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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:06 AM
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10-Year-Old With Gun Threatens Woman After She Jokes About Taking His Halloween Candy
Still think handgun insurance is a bad idea? Suppose this Georgia woman had been shot. This is exactly the kind of crazy stuff for which actual victims should be able to sue. Some critics have pointed out that you can already file a claim against someone's homeowner's insurance -- but not everyone owns a home. If this handgun owner knew his mandatory insurance premiums would go up dramatically if his grandkids got hold of his gun, he might have been a little more careful. Right, grandpa?

A 10-year-old Aiken trick-or-treater pulled a gun on a woman who said she would take his candy on Halloween.
According to a police incident report, the 28-year-old victim told authorities she recognized some boys from her neighborhood while they were trick-or-treating about 6:30 p.m. Monday near Schroeder and George streets and jokingly told them she would take their candy.

One 10-year-old in the group of about 10 juveniles responded with “no you’re not …” and then pointed a 9 mm handgun at her.
According to Aiken Public Safety Lt. David Turno, the clip was not in the gun at the time, but the boy did have a loaded clip in his possession.
The boy’s brother, also 10, told authorities he also had a gun. The second weapon was recovered Tuesday morning.


I've always been adamant about letting kids wander in a house with guns. My father-in-law kept a loaded handgun in his bedside table, and refused to take the bullets out while we were visiting. That's why my kids were never allowed to stay overnight with their grandparents. (I was "overreacting," my mother-in-law told me. "Better safe than sorry," I told her.)

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/trick-or-treat-10-year-old-gun-threat
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:11 AM
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1. Just because there's no clip in the weapon does not mean there's not a round in the chamber..
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 06:12 AM by Fumesucker
Interesting how that was phrased, they didn't say the gun was unloaded.

Edited title for clarity..
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:24 AM
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6. There wasn't
The article on the Aiken, GA newspaper website says:

Aiken Public Safety Lt. David Turno said the child had taken the gun from his grandfather without permission. The boy also had a loaded magazine for the gun but it was apart from the weapon, and there was not a bullet in the chamber.

http://www.aikenstandard.com/local/1102-Child-with-gun-on-Halloween-was-not-only-one-with-weapon--3548787
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:27 AM
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7. I'm on a slow connection, if I click the wrong link it will freeze my browser..
So I mostly stick to DU and don't click a lot of links, I was just going by what was quoted in the OP.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:32 AM
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9. Totally understandable
Just wanted to make sure to get the rest of the info out there.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:11 AM
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2. It's no longer like taking candy from a baby
What is a 10 year old doing with access to a gun?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:14 AM
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3. If only the woman had been armed...
she could have put one right between the perp's eyes.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:27 AM
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8. Guaranteed there are a few "gun enthusiasts" who believe exactly that.
The dangerous stupidity of America's gun culture knows no bounds.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:50 AM
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17. Stay tuned...
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:38 AM
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11. You bring up a good point.
What if she *had* been armed? Wouldn't that kid pulling a gun on you constitute a lethal threat? Would she not have been justified (depending on state laws) in defending herself with deadly force?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:38 AM
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19. Na, he had the drop on her.
:rolf:

Like I always say, never bring a kitkat to a gun fight! LOL
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:14 AM
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4. Kind of hard to file suit if you are dead. n/t
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:18 AM
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5. Crappy kids caused by crappy parents...
I lived this scenario as a child.

There was literally a gun or 5 in every room of my grandfathers home aside from the actual collection/mini armory.

As a child even the idea of touching any of those weapons never crossed my mind as it would result in my instant and total destruction. It is the fault of the parents and not the grandfather.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:37 AM
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10. So grandpa doesn't has to secure his weapons.
Maybe he should hand some out next Halloween to the delightful little children, no? After all its the parents fault that junior stole a gun.

Did I understand your position?
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:36 PM
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24. Correct...
Grandpa was also at fault for allowing his kids and grandkids in if they weren't going to behave in an appropriate manner. Sort of like inviting in a dog you know isn't housebroken.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:38 AM
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12. There were several things I learned not to touch for fear of instant retribution.
Later on I might have learned WHY I wasn't supposed to touch but at the time i learned that if I did there was going to be pain in my learning center.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:39 AM
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13. Why was she threatening to rob the kids?
Just because she recognized them? Would she threaten to rob complete strangers? Not smart, lady. And I guess we're just supposed to take her word that this was done "jokingly." I wonder how many muggers could get away with the story that they were just joking when they demanded their victims' money?

The woman's stupidity aside, the reporter has some things to answer for here as well. A clip is used to load a magazine, which feeds rounds into a firearm. Get it straight or go back to journalism school, reporters.

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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:45 AM
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14. It was not a robbery threat, but rather a plan for redistribution of said candy
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 06:49 AM by Obamanaut
following seizure by an authority figure.

for clarity: seizure in this case is 'being seized' and not the medical condiition
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 09:41 PM
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27. but aside from that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
:banghead:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:50 AM
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15. You're a good common sense father
We seem to be running short on them lately.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 06:56 AM
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16. I live in that hellhole. BTW. it's not Georgia
This happened next door in South Carolina. But, that's nothing. Fifteen miles to the west in Disgusta....I mean Augusta, GA, they just arrested a 15-year-old girl and a 17-year-old girl. They were plotting to kidnap and kill one of their classmates. There is at least one shooting in the area every week, and this isn't exactly one of the most populated areas in the country. Have I told you lately how much I absolutely positively DESPISE this place? Please. Get me the hell out of here.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:36 AM
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18. "You'll have to pry this candy from my cold dead hands". nt
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:39 AM
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20. I have an idea...
a gun that shoots candy corn!!

I have to make jokes, because society scares the living shit out of me.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:44 AM
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21. I don't blame you a bit, RE the visit to grandparents. I have always worried
about my sons visiting friends' houses for that reason.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:50 AM
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22. So it's okay to have a 10-year-old like this...
...you're okay with him being raised like he is, just as long as he's not using a gun?


You must be, because you don't say one single thing about family, divorce, War on Drugs, violence in society, education, economics, or anything else that had a hand in the creation of this child.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:04 PM
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23. Nobody seems to be going to the link. I didn't write any of this.
It's all from C&L.

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 08:58 PM
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26. You didn't?
That's not what it looks like, although after clicking the link I see that you are correct.

Your use of the italics makes it look like you quoting the story in the middle, with your own comments above and below.

It doesn't help that regular text is consistent with your posted opinions on the subject.


In the future, using the colored blockquote would have alleviated this. Example:

November 02, 2011 07:00 PM

Trick or Treat? 10-Year-Old With Gun Threatens Woman After She Jokes About Taking His Halloween Candy

By Susie Madrak

Still think handgun insurance is a bad idea? Suppose this Georgia woman had been shot. This is exactly the kind of crazy stuff for which actual victims should be able to sue. Some critics have pointed out that you can already file a claim against someone's homeowner's insurance -- but not everyone owns a home. If this handgun owner knew his mandatory insurance premiums would go up dramatically if his grandkids got hold of his gun, he might have been a little more careful. Right, grandpa?

A 10-year-old Aiken trick-or-treater pulled a gun on a woman who said she would take his candy on Halloween.
According to a police incident report, the 28-year-old victim told authorities she recognized some boys from her neighborhood while they were trick-or-treating about 6:30 p.m. Monday near Schroeder and George streets and jokingly told them she would take their candy.

One 10-year-old in the group of about 10 juveniles responded with “no you’re not …” and then pointed a 9 mm handgun at her.
According to Aiken Public Safety Lt. David Turno, the clip was not in the gun at the time, but the boy did have a loaded clip in his possession.
The boy’s brother, also 10, told authorities he also had a gun. The second weapon was recovered Tuesday morning.


I've always been adamant about letting kids wander in a house with guns. My father-in-law kept a loaded handgun in his bedside table, and refused to take the bullets out while we were visiting. That's why my kids were never allowed to stay overnight with their grandparents. (I was "overreacting," my mother-in-law told me. "Better safe than sorry," I told her.)

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/trick-or-treat-10-year-old-gun-threat




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<div class="excerpt">November 02, 2011 07:00 PM
<h3>Trick or Treat? 10-Year-Old With Gun Threatens Woman After She Jokes About Taking His Halloween Candy</h3>By Susie Madrak

Still think handgun insurance is a bad idea? Suppose this Georgia woman had been shot. This is exactly the kind of crazy stuff for which actual victims should be able to sue. Some critics have pointed out that you can already file a claim against someone's homeowner's insurance -- but not everyone owns a home. If this handgun owner knew his mandatory insurance premiums would go up dramatically if his grandkids got hold of his gun, he might have been a little more careful. Right, grandpa?

<div class="excerpt">A 10-year-old Aiken trick-or-treater pulled a gun on a woman who said she would take his candy on Halloween.
According to a police incident report, the 28-year-old victim told authorities she recognized some boys from her neighborhood while they were trick-or-treating about 6:30 p.m. Monday near Schroeder and George streets and jokingly told them she would take their candy.

One 10-year-old in the group of about 10 juveniles responded with “no you’re not …” and then pointed a 9 mm handgun at her.
According to Aiken Public Safety Lt. David Turno, the clip was not in the gun at the time, but the boy did have a loaded clip in his possession.
The boy’s brother, also 10, told authorities he also had a gun. The second weapon was recovered Tuesday morning.</div>

I've always been adamant about letting kids wander in a house with guns. My father-in-law kept a loaded handgun in his bedside table, and refused to take the bullets out while we were visiting. That's why my kids were never allowed to stay overnight with their grandparents. (I was "overreacting," my mother-in-law told me. "Better safe than sorry," I told her.)

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/trick-or-treat-10-year-old-gun-threat</div>





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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 05:50 PM
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25. Your MIL sounds like a real peach...
...as in, fuzz-for-brains.

You should send her every news report of children accidentally shooting one another (it seems to happen pretty frequently).
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