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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:00 PM Original message |
Someone, please post a link to Obama's statement he will cut Social Security. |
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treestar
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. there is none, it is pure hysteria |
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. We don't hate Obama. We want him to be accountable to Dem values. |
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EC
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. That is just Seder's opinion |
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bobbolink
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. You might want to read Senator Sander's words. |
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pipi_k
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Jumping in here... |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. He said they would not take SS off the table...how is that an opinion? That's what they told him |
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #71 |
151. I got the email from Sen. Sanders and he infers that |
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pacalo
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Why are there so many articles on the 'net predicting it? They're not just Sanders' words. |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. You make a pretty good point. He would have put the lid on these speculations if it weren't true |
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TheWraith
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
107. Because none of the panic-mongers need their hysteria to be based on actual facts. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
110. Until it comes straight from Obama's mouth and/or via a plan, it's PURE CONJECTURE. |
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True_Blue
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
93. He's def been hinting around at it |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
69. What is Seder's Opinion? Digby was at a White House meeting where they said they were going to "fix" |
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JuniperLea
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. "He wants to" ... "He's thinking about" ... "He is trying to" ... |
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treestar
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #79 |
99. It's just an excuse for another round of Obama bashing |
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JuniperLea
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. Yep, and yep... |
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ldf
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Thu Jan-20-11 12:10 AM Response to Reply #79 |
166. only concerned about what he actually says and does |
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lamp_shade
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. I anxiously await the informed responses you get. I haven't seen one yet on this board. |
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AtomicKitten
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. crickets |
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MineralMan
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. There is no such statement, to the disappointment of some. |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. Wrong and meanspirited. Some believe he has made a number of indications that |
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MineralMan
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Some believe. Some say. I hear. It seems. |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
143. So you think Pres Obama will save Social Security kinda like he saved the public option. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
120. "Bernie Sanders thinks..." where I come from, that's called an opinion. nt |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #120 |
142. So what do you think? Do you think Pres Obama will support the public option. Ooops no. Maybe Social |
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blondeatlast
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Wed Jan-19-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #142 |
154. Please, kindly indicate what "bullshit DLC propaganda" to which you refer. |
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rhett o rick
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Wed Jan-19-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #154 |
156. You avoided my question. nm |
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blondeatlast
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Wed Jan-19-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #156 |
162. You didn't ask nicely and I have no idea what you are talking about. nt |
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rhett o rick
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Wed Jan-19-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. Maybe if I speak slowly. Do you think Pres Obama will leave Social Security alone? |
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pacalo
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
80. Nope -- it has NOTHING to do with my dislike. Step out of DU & google the subject. |
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MineralMan
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. Normally, I don't mention unrecs, but in this thread I will. |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Please read my comment below. |
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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Your comment below draw erroneous assumptions |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. What is erroneous? |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. And also he cut FICA tax , which will reduce the solvency period of SS. This is an |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
112. The OP is NOT BS. That very same commission report toiled with raising the cap |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
132. Technically, you're right, he never SAID he would "cut SS", but |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. You forgot the explaination for your comments. nm |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Here's an explanation, not that it seems to matter: |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
106. Hello, I agree with you. My comment was to the other poster that doesnt. nm |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
113. Let's see... |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
83. Good comment, I just read it. We'll have to wait to see if |
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Can you take Obama's silence as an indication? His choice of political and economic advisors? |
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Blue-Jay
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
103. He hasn't said that he's going to fart in your face either. |
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WinkyDink
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. If he'd have bought cans of beans (Simpson) and kraut (Bowles), I might wonder. |
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Blue-Jay
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #115 |
129. LOL! |
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Caretha
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #103 |
134. Stupidist Reply Award goes to..........U? |
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Blue-Jay
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. I'd like to thank the academy. |
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Caretha
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Sorry you didn't earn the y & o |
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Blue-Jay
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. If I add your two posts together, I certainly did! |
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Scurrilous
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. Kick |
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OHdem10
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. There is a strong possibility that this assumption has arisen from |
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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Bull |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. SS does not contribute to the deficit and was not in the Commission's mandate yet he wanted them to |
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EFerrari
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. The National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. big kick. Thanks. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. It was the Deficit Commission. Call it bull, be my guest but |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. And you have nothing to prove otherwise. You are spouting rhetoric. nm |
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. If when you go to bed and there is no snow on the ground, but when you wake up there is snow on the |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. bravo |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
118. Wow, your description of "critical thinking" must be why this report was released... |
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indepat
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #118 |
130. That study fit my four-years matriculation to a tee in most all respects: hopefully |
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sharp_stick
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Clip.... What Clip? |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Doesn't matter. Their proposals are being considered by the WH and group of bipartisan senators |
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sharp_stick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. still no clip |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. hmmm...did you not see the links I provided? |
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sharp_stick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Holy Shit |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. No definitive decisions have been made but the trial balloons are everywhere...why not use this |
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bobbolink
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
60. Then wait until it is accomplished. Will you then offer apologies to those who are harmed? |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
86. This sounds familiar. Wait, I know why. |
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Poboy
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
111. Its the exact 'stand down' until it is too late tactic that is used over and over. |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #111 |
127. Exactly, and I'm glad to see that it's not working this time. |
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bobbolink
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #111 |
158. Exactly right. That people can't or won't see this shows just how far we have been dumbed down. |
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EC
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Commissions are CYA panels |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. That's outrageous. But I agree. nm |
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #44 |
146. You mean like the Greenspan Commission? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
116. SSN being "on the table" is NOT the same as SSN "being cut." |
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's reported that |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Thank you. Many advocacy groups have met with the President on this subject |
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polmaven
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. "It is reported that" |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I think Bernie Sanders' meeting w/ WH officials is more credible than tea party nonsense |
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polmaven
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Was it reported by Bernie Sanders |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Link HERE |
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polmaven
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Ok, so...to you |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. read the entire article, That quote was misleading out of context. |
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polmaven
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
73. So, once again... |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Please follow my train of research here: |
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polmaven
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Until I hear it from either the president |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
119. "no definitive decisions have been made on the issue of social security" |
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sharp_stick
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Reported where? |
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treestar
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
100. Cut what? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #100 |
121. Nope. They'll find something else to go ballistic about regarding Obama. |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. Please watch Digby discuss this on Sam Seder |
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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Where does "fix" mean a smaller SS check for Grandma rather that fixing waste and inefficiencty |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Because the fixes that are proposed are means testing, reducing COLA and raising the retirement age |
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
123. Do you know how much money could be saved just by raising the cap? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
122. "fix" could mean "cut." "Fix" could also mean "raising the cap." "Fix could also |
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. Have you found any statements indicating President Obama won't sign any law cutting Social Security |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Thanks for talking some sense! I posted plenty of evidence. |
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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. More quotes available that you would like to admit maybe? |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Your 2nd link is from his campaign website. He said a lot in the |
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
77. He was also for a single payer system and later a strong public option until he was against them. |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. I remember that. He was for a lot of things, he is now against. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
126. He's still for a public option, but it wasn't happening in the Congress |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
72. I'm not worred about the House Dems. Most of them are on board. |
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pacalo
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
84. Do you realize that the About.com article you posted is from Obama's campaign days? |
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Liberal_Stalwart71
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
125. It's funny. You and others assert that the president is not stupid. |
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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
26. People sure are fighting hard to protect the unsubstantiated meme |
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
39. Bernie Sanders has stated that he has heard that Obama |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
74. I seriously love you right now :) |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
102. Thank you, love you too! |
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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
85. Bernie sander NEVER said "Obama is considering cuts to SS. " |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. Sanders was so concerned about the reports he has heard |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
42. I would love to see a Pres Obama quote saying he is going to protect Social Security. |
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EFerrari
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:42 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Me, too. He hasn't said that, not even after the Cat Food commissioner |
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pacalo
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
88. And I felt like a fool after I had posted many times after the cat food commission's PR |
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EFerrari
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Anxiety is right. Daily companion for women in my age group |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
46. America's Senator Sanders thinks it is likely. Only the DLC is trying to ease it in. |
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lamp_shade
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. Hmmm... as I anticipated... NOBODY can find a link. |
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madfloridian
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. His silence is deafening. |
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treestar
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
101. If a President were required to waste time answering every made up charge |
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madfloridian
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #101 |
124. No, he chose two anti-Soc Sec chairmen. It was his decision. |
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treestar
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. He can't respond to all irrational anger |
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madfloridian
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #131 |
147. This is not irrational anger. It is legit fear. He needs to clarify. |
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Caretha
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #101 |
136. That's stupid |
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rhett o rick
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. No link showing Pres Obama saving Social Security. nm |
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lamp_shade
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. "Someone, please post a link to Obama's statement he will cut Social Security" |
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jtown1123
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. The OP suggests that an official statement is the only indication, which is not the case. |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. He already has cut SS... |
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Caretha
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
137. + 1000 |
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Sheepshank
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
90. Please produce a link |
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pacalo
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
91. If you have a link to the contrary, it would be appreciated. It goes both ways. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #91 |
144. I was trying to prove a point that went whizzing over your head |
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
51. His appt of the debt commission co-chairs speaks volumes. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
64. "It's been said here a lot"... |
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
76. "It's been said here a lot." |
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. False assumption that all articles |
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. It works both ways, sheepshank. Do you have a resource that would put an |
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
94. He posted it here on DU under one of his pseudonyms |
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
96. Please post all the links thus proving "It's been said here a lot," otherwise this is a Straw Man |
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
104. In the first state of the union address he used the words |
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
128. What/?!??! |
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #128 |
139. He is talking about privatizing with his sentence on |
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. Willful ignorance? Your insults are not taken to heart. There is nothing in this |
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Hardly where I'd fit in - FR would throw me out in a second when I started talking |
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Tue Jan-18-11 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
105. You just watch-- all the people presently sighing and rolling their eyes |
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #105 |
157. I think the simplest thing is for DU simply to agree that we will not support any SS cuts, period. |
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. I second that! |
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Wed Jan-19-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Yes. This is exactly the concern. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
114. Do you think he will spell this out in those terms? He ain't crazy. |
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Tue Jan-18-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
117. As soon as you post one where he says he will continue torture |
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
133. Bookmarking until the SOTU. |
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #133 |
152. They'll find SOME excuse |
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
135. He created the Catfood Commision to say it for him. |
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
149. And still no Obama quote...nt |
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Wed Jan-19-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. To my knowledge he has never said he will CUT social security - |
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
150. Bookmarked... |
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Wed Jan-19-11 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
155. NPR Interview, Dec. 10, 2010. SS and Medicaid are "long-term debt and deficit" to be dealt with. |
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Wed Jan-19-11 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
161. Apparently the voters see something the OP doesn't: |
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Wed Jan-19-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #161 |
163. Froomkin(check), hit piece(check). |
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Wed Jan-19-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Sorry... |
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