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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:44 PM Original message |
Is America one of the worst police states in the world? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. shh! look, over there.....terrorists under every shrub and protest movement nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
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Puzzledtraveller (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. ditto |
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Itchinjim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. No. |
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Marazinia (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. No |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't think police capabilities translate into police-state. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Mebbe not the worst but surely the most effective. n/t |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. No. Don't confuse the desire for authoritarianism with competence. nt |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
9. The uber rich have decided that the 99% are expendable. The police do not realize that they are the |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. No. Having been to bona fide police states (Singapore, Cuba)... |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Well then, we have been getting closer to a police state every year since 1994. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Ever since 1980 (and some would say it started in 1963) |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
56. honest question: |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. In the long term, yes they have gone down |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. the U.S. has a far higher percentage of its population in prison than Iran, North Korea or Saudi Ara |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. We have been programmed to believe certain "truths"... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. No. And it's that sort of complete lack of perspective that drives me insane. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. LOL! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I actually understand what a police state is, which apparently puts me ahead of you and the OP. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. It reminds me of people calling Obama's address to schools "the most authoritarian act ever." (nt) |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
16. Hmm no, we are a dictablanda |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. True... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. The government sent the U.S. Army and Marines to Los Angeles to suppress |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
19. It's an effective police state |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Some folks feel threatened by such conversation... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. In the same way scientists are "threatened" by global warming denial. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You seem to think that all police states torture and murder its citizens? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I think that you clearly don't understand the definition of a police state. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. That is your definition of a "police state"... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. That's exactly the point I was trying to make in replying to this toon |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sort of depends on your definition of police state. I know Iranians and Russians. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Well said... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. It's interesting that you mention the TSA... |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. No way. Best ever. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I would have to agree with that. |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
57. Bwahahaha. Great answer! |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. Some people are so sensitive... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. No, one of the better ones. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. ... |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. I see you made some posters poo-poo their pants out of fear. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
33. Here's an experiment anyone who says "no" on this thread can try: |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. So you're going to compare car registration to being tortured or murdered for a political opinion? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. Okay, throw a bag of home grown weed in the glove box... |
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cyglet (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
71. I've had ID, they've still hassled me |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
61. America may be approaching a police state but it's not one of the worst. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Thank you for your perspective... |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
35. No. There are much worse. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
39. Excellent question |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I have my hands over my ears.....I can't hear you... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. By the way read democracy inc |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Plutocracy at it's finest. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. From wikepedia |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Oh trust me lived under one |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. We are definitely going thru some major changes, nadin... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
46. It's the best. |
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Cal Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. LOL |
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Cal Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. We have 5% of world's population and almost 25% of world's prisoners |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. This is the beginning and end of the argument. |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
51. A question not asked by taxpayers is why do police forces need to be |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Remember this one?? |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Most UK police are unarmed, and that works fine most of the time. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
59. I'd put it in the top 20. Obviously, some countries like China and North Korea are much worse, but |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
65. Just like when DUers solemnly claim that we are "living under fascism", |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Once we understand... |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. So DU will be shut down when it receives more than a certain number of daily views? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. We can dream... |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Hooray! Political agitators don't get disappeared in the night! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
67. Nnnnnnnope. |
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