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yellowwood (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 06:59 AM Original message |
"Cornsugar" ads |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. seriously bad stuff... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. So.... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Actually, all those fearmongering claims apply to both sugar and HFCS |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. So...is it true, or not, |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. It is different at exactly one point, which isn't relevant to the problems they are describing |
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Defectata (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. HFCS has been shown to cause increased production |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. You can not make an equivalent dose of glucose. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. But don't HFCS products usually have more sugar than cane sugar products? |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. "Corn sugar" IS hfcs...that's the name they're trying to rebrand it to. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. yep--that's what I meant |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I'm gonna assume you meant "cane sugar", since HFCS is trying to be labeled "corn sugar" |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Beware the youtube-based scientists |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Beware the DU scientists |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. See, the difference is I'm actually pointing out errors in what they said. |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. Insulin resistance is NOT diagnosed via high blood glucose levels. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. You are still confusing fructose with HFCS |
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Defectata (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. insulin is also a growth hormone for fat cells |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Yes, and insulin resistance, aka type 2 diabetes, interferes with that. |
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Defectata (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. tissue damage caused by diabetes |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. "Redox" reactions do not involve free radicals. |
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Defectata (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. you do realize that glucose has a lot of oxygen atoms in it |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. You do realize I already covered that, right? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. How about HFCS just tastes like shit? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Perfectly acceptable reason to avoid it. |
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themadstork (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. This is what kills me |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. They say that because sugar isn't glucose. |
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Defectata (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. HFCS can have up to 95% fructose |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. HFCS can have whatever ratio they'd like. But the stuff used in food... |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. I just don't like the fricken taste of HFCS |
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yawnmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. starch is not glucose. suspect any authority writing ..."starch (glucose)" eom |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. but glucose can be starch |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. I avoid anything corn. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
54. Me, too. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, but I have also noticed this crap being removed from various foods. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. As a scientist, I understand what they are saying, but... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. I hate those ads, too. HFCS is not "plain old" sugar. It's a foodstuff. Cane sugar is a food |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. I avoid HFCS like a plague because of my allergy to it |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
13. HFCS, Cane sugar, sugar, ALL BAD. I think it's funny they think comparing it to sugar helps n/t |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. High-fructose corn syrup |
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Greybnk48 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Excellent. Thanks RC! |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. From what we learned in vet physiology |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. That would matter if sugar and HFCS were composed of different molecules |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. thanks |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. You're not quite understanding how metabolism works. |
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Laluchacontinua (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. The only "compounds" in fruits that "temper the effects (of) fructose" = various kinds of fiber. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. HFCS **ISN'T** cheaper to produce than sugar; it's just massively subsidized by our government. nt |
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Laluchacontinua (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. +1. Not to mention sugar producers' quasi-monopolies. Which also keep prices high. |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. precisely!! |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
21. Manufacturers are lobbying FDA so they can call HFCS 'corn sugar' on food labels. n/t |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
27. Let's put aside the biology to deal with this |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. HFCS actually costs more than sugar |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. It is cheaper than sugar here |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Bread has always had sugar |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Then why has the bread I have been buying for years |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Because it's not required. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. Despicable advertisement. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. Unintended consequences? |
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