot on.

"you can't judge a book by looking at the cover." _ Bo Diddly

[pinniped]

113. She talks shit for cash. How admirable.

.

[eShirl]

115. I knew Joan Rivers had to be teeing-up for a big slamm

if the OP explained everything it would ruin the joke