Baby Doc arrested in Haiti

[malaise]

taken into custody by police at Port-au-Prince hotel.

from CNN

[spanone]

1. k&r....

[malaise]

10. Sorry Veronique - it didn't quite work out the way

you and that fucking thief of a murderer planned it
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/world/Duvalier%20to%20be%20arrested,%20says%20Haitian%20official/-/1068/1091918/-/13qugt4/-/
<snip>
Duvalier’s companion, Veronique Roy, who accompanied him to Haiti, denied the police presence was a move to arrest him, saying: “It has nothing to do with us.” She added Duvalier would hold a press conference later today to explain his mystery return to the Caribbean nation he ruled for 15 years.

“It’s not a political presence, it’s a move of solidarity” for the country still struggling to recover from the January 2010 earthquake which killed more than 220,000 people and left 1.3 million homeless, she said. Mr Jean-Jacques alleged the move to arrest Duvalier stemmed from charges being brought by Michele Montas, the former spokeswoman of UN chief Ban Ki-moon.
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I say turn him over to the Haitian people in the tents

[leftstreet]

2. K&R

[Puregonzo1188]

3. Excellent news!

[emilyg]

4. knr

[dembotoz]

5. what was he thinking????? They would welcome him back??????

[Proud Liberal Dem]

9. It seemed like that's what the earlier stories posted here sounded like

(not that anybody here was saying that he would be welcomed back just that the stories posted here made it seem like the people of Haiti were clamoring for his return). Was that what the neocons had been hoping for? Where is Aristide nowadays? Didn't he get deposed (again) during Bush's (P)residency?

[DCKit]

14. I've heard that Aristide is also on his way back.

Given that he is not approved by CorporAmurka, he's probably the right guy for the job.

[EFerrari]

15. The American media sure did make it sound as if he got a big welcome

to the point where the freepish were maligning Haiti in comments sections. And yeah, Bush ousted Arisitide again and Powell told him to stay out of the hemisphere. They kidnapped him and dropped him into Central Africa. If it wasn't for Maxine Waters, the Aristides might have died there.

[demosincebirth]

21. thats what my wife just said

[EFerrari]

26. That's one of the reasons BushCo hates Maxine with a passion.

She fought back when they dumped IranContra drugs in her district and she's fought back for Haiti, too.

You guys should watch Aristide and the Endless Revolution -- there is a clip of a hearing where these bastards are lying their @sses off to Congress about Aristide and the only members that nail them on it are Charlie Rangel and Maxine Waters. :shrug:

[barbtries]

34. watch instantly on netflix!

thanks for the heads up - i will watch it tonight.

OT, but...i love netflix.

[blondeatlast]

6. good. nt

[Botany]

7. Bad Move Baby Doc

You and your dad looted that country for decades and now you go back
to the very same country?



People remember your thugs too, the Tonton Macoutes.

[Swamp Rat]

8. YAY!!!

:bounce:

[malaise]

12. Yah indeed

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/jean-claude-baby-doc-duvalier-arrested-upon-haiti-return-2748667.html
<snip>
Former dictator Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier returned to Haiti after 25 years in exile. Two days after his arrival, Baby Doc was arrested at the Karibe Hotel in Port-au-Prince.

Baby Doc Duvbalier took over Haiti at age 19, ruling the country from 1971 to 1986. A popular revolt forced him to flee the country. Duvalier, like his father, Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier, used Haiti's secret police to keep the populace in line.

Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Jean-Claude 'Baby Doc' Duvalier Arrested Upon Haiti Return | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/world/jean-claude-baby-doc-duvalier-arrested-upon-haiti-return-2748667.html#ixzz1BPmdIgX2

[EFerrari]

11. This is fascinating.

Was he brought back to be a feather in someone's cap? He didn't look very happy in the little footage there was of his arrival.

:kick:

[malaise]

13. Read the comments section

I can tell you that the uproar over his arrival in our Caribbean could be heard across the globe.

[EFerrari]

16. He looks terrible. His face is very thin. n/t

[malaise]

24. Must have imagined stealing some of that money floating

around. Fuck him.

[EFerrari]

28. Sure -- it was just odd because he didn't look like someone in shape

to pull another heist.

[DCKit]

17. Which comments? CNN, or one of the other links cited here? nt

[Posteritatis]

31. Keep in mind what he's coming back *to*

The quake took numbers from Haiti in the same league as the atomic bombings did from Japan, and didn't take that much longer to do it, either.

I know I'd be horrified seeing that roll by below me as the plane came in.

[EFerrari]

35. The phrase that comes to mind is "disaster capitalism". n/t

[pinboy3niner]

18. It's about time

His return made me wonder if he had received guarantees that he would not be arrested. He needs to stand trial for his crimes against the Haitian people, and against humanity.

[barbtries]

19. all the coverage i've heard on this story

was on NPR yesterday. it made it sound as if he'd enjoyed a hero's welcome. i only listen to NPR in the car, so i was driving and thinking about the bush admin and all of their crimes and thinking so other countries don't get justice when their leaders are criminals. i hope Haiti pursues justice for all the crimes of duvalier's rein.

is it true that many of the people say life was better before he went into exile?

[EFerrari]

22. Wasn't that before Clinton gifted American rice farmers

with the Haitian market? Haiti used to produce 80% of its own rice and after that, their ag sector was devastated by cheap American stuff. Also, since then, the infrastructure has been steadily privatized out of existence. But it wasn't anything this jackal did right, it's more that after him the privateers did better with the help of the usual governments, America, France, Canada.

[barbtries]

33. i just don't know.

i am woefully uninformed. and NPR may not be the best source. today on the way home from work the story was that he was escorted by the police from the hotel but they stopped short of saying "arrested." i'll be curious to see how it all plays out.

[demosincebirth]

23. It was good if you belonged to the Tonton Macoute

[walldude]

27. +1.. I haven't seen those two words in a long time...

Maybe anyone thinking that Baby Doc's return is a good thing ought to look up the Tonton Macoute....

[malaise]

32. Ding ding we have a winner

Meanwhile the democratically elected Aristide was kicked out of his own country by Bush. Time for Aristide to return home.

[hootinholler]

20. I smell a Doonesbury reprise.

:GREENBOUNCEYTHANGOJOY:

-Hoot

[Cerridwen]

25. Yay!

[Peace Patriot]

29. Well, now that the CIA and Haiti's scumbag tiny rich elite failed to rig the election for

U.S. multinational corporate/war profiteer interests, and that rotten election was soundly rejected by the people of Haiti, and the government is now even more rudderless, they may think now is the time to rehab "Baby Doc" in a rigged trial with a bought-and-paid-for judge, in order to install what the U.S. really wants to have in Haiti: another fascist dictator.

This has been the U.S. solution to rightwing death squads, fascist, U.S.-funded militaries and police forces, torture, murder, mass graves and every kind of oppression, in the past, in the Latin American/Caribbean region. Once the trade unionists and other leftist leadership is decapitated, and the population terrorized, and the truth about that starts to leak out, then some form of "truth and reconciliation" or luxurious exile is concocted, to preserve the pigs who did the "cleansing"--or their spawn--for rehab and "return." This is happening with regard to that monster, Alvaro Uribe, of Colombia, as we speak. He's teaching at Georgetown and Harvard, for goddssakes! The CIA has prevented him being prosecuted in Colombia by arranging asylum for the witnesses against him in Panama, over the objections of Colombian prosecutors! This is so Uribe can return when the time is ripe. It's happening in different forms and at different stages of completion of the project, in Honduras, Guatemala, Peru, Ecuador, Venezuela and other countries.

One form that it takes is outright billions of dollars flowing through the USAID and other U.S. agencies into the pockets of fascist groups who plot and carry out coup d'etats while pretending, where they have to, to be merely participating in democracy--democracy that simply wouldn't be happening if they had their way. Another form is the U.S. State Department's fucking lies about the Honduran junta. Another is the monsters in Guatemala--genocidal maniacs who slaughtered 200,000 Mayan villagers--running around free as the result of a "truth and reconciliation" process designed by U.S. client, Costa Rica. Time and billions of U.S. tax dollars and 24/7 corpo-fascist propaganda pave their way back to power.

In this case, the U.S. must have got wind that Aristide--the elected, legitimate president of Haiti whom the Bushwhacks brutally ousted--is intending to return to Haiti. He is the one leader who could pull Haiti together, restore its democracy and create a just government. But he has an independent mind and is committed to social justice. So, what they've apparently decided to do, in anticipation of this horror--the "horror" of restoration of the rightful order of things in Haiti--is stoke up bloodshed, mayhem and civil war.

"Baby Doc" cannot have returned to Haiti without U.S. facilitation. And their object isn't justice, believe me. Their object is disorder, with "Baby Doc" seizing power in that disorder, and, maybe, with some Clintonian democracy cosmetics, as in Honduras, having him proceed with the cleansing of leftists (i.e., democrats with a small d), as occurred under his and his father's heinous rules, and every time the U.S. has ousted Aristide or interfered with his rightful government, and has been occurring in Colombia for the last ten years, and is now occurring in Honduras as well.

"Baby Doc" returning is meant to prevent Aristide's peaceful return. The U.S. is behind it and the object is to restore fascist rule in Haiti. As to the final outcome, it's possible that the people of Haiti and the new leftist leadership in Latin America can eventually foil this nasty plan but Honduras is not a hopeful precedent. However, Honduras may have been a hard enough lesson in U.S. treachery for the rest of the region to be more determined and more effective this time, at protecting Latin American/Caribbean democracy and sovereingty.

[Kurovski]

30. K&R. (nt)